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Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

08/14/2003 11:07:06 PM · #2

Originally posted by casualguy:

If they read the rules, they'll vote as if it were legal, then request a DQ if they don't believe it. When it doesn't get DQd, they'll know. *he says, knowing full-well that many don't actually read the rules, despite clicking the check box that says they did*

wewillexplore

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/14/2003 11:12:11 PM · #3

I will be taking this chance as well. Screw it, it's legal. If people can't figure that out, I know what I think of them anyways.

M

ChrisW123

Canon EOS-1000D Rebel XS

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

08/14/2003 11:30:45 PM · #4

Originally posted by casualguy:

the INTERNAL GRAYSCALE setting on my camera...

I've never noticed that setting on the 602, where is it? I may use it also. :)

christyrack

Kodak DC280

08/15/2003 12:34:41 AM · #5

Well said Mavrik!

casualguy

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

08/15/2003 12:47:08 AM · #6

Originally posted by ChrisW123:

Originally posted by casualguy:
the INTERNAL GRAYSCALE setting on my camera...

I've never noticed that setting on the 602, where is it? I may use it also. :)

Switch your camera to SP (scene position)... one of the options is BW (black and white).

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/15/2003 02:03:15 AM · #7

I am sure there will be so many B&W and sepia photos in the "past" challenge that people won't put in a DQ request for all of them. I know for sure that the Sony 707/717 and Olympus C-5050Z both do in-camera B&W and sepia shots. The Fuji S602 does B&W (not sure about sepia), and I guess a whole lot of other cameras also do the same. So I don't think worrying about DQ requests will be a big issue in this challenge.

Actually I would be interested in knowing how many cameras do in-camera B&W and sepia pics.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

08/15/2003 10:39:48 AM · #8

Originally posted by kiwiness:

I know some of the Nikon Coolpix cameras will do B&W, my 995 does it, I am pretty sure the 990 did, not so sure about the others. I agree there are many cameras that will do at least B&W, fewer that do sepia though.

Refracted

Canon EOS-50D

Canon EF 400mm f/5.6L USM

08/15/2003 10:44:46 AM · #9

oddly enough, the f717 only does sepia.. not B&W (unless i'm missing something?) which i found quite odd :)

StevePax

Canon PowerShot S50

08/15/2003 10:54:37 AM · #10

Sony Mavica CD400 does Sepia, B/W, and it also does some weird stuff like Solarize and Negative (color inversion). I've never used those last two - the results don't seem very appealing to me, but the sepia and B/W work great! I'll likely be using one of those as well for this challenge.

scab-lab

Canon EOS-D60

08/15/2003 11:02:01 AM · #11

The Pentax Optio S has a B&W mode along with sepia and a few other in camera colors.

bod

08/15/2003 11:15:23 AM · #12

Canon A40 does B&W and Sepia, and I expect all the others in Canon's 'bottom end' range do too.

e301

08/15/2003 08:01:37 PM · #13

5400 does b&w - and has 4 contrast settings, 3 sharpening settings, and four saturation settings. Clever little beastie.

Ed

ChrisW123

Canon EOS-1000D Rebel XS

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

08/15/2003 10:05:15 PM · #14

Originally posted by casualguy:

Switch your camera to SP (scene position)... one of the options is BW (black and white).

Thanks! I've never noticed the B&W setting because I never use SP at all. When I first bought the camera almost a year ago, I looked at SP and figured that I would never use it since it seems to just make simple adjustments to aprature and shutter speed based on the "scene" you choose, which are obvious to me.

I wonder if there's any quality difference between the B&W built into the camera and doing it from photoshop (but not for this challenge)? Have you done any experimenting at all with this?

jimmythefish

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/16/2003 02:18:51 AM · #15

The F7x7 doesn't have a black and white mode...only sepia.

Originally posted by kiwiness:

justesme

08/16/2003 03:56:18 AM · #16

I have a 602 too and it's also got this "Multi-exposure" thingy. I explored with it in black and white making people appear 'ghost-like". But now I have found a better candidate for this comp [At least I think it is!]

I only have one thing to tell you, read the manual ; ) 602 is a great little beast.

jimmythefish

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/16/2003 04:45:43 AM · #17

Try a simple black and white conversion and then try splitting a full-colour RGB image into the red, green and blue channels. There's really no comparison. The simple conversion produces a flat, low-contrast image whereas the three channels each have very different tonalities and they can be used on their own or swapped into different channels to create unique effects. One of my best shots using just the green colour channel is here:

Steph

Skin tone is vastly improved. Also, my 'Future' shot was done using just the green channel.

The key is that you're using a camera with a fairly clean image. It's one of the reasons I switched from my DSC-S50. The image channels were unusable. You can really tell the difference when a polariser is used when using this method. The images are much moisier.

Originally posted by ChrisW123:

Originally posted by casualguy:
Switch your camera to SP (scene position)... one of the options is BW (black and white).

Thanks! I've never noticed the B&W setting because I never use SP at all. When I first bought the camera almost a year ago, I looked at SP and figured that I would never use it since it seems to just make simple adjustments to aprature and shutter speed based on the "scene" you choose, which are obvious to me.

I wonder if there's any quality difference between the B&W built into the camera and doing it from photoshop (but not for this challenge)? Have you done any experimenting at all with this?

Alexys

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

08/16/2003 09:31:08 AM · #18

Sony DSC-P9 does B/W and Sepia... too!

blemt

Nikon D70

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Nikon

08/16/2003 10:17:26 AM · #19

So just to check- no rotating or cropping are allowed either? Just the resize?

08/16/2003 10:34:46 AM · #20

the dimage does b/w, but also has internal color filters built in so i can do not just sepia, but about 7 different combinations of duotones. fun!

08/16/2003 10:36:04 AM · #21

Originally posted by blemt:

So just to check- no rotating or cropping are allowed either? Just the resize?

i rotated mine. if it gets DQ'd, so be it. some shots you just can't take without rotating your camera.

i don't consider rotating to be post-processing. it's akin to hanging a photo on a wall differently. cropping, however, is post-processing, so be sure to capture only what you want in the frame.

rob

08/16/2003 10:37:40 AM · #22

Originally posted by jimmythefish:

One of my best shots using just the green colour channel is here:

Steph

excellent post! i was just asking someone a question about this the other day. i'm off to try it right now.

thanks!

DennisF

Nikon D100

08/16/2003 10:40:56 AM · #23

blemt and muckpond,

I think rotating the image to take into account holding the camera in portrait versus landscape is in the spirit. I think rotating the image to fix a crooked horizon is not in the spirit.

As someone always says, "I am not a lawyer, ..." so use the advice at your own risk.

Dennis

08/16/2003 10:43:31 AM · #24

good point. i meant to say "i rotated my picture 90 degrees CCW"

i didn't do any adjusting while rotating.

thanks for bringing this up.