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08/15/2003 09:24:43 PM · #1
After a fresh reinstall of windows, and a couple hours of adjusting my monitor, it makes me wonder????

Are we seeing the photograph the way the photographer thinks we are?

As in colors, brightness, contrast---

I am working hard to get back the monitor calibration I had before I reinstalled, after many adjustments, I can see how the photos look very different on the screen..
08/16/2003 04:16:31 AM · #2
Yes, I had a similar problem with this entry for 'Fill The Frame' - apparently very yellow cast:
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=30691

How does this adjusted one look to you?
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=32530

I suppose what it comes down to is to submit pics that have sufficient definition and tonal range that will not degrade too much even if people's monitors vary greatly. For instance these shots looks quite dark and moody to me but would it be too dark and indistinct for others?
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=33459
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=33411
08/16/2003 08:45:10 AM · #3
I have had problems with this. This photo in particular, always tips me off. Can you see this, or is it half black?
red staircase
I should say, can you see the detail of the stairs on the right?

Message edited by author 2003-08-16 08:45:47.
08/16/2003 01:26:43 PM · #4
Yes, I can see the detail on the staircase on the right. The top is quite gloomy and indistinct though, which looks intentional. In general the image looks very muted (the red is quite calm and desturated).
08/16/2003 01:31:35 PM · #5
Originally posted by hortopth:

I have had problems with this. This photo in particular, always tips me off. Can you see this, or is it half black?
red staircase
I should say, can you see the detail of the stairs on the right?


I cannot see much (if any) detail at all. Entire bottom portion of photo is very black. My monitor IS however, calibrated on the greyscale. What is the problem with my monitor if I cannot see the detail in this photo??
08/16/2003 02:43:18 PM · #6
I've had a similarly dismal experience with this one during the last challenge: //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=32300

I noted that two comments I received referred to the 'darkness' of this image. Both original and the submitted versions, really, are far from 'dark'. There 'is' a shadow running up approx. 2/3 of the picture, but even within this area sufficient brightness is retained to ensure the visual data remains uncompromised.

I processed the image on an 2003 eMac with Apple factory calibration, checked it on an Apple G4 Powerbook and a slot-loading iMac, without noticing any deviations.

When I viewed the picture on an older Dell computer owned by the Vancouver Public Library the other day, I could hardly believe my eyes. The image was rendered very dark, the colours were completely off and the detail, particularly in the shadowed lower section, was largely obliterated.
08/16/2003 02:57:01 PM · #7
I initially load my images into a powerbook as well. When I transfer them to my PC, they look awfully dark, so I adjust them a second time.
08/16/2003 03:08:20 PM · #8
I was concerned about the color of my submission this week, so I viewed it on our TV's first. Color looked fine there, so I brought it to the computer.
08/16/2003 04:36:32 PM · #9
Remember that Macs have a gamma setting of 2.2, older PCs usually 1.8. When an image is processed for display on a monitor set to 2.2, it will in fact appear quite dark when displayed on one calibrated to gamma 1.8.
I work on the PC platform, but my monitor is "calibrated" to gamma 2.2. I use quotes, 'cause I don't do a hardware calibration, I calibrate "by eye" using test patterns.
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