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06/21/2007 10:06:06 AM · #1
I have been affected in my life by hit and run, and this disgusted me

hit and run
06/21/2007 10:11:41 AM · #2
What disgusts you? The fact that there was a vehicle/pedestrian accident, or the fact that an angry mob beat and killed the passenger of the vehicle? (technically, I don't think it was a 'hit and run'...)

Personally, the entire situation disgusts me. But it's more saddening than anything.


Message edited by author 2007-06-21 10:12:54.
06/21/2007 10:12:09 AM · #3
After this, if I lived in that neighborhood and hit someone, I would not stop. I'd drive away and call the police.
06/21/2007 10:13:30 AM · #4
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Message edited by author 2007-06-21 10:14:02.
06/21/2007 10:15:38 AM · #5
sorry should have been more clear. I meant that if the guy had just run away and not helped the girl he would have been OK.

It almost tells you to do a hit and run rather than do the right thing

Message edited by author 2007-06-21 10:15:55.
06/21/2007 10:20:37 AM · #6
Oh...than I agree with you totally. I was kinda confused as to what you were getting at.
06/21/2007 10:48:31 AM · #7
this is crazy.
06/21/2007 11:15:02 AM · #8
Originally posted by kolasi:

I have been affected in my life by hit and run, and this disgusted me

hit and run


What disgusts me is that the racist/zenaphobe component in this particular incident is being ignored by the media.
06/21/2007 11:15:53 AM · #9
Originally posted by kolasi:

sorry should have been more clear. I meant that if the guy had just run away and not helped the girl he would have been OK.



The truly sad thing is that the girl is fine. Minor injuries.
06/21/2007 11:17:34 AM · #10
Originally posted by kolasi:

sorry should have been more clear. I meant that if the guy had just run away and not helped the girl he would have been OK.

It almost tells you to do a hit and run rather than do the right thing


It wasnt the driver that was murdered
The passenger died, the drive ran away.
06/21/2007 11:20:42 AM · #11
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by kolasi:

I have been affected in my life by hit and run, and this disgusted me

hit and run


What disgusts me is that the racist/zenaphobe component in this particular incident is being ignored by the media.


maybe i'm missing it but where in the hell does race come into anything?
06/21/2007 11:54:49 AM · #12
Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by kolasi:

I have been affected in my life by hit and run, and this disgusted me

hit and run


What disgusts me is that the racist/zenaphobe component in this particular incident is being ignored by the media.


maybe i'm missing it but where in the hell does race come into anything?


You're missing it.
06/21/2007 11:56:40 AM · #13
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by kolasi:

I have been affected in my life by hit and run, and this disgusted me

hit and run


What disgusts me is that the racist/zenaphobe component in this particular incident is being ignored by the media.


maybe i'm missing it but where in the hell does race come into anything?


You're missing it.


care to enlighten me? or are you jsut making it up in your mind?
06/21/2007 12:02:57 PM · #14
If you consider the nature of the festival, and the name of the man killed, you might reach another conclusion about why the crowd went to such extremes.
06/21/2007 12:07:22 PM · #15
Originally posted by wavelength:

If you consider the nature of the festival, and the name of the man killed, you might reach another conclusion about why the crowd went to such extremes.


what is the nature of the festival? and because the guys last name is spanish that tells you nothing. Hell he could be adopted and be white.

Wait a minute! the celebration is aobut slavery, so many blacks were there? assuming they attacked someone becasue of race because they are black is racist as far as i am concerned.

Message edited by author 2007-06-21 12:12:34.
06/21/2007 12:10:34 PM · #16
Juneteenth Day seems to have a habit of turning in to a rumble at the end of the day, Last year in Milwaukee the day ended in a huge riot. This year they increased security and still ended up with a huge fight at the end of the day with riot gear etc.
06/21/2007 12:10:43 PM · #17
nevermind

Message edited by author 2007-06-21 12:16:47.
06/21/2007 12:11:05 PM · #18
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

It wasnt the driver that was murdered
The passenger died, the drive ran away.


No, the driver "escaped the crowd" according to the news story. What do you think would have happened if he hadn't?

If anyone doesn't understand this or believe about the tensions between the black and hispanic communities, then you need to research it. Actually, all you have to do is watch Freedom Writers. True story. Also a sad/happy, amazing, and eye opening story.
06/21/2007 12:13:06 PM · #19
Originally posted by jaded_youth:

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by wavelength:

If you consider the nature of the festival, and the name of the man killed, you might reach another conclusion about why the crowd went to such extremes.


what is the nature of the festival? and because the guys last name is spanish that tells you nothing. Hell he could be adopted and be white.


DudE! don't bring my dad into an impending racial argument. yikes!


i edited my post so edit yours
06/21/2007 12:13:28 PM · #20
Originally posted by wavelength:

Actually, all you have to do is watch Freedom Writers. True story. Also a sad/happy, amazing, and eye opening story.


great movie!

just because of some tensions doesn't mean that all people feel that way. assuming without actuall facts makes things worse. So if a Jewish person gets attacked by a Greman we will assume it is becasue some Germans in the past killed Jews?

Message edited by author 2007-06-21 12:15:33.
06/21/2007 12:16:15 PM · #21
I asked myself why this might happen other than hatred. There is a psychological trait in many people: When they see a child get hurt, they can get very angry. People can also get angry when being pushed around in a large croud. Synergize these 2 things and perhaps this seems possible. I don't have a point here, it's just my small brain trying to explain how this could happen.
06/21/2007 12:17:23 PM · #22
Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by wavelength:

If you consider the nature of the festival, and the name of the man killed, you might reach another conclusion about why the crowd went to such extremes.


what is the nature of the festival? and because the guys last name is spanish that tells you nothing. My wife's dad is mexican and his name is turner. Hell he could be adopted and be white.

Wait a minute! the celebration is aobut slavery, so many blacks were there? assuming they attacked someone becasue of race because they are black is racist as far as i am concerned.


recognizing that racial tensions exist is not racism in itself Elvis, and I'm suprised you think so little of me. I have friends of every color. I currently have a hispanic lady down on her luck that is staying with us, and I have had a white girl with her black boyfriend stay with us in the past. You being blind does not make me a racist. It just means you don't want to see what is right in front of you.

Having the opportunity to be around so many groups that intimately has also shown me that the tensions still exist, even when you invite someone into your home. People can't let it go yet. We crackers want to pretend it's the new millenium and it's all over, but it's not.
06/21/2007 12:18:43 PM · #23
Originally posted by metatate:

I asked myself why this might happen other than hatred. There is a psychological trait in many people: When they see a child get hurt, they can get very angry. People can also get angry when being pushed around in a large croud. Synergize these 2 things and perhaps this seems possible. I don't have a point here, it's just my small brain trying to explain how this could happen.


exactly this is not the first or even second time this same thing has happend in the US becasue people get upset and have mob mentality.

saying they did it becasue the victom was spanish just will make tensions even worse.
06/21/2007 12:20:37 PM · #24
Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by wavelength:

If you consider the nature of the festival, and the name of the man killed, you might reach another conclusion about why the crowd went to such extremes.


what is the nature of the festival? and because the guys last name is spanish that tells you nothing. My wife's dad is mexican and his name is turner. Hell he could be adopted and be white.

Wait a minute! the celebration is aobut slavery, so many blacks were there? assuming they attacked someone becasue of race because they are black is racist as far as i am concerned.


recognizing that racial tensions exist is not racism in itself Elvis, and I'm suprised you think so little of me. I have friends of every color. I currently have a hispanic lady down on her luck that is staying with us, and I have had a white girl with her black boyfriend stay with us in the past. You being blind does not make me a racist. It just means you don't want to see what is right in front of you.

Having the opportunity to be around so many groups that intimately has also shown me that the tensions still exist, even when you invite someone into your home. People can't let it go yet. We crackers want to pretend it's the new millenium and it's all over, but it's not.


that last part wasn't directed at you in particular but assuming everything is about race makes it worse IMO.
06/21/2007 12:25:48 PM · #25
What would the outcome have been if the guys in the car where also black? Would there still have been a fatal beating ? Not trying to profile anyone here. Just asking if you think the end result would have been the same. Personally I do not.

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