Chris Benoit and family found dead

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06/26/2007 01:56:32 PM · #26

Originally posted by CalliopeKel:

Actually isn't it Wrestler? Not Wrassler?

southerners say it like that. (thought you would have heard that in the vol state)

I helped him a few times when i worked at best buy and he seemed nice. Makes you wonder what makes a person do smoething like that. If he took roids I could see that as a possibliity. I haven't known anyone in years take steroids but they used to just fly off the handle all the time. I am curious to know what the "curious text messages" were. I sure hope he didn't do it because I think that will m ake it worse for his surviving children.

littlegett

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06/26/2007 01:57:49 PM · #27

Originally posted by Melethia:

I gotta wonder why you'd do a tribute to a guy who just killed his family. Strikes me as a bit tasteless. Perhaps at the time they didn't know that part.

They did the Tribute before the 'speculation' was leaked out. But, from what I heard, since the 'speculation' WWE has since pulled all Benoit merchandise and is in attempt to purge the name from all released merch.

But, really what can you believe on the net?

Originally posted by Kenskid:

Who said anything about a tribute? Did I miss a previous post?

It was stated in the article, WWE canceled Monday Night Raw, to play a 3 Hour Tribute to Benoit. I caught the middle hour by pure accident, havn't watched wrestling in years. But, the Tribute itself, was mostly fellow 'WRESTLERS' talking about him.

On a personal note, I liked the guy as a wrestler. He was a great performer and fun to watch. Whatever he did with his personal life, is not my place to judge. Whatever happened it is a sad event.

vxpra

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06/26/2007 02:40:12 PM · #28

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by CalliopeKel:
Actually isn't it Wrestler? Not Wrassler?

southerners say it like that. (thought you would have heard that in the vol state)

I helped him a few times when i worked at best buy and he seemed nice. Makes you wonder what makes a person do smoething like that. If he took roids I could see that as a possibliity. I haven't known anyone in years take steroids but they used to just fly off the handle all the time. I am curious to know what the "curious text messages" were. I sure hope he didn't do it because I think that will m ake it worse for his surviving children.

My junior high gym teacher had been a college wrestler (greco-roman) he always referred to the guys on tv's as "wrasslers" and his fellow greco-roman guys as wrestlers. He used to say (and probably still does) "its wrassling when you know the outcome, and wrestling when you don't.".

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06/26/2007 02:44:31 PM · #29

Originally posted by vxpra:

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by CalliopeKel:
Actually isn't it Wrestler? Not Wrassler?

southerners say it like that. (thought you would have heard that in the vol state)

I helped him a few times when i worked at best buy and he seemed nice. Makes you wonder what makes a person do smoething like that. If he took roids I could see that as a possibliity. I haven't known anyone in years take steroids but they used to just fly off the handle all the time. I am curious to know what the "curious text messages" were. I sure hope he didn't do it because I think that will m ake it worse for his surviving children.

My junior high gym teacher had been a college wrestler (greco-roman) he always referred to the guys on tv's as "wrasslers" and his fellow greco-roman guys as wrestlers. He used to say (and probably still does) "its wrassling when you know the outcome, and wrestling when you don't.".

Yea, the stuff you do in an "academic" setting with tights and head gear and a mat, is wrestling. With a costume, props, and scripts, it is wrassling.

piaffe529

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06/26/2007 02:47:52 PM · #30

In these here part of the stix, it's called "wrasslin". There is no "g". Since I'm a Yankee transplant, I call it wrestling and just grin when I hear it said the other way.

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06/26/2007 02:59:58 PM · #31

its really really sad..... weird also kind of hard to believe. Its a shame that his family also, I heard that their are I think two of his children still alive.

My little brother told me the timing happens right when Vince Mcmahon (did I spell that right) was faking his death in the whole crappy/acting story lines their are in the WWE and then this happens.

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06/26/2007 03:08:31 PM · #32

Originally posted by littlegett:

Originally posted by Melethia:
I gotta wonder why you'd do a tribute to a guy who just killed his family. Strikes me as a bit tasteless. Perhaps at the time they didn't know that part.

They did the Tribute before the 'speculation' was leaked out. But, from what I heard, since the 'speculation' WWE has since pulled all Benoit merchandise and is in attempt to purge the name from all released merch.

But, really what can you believe on the net?

The WWE website has pulled his merchandise from the store. Though the WWE auction site still has stuff on there.

But, what we don't know...and eventually may or even may not know is WHY he did what he did. I'm not a habitual watcher of Monday Night RAW, but do watch bits and pieces. He was supposed to wrestle in the next big PPV event but requested to not to wrestle due to 'personal problems'.

citymars

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06/26/2007 03:39:18 PM · #33

Originally posted by littlegett:

Whatever he did with his personal life, is not my place to judge.

I'm sure you didn't mean it like that, but I thought "No, please feel free to judge him for murdering his wife and son."

Btw, I was once on the receiving end of 'roid road rage. Scary schit.

digitalpins

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06/26/2007 03:46:25 PM · #34

read this...

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06/26/2007 04:55:39 PM · #35

I cant stand hearing about these murder/suicides... Its one thing if your gunna kill yourself, but dont be such a coward as to take people down with you. Its like last week, my dad had to go to a call where a man had recently separated from his wife so he got in his car, and drove headlong into a truck on the freeway going 150km/h killing himself, and sending the van into the river killing the driver. They found a suicide note at his house later explaining all this and his plan to drive into someone. Bloody Cowards, makes me sick...

Tez

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06/27/2007 02:48:18 AM · #36

Whoa I think that's a little unfair. See it from their angle: the only cowardice is not doing it sooner. You'll probably find that most suicides happen as a result of the person feeling like they're letting everyone else down, a burden to their family/friends or whatever and they would be better off if they themselves were dead.

It takes more balls than I have to kill yourself I think, and for some poeple it is the only way they see to attain peace.

As for Benoit, we know nothing of the conversations he had with his family beforehand, what if it was a pact? As far fetched as that is, and not an opinion I subscribe to, it is still a viable option so until we get the information we won't know. So please don't call people out as cowards when their personal situation isn't taken into account. The story you mentioned is harsh, no doubt about it, but i think that comes down to a vindictive and very very bitter individual with a crazy streak, not a coward.

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06/27/2007 03:00:42 AM · #37

Originally posted by Tez:

I believe the main reference was to the fact that he took an innocent life with him.

Originally posted by Tez:

It takes more balls than I have to kill yourself I think, and for some poeple it is the only way they see to attain peace.

Hogwash. Maybe desparation, but not balls. And it is my belief that in their quest to attain this ultimate peace, they may be in for a very rude awakening - especially if they've taken innocent souls with them.

Originally posted by Tez:

As for Benoit, we know nothing of the conversations he had with his family beforehand, what if it was a pact? As far fetched as that is, and not an opinion I subscribe to, it is still a viable option so until we get the information we won't know.

You may be right. I remember back when my son was seven years old and all he wanted to do was enter a suicide pact with me & the ol' lady. I always felt bad for disappointing him.

My guess from day one was roid rage - not a bold prediction. Sure, let's wait til the investigation is over before we hang the poor guy. ...oh, wait... :/

Elvis_L

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06/27/2007 12:35:21 PM · #38

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Tez:
Whoa I think that's a little unfair. See it from their angle: the only cowardice is not doing it sooner. You'll probably find that most suicides happen as a result of the person feeling like they're letting everyone else down, a burden to their family/friends or whatever and they would be better off if they themselves were dead.

I believe the main reference was to the fact that he took an innocent life with him.

Originally posted by Tez:
It takes more balls than I have to kill yourself I think, and for some poeple it is the only way they see to attain peace.

Hogwash. Maybe desparation, but not balls. And it is my belief that in their quest to attain this ultimate peace, they may be in for a very rude awakening - especially if they've taken innocent souls with them.

Originally posted by Tez:
As for Benoit, we know nothing of the conversations he had with his family beforehand, what if it was a pact? As far fetched as that is, and not an opinion I subscribe to, it is still a viable option so until we get the information we won't know.

You may be right. I remember back when my son was seven years old and all he wanted to do was enter a suicide pact with me & the ol' lady. I always felt bad for disappointing him.

My guess from day one was roid rage - not a bold prediction. Sure, let's wait til the investigation is over before we hang the poor guy. ...oh, wait... :/

yep yep and yep

kenskid

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06/27/2007 01:30:01 PM · #39

I think in most states it is illegal for a 7 year old to enter a death pact.

Originally posted by Tez:

06/27/2007 01:55:30 PM · #40

Originally posted by Tez:

No i mean cowardness as far as killing his son and wife as well. What he does to himself is his own buisness. The way i said it may have made it come out wrong, but i ment about his son and wife.

06/27/2007 02:00:24 PM · #41

Originally posted by kenskid:

I think in most states it is illegal for a 7 year old to enter a death pact.

Originally posted by Tez:
Whoa I think that's a little unfair. See it from their angle: the only cowardice is not doing it sooner. You'll probably find that most suicides happen as a result of the person feeling like they're letting everyone else down, a burden to their family/friends or whatever and they would be better off if they themselves were dead.

It takes more balls than I have to kill yourself I think, and for some poeple it is the only way they see to attain peace.

As for Benoit, we know nothing of the conversations he had with his family beforehand, what if it was a pact? As far fetched as that is, and not an opinion I subscribe to, it is still a viable option so until we get the information we won't know. So please don't call people out as cowards when their personal situation isn't taken into account. The story you mentioned is harsh, no doubt about it, but i think that comes down to a vindictive and very very bitter individual with a crazy streak, not a coward.

it isn't in canada :) Infact its encouraged, its one of the courses offered in Preschool, given its not very popular, but they had to offer it you know... to be fair to everyone.

RayEthier

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06/27/2007 03:33:35 PM · #42

Originally posted by kawana:

...it isn't in canada :) Infact its encouraged, its one of the courses offered in Preschool, given its not very popular, but they had to offer it you know... to be fair to everyone.

I am intrigued by this post. What is it exactly that is offered as a course in Preschool in Canada?

Ray

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06/27/2007 05:46:26 PM · #43

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by kawana:
...it isn't in canada :) Infact its encouraged, its one of the courses offered in Preschool, given its not very popular, but they had to offer it you know... to be fair to everyone.

I am intrigued by this post. What is it exactly that is offered as a course in Preschool in Canada?

Ray

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Napping
Advanced Napping
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123's
Suicide pacts

and whatever else preschoolers do, i dont remember that far back :)

Message edited by author 2007-06-27 19:32:43.

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06/27/2007 06:21:25 PM · #44

Originally posted by kawana:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by kawana:
...it isn't in canada :) Infact its encouraged, its one of the courses offered in Preschool, given its not very popular, but they had to offer it you know... to be fair to everyone.

I am intrigued by this post. What is it exactly that is offered as a course in Preschool in Canada?

Ray

Eating 101
Napping
Advanced Napping
ABC's
123's
Suicide packs

and whatever else preschoolers do, i dont remember that far back :)

I think I read somewhere that they combined Advanced Napping with Suicide Pacts (not "packs" - those are what you can buy on www.doctorkavorkian.com) and they are calling it "Extreme Napping"