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 07/10/2007 08:20:19 AM · #1
I was perusing some portfolios and challenge entries this morning and stumbled upon this strange little occurrence. I noticed it in two portfolios and then checked a bunch of my own challenge entries and found at least two instances. I won't identify images or commenter's, not the purpose of this post. But this is what I found:

During the voting stage, some people commented and left the alleged vote they gave the image. After results are posted, in the comments that were added some people also gave the alleged vote the gave the image. Here is what I noticed: On one image according to the votes received graph, it indicates that there were three votes of ten received. In the comments DURING voting, two people said they gave the image a 10. However, AFTER results in comments on the same image two additional (different) people indicated they also gave the image a 10. If correct, the image should have received at least 5 votes of 10.

On another image in the comments AFTER voting ended, two people indicated they gave the image a 9. However, the vote received graph indicates NO votes of 9 were received.

After reviewing numerous images I noticed a few other discrepancies of the same ilk. So...my question is this: Why do people lie about how they voted on an image in the comments they leave? Especially in the comments AFTER voting has ended? What is the psychology behind this? Do people attempt to ingratiate themselves with someone by indicating they gave a vote higher than they actually did?
 07/10/2007 08:24:15 AM · #2
- They didn't vote > 20% so the vote was thrown away?
- They went back later and changed it :-)?
 07/10/2007 08:27:12 AM · #3
I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. Human nature is what it is.
 07/10/2007 08:27:23 AM · #4
Originally posted by robs:
- They didn't vote > 20% so the vote was thrown away?
- They went back later and changed it :-)?


I was careful in the images I used for info before making this statement. The voting records of the people I based this on indicate they vote consistently 100% or very close to it.

Not losing sleep - just curious what the dynamic at work is.

Message edited by author 2007-07-10 08:28:21.
 07/10/2007 08:29:14 AM · #5
If you don't vote a full 20% the marks you gave get scrubbed at rollover, but the comments stay so you can have discrepancies.

remember 20% in something like the Freestudy was about 112 pictures so if the person voted less than that there votes would have been wiped (but not their comments).

It is possible some people are trying to 'big themselves up' with generous comments but a quick look at their profile page and average score given would give a pointer as to whether they normally scored generously.

I suspect for most people though it's the 20% rule : )
 07/10/2007 08:29:32 AM · #6
Chris, I don't know why people do what they do. Sometimes people make mistakes and sometimes it's malicious. I guess they say they gave a high score thinking the photographer would be more inclined to check the 'helpful' box?

I wondered about the same sort of thing and recently started this thread: What if your score was known

And speaking of robs answer which is also a great possibility, why is it that we only have to vote on 20% of the photos? I think it should be all or nothing.
 07/10/2007 08:30:56 AM · #7
Are you an IRS accountant?
 07/10/2007 08:31:13 AM · #8
Originally posted by CEJ:
Originally posted by robs:
- They didn't vote > 20% so the vote was thrown away?
- They went back later and changed it :-)?


I was careful in the images I used for info before making this statement. The voting records of the people I based this on indicate they vote consistently 100% or very close to it.

Not losing sleep - just curious what the dynamic at work is.


I stopped a long time ago trying to figure out why people vote the way they do let alone why they say they vote one way but actually vote differently.

07/10/2007 08:35:34 AM · #9
Originally posted by cej:
What is the psychology behind this?

you've gotten some plausible explanations on this. in the end, it doesn't really matter. this is no different than worrying about whether the person in front of you or behind you in the express lane has one fewer or one more than the cutoff limit.

Originally posted by Blackbox:
I think [voting] should be all or nothing.

unfortunately, this is impossible for a number of reasons (dialup users and work schedules, to name a few).
07/10/2007 08:40:18 AM · #10
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Are you an IRS accountant?


That's hilarious! Can't votes also get scrubbed even if 20% or more are voted on, based upon the voting pattern? I may be wrong, but I thought I read that before.
 07/10/2007 08:59:39 AM · #11
Originally posted by bdenny:


That's hilarious! Can't votes also get scrubbed even if 20% or more are voted on, based upon the voting pattern? I may be wrong, but I thought I read that before.


Yes, that's true. For example, if you vote all pictures 1s, 2s and 3s, (or 8s, 9s and 10s) all your votes get scrubbed (at least that's what I heard).
 07/10/2007 10:10:53 AM · #12
Originally posted by CEJ:
Do people attempt to ingratiate themselves with someone by indicating they gave a vote higher than they actually did?


Who knows. What I know is that I don't care. The voters and their actions should be considered a force of nature. Sometimes the sun shines, sometimes there is a storm. Just put your raincoat on and stay dry. Currently I have my suntan lotion on and I'm whistling a tune. Thank you voters! I started thinking this way after running into my first "roll-over troll". Some joker voted all the entries on a challenge a '1' right after roll-over, knowing that a certain number of people always hit the update button and watch their scores a bit before hitting the sack. I was a update button junkie back then and was flabbergasted at my score as the only vote that night was from the troll. So to eliminate this problem in the future I disabled the update button. I still get to see the comments on my challenges. Plus Saturday I got flabbergasted again. I won a blue and had no idea!!!!!!!!!!!!
 07/10/2007 10:21:07 AM · #13
Originally posted by CEJ:
What is the psychology behind this? Do people attempt to ingratiate themselves with someone by indicating they gave a vote higher than they actually did?


They absolutely do! In a system where the voting is secret I think MOST people will lie about their scoring... Also, they will vote down most of the photographs to favor their own.
It would be interesting to make voting open, so people will take full responsability of their votes, instead of hiding in anonimity.

Edit for spelling

Message edited by author 2007-07-10 10:47:51.
 07/10/2007 10:24:19 AM · #14
It happened to me once that I wrote a comment and wrote an 8 but then clicked next pic and forgot to give the 8
I only noticed it after the challenge was over and I could see my comment on the pic but no vote.

Or as Elvis Costello said "accidents will happen"
 07/10/2007 10:26:23 AM · #15
Originally posted by Rgarcia:
In a system where the voting is secret I think MOST people will lie about their scoring... Also, they will vote down most of the photographs to favor their own.
It would be interested to make voting open, so people will take full responsability of their votes, instead of hiding in anonimity.


I'm sorry for the dark, lonely world you live in. It must be very difficult getting along when you assume everyone around you is evil and maclicious. I assume most people are good-hearted and fair.
 07/10/2007 10:30:15 AM · #16
Originally posted by CEJ:
Why do people lie about how they voted on an image in the comments they leave? Especially in the comments AFTER voting has ended?

Wishful thinking?

07/10/2007 10:37:45 AM · #17
Don't take it so seriously,
it's ONLY A GAME!
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