what to do when someone wants u DQ'ed...

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

08/12/2003 09:43:37 PM · #27

I may have come across to harsh. My intentions weren't to punish anyone, I may have worded my last line wrong.

Yes it could serve as a warning but also could be informative to members that may forget one of the rules of submission.

I can see how someone could very easy forget one of the rules when getting wrapped up in the excitement of the challenge and thinking about their great shot.

To me it would be interesting to see some of the photos that were DQed and why they were DQed.

Originally posted by BAMartin:

Frequently the DQed photos are the result of an honest mistake. I do not think that punishing the photographer is the appropriate thing to do.
Barbara

Calvus

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/12/2003 11:21:45 PM · #28

Originally posted by Calvus:

I may have come across to harsh. My intentions weren't to punish anyone, I may have worded my last line wrong ....
Calvus

I think we got you meant -- I put out the extreme "punishment" we COULD impose so that it would get rejected right away as ridiculously extreme.

I do get to see some of the DQ images, and I agree with you it can be educational.

Photobug

Sony Mavica CD1000

08/12/2003 11:31:58 PM · #29

I like the idea of examples of DQ'd images. I am a very visual person and I do better when I can SEE what is not acceptable rather then reading what is not acceptable. Perhaps it would be ok to put up DQ'd pictures with the permission of the DQ'd artist? I suppose most people wouldn't be willing to do that though. Just a thought.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/13/2003 12:57:57 AM · #30

Originally posted by Photobug:

...would be ok to put up DQ'd pictures with the permission of the DQ'd artist? I suppose most people wouldn't be willing to do that though...

On the contrary, I'd be ecstatic to have the opportunity to get a little symphathy along the lines of "yeah, that would have been your best entry if you hadn't s#@&%&d it up."

In fact, here's a link to the image in question: Play Ball, NOT!
It was for the games challenge. The DQ was for the accidentally-applied one or two rows of white pixels at the top (verboten under the "no borders or padding" rule in effect at the time, but no longer).

ChrisW123

Canon EOS-1000D Rebel XS

08/13/2003 01:17:52 AM · #31

General, didn't you notice that you added the pixels at the top? In any case, I would not have voted to DQ it because it's an obvious mistake since it takes AWAY from the picture clearly doesn't add anything to it.

Why did you decide to leave the sign in the picture! I know it's because of the title you thought of, but might be better without that sign (and the title). :) Cool shot, I've never been to PacBell Park!

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/13/2003 01:27:39 AM · #32

In Photoshop, if you drag the Crop Tool marquee past the edge of the image, background pixels are added in a similar fashion to enlarging the canvas.

Since I had finished everything else, I never really looked at the final image large enough to see them, or just didn't notice.

I made exactly the same arguments you made, but at the time the rules were that "rules were rules." I'm pretty sure that this (and several similar experiences by others) eventually went a long way towards forcing adoption the current border rules.

The sign was part of the point of the picture. I was there on a completely different purpose (the CPR class being noted on the lighted message board out in center field) and I had about five seconds to stop and compose that shot as we were being marched off the field.

Message edited by author 2003-08-13 01:30:12.

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

08/13/2003 05:17:52 AM · #33

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Photobug:
...would be ok to put up DQ'd pictures with the permission of the DQ'd artist? I suppose most people wouldn't be willing to do that though...

On the contrary, I'd be ecstatic to have the opportunity to get a little symphathy along the lines of "yeah, that would have been your best entry if you hadn't s#@&%&d it up."

I still havent beaten the score I got on my DQd photo, over a year later :P

Photobug

Sony Mavica CD1000

08/13/2003 08:43:50 AM · #34

Originally posted by GeneralE:

On the contrary, I'd be ecstatic to have the opportunity to get a little symphathy along the lines of "yeah, that would have been your best entry if you hadn't s#@&%&d it up."

OOh - Nice pic! Too bad about the border on the top. And thank you for sharing a pic that was DQ'd. When I first started I thought that if you had a picture DQ'd were kicked out of the community! Glad I was wrong on that one. :D

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Fujifilm FinePix E510 Zoom

08/13/2003 09:19:25 AM · #35

I'm glad you were wrong too! :)
Most DQs are from honest mistakes.

Here is my DQd photo (touched up a little for print). My mistake was adding noise in photoshop, which I thought was legal, but it wasn't. (It is legal now though)

Portchester Castle

Message edited by author 2003-08-13 09:20:31.

Gracechild7

08/13/2003 01:35:46 PM · #36

I got a DQ request for my blue image, but nothing ever came of it. I'm guessing it was because of the black pixels at the bottom (borders were not legal). But I explained to the council that the black line is a "feature" that my camera adds to every image (which I never noticed before I started at DPC). I knew about it, and could have cropped it out, but I was desperately trying to maintain whatever integrity I could in my photos and not mess with them too much (or in this case, at all) in photoshop. I guess they were nice enough not to DQ me, since that is the actual photo.

maxpower

Canon EOS-10D

08/13/2003 01:41:07 PM · #37

well it appears that they accepted my expalnation about how i didnt have my original... this restored my faith a little... :-)

HBunch

HP PhotoSmart 315

08/13/2003 01:45:15 PM · #38

Originally posted by Gracechild7:

Grace, I'm not seeing a DQ request on your image in the blue challenge. I do however remember it being there, but not for the border, it was because someone thought that it looked like it had an illegal filter applied. The texture looks a bit like a paint filter, and I think that is what the request was for.

RHoldenSr

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

08/13/2003 01:46:44 PM · #39

This is very educational!

Thanks to all of you that are sharing your DQed photos, I never thought it would be so easy to get a DQ, even with a great shot.

Calvus

christyrack

Kodak DC280

08/13/2003 02:00:14 PM · #40

I had one of my photos recommended for DQ (a challenge that's still running) and I still have no idea why. It ended up not getting DQed, but it sure would have helped to know WHY it was challenged. I know how you feel though, Maxpower, I was really mad when I got a request to submit my original photo...and hurt. But, I wrote an email ranting about it because I felt that I was unfairly challenged...BUT....every member on here has a right to challenge a photo....and I respect that! :)

Gracechild7

Fujifilm FinePix E510 Zoom

08/13/2003 02:01:37 PM · #41

Originally posted by hbunch7187:

Oh how odd! I always wondered what the request was for! Thanks!

maxpower

Canon EOS-10D

08/13/2003 02:06:12 PM · #42

yea it does look like a filter... i think maybe you oversharpened the picture...

Gracechild7

Fujifilm FinePix E510 Zoom

08/13/2003 02:16:30 PM · #43

Originally posted by maxpower:

yea it does look like a filter... i think maybe you oversharpened the picture...

Nope. I didn't touch that photo. It came straight from the camera like that. Which is prolly a bad thing.

willem

Sony Alpha a6700

Sony E 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS

08/13/2003 02:38:34 PM · #44

I got a DQ request for my winning image in the round challenge and of course I asked for the reason why. I was told it was related to the date of the picture, someone suspected that it was not taken in the challenge period. I was able to produce the original, so no problem.

I was disappointed that the request was only date related. I would have been really flattered if it had been because someone had thought it was not possible to produce such an image straight out of camera. A to-good-to-be-true suspicion would have been flattering.

Anyway, I think the DQ system is fine, it ensures images are achieved through photography, not through PS manipulation. And as part of that you have to accept that you might have to produce the original to prove that the DQ request is unjustified.

heida

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/13/2003 02:45:13 PM · #45

Originally posted by Konador:

Very powerfull picture! I see your highest vote is 7.2 So IÂ´m very curious to know how much this was scoring???

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

08/13/2003 02:53:39 PM · #46

I can't quite remember the score, but it held 1st place on the front page for a couple of days :P

Message edited by author 2003-08-13 14:54:03.

heida

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/13/2003 02:57:27 PM · #47

bummer :/