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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/19/2007 12:07:36 PM · #26

Yea...I guess. I've shot a gun only a hand full of times. I would never clean a gun inside my home though.

JawnyRico

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/19/2007 12:17:41 PM · #27

I have lots of guns and have never had this problem when cleaning. But then again I have good eyes and take the time to empty the chamber or clip. Roughly 2 minutes. The problem I have heard with some is that they leave it in the holding chamber thinking its ok and while cleaning it and rotating it, it works its way into the loaded chamber and then they some how fire it. Its very rare. But I bet if you held him down to the ground with a toothpic to his throat he would tell you he just didn't want to unload the gun fully to save himself 2 minutes.

xantangummi

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 135mm f/2.0L USM

06/19/2007 12:41:08 PM · #28

I have handeld alot of different rifles and a couple of other weapons and I've only witnessed one accidental discharge, when one of my subordinates forgot to takes the magazine out of his weapon before emtying the chamber.

usually you

1) make the weapon safe and point it in a safe direction.
2) removem the magazine (which he forgot.
3) clear the chamber.
4) fire in a safe direction to slacken the mechanism.
5) insert the magazine to keep dirt from enetering.

anyways he had forgotten to remove his magazine so when he fired it went bang and the bullet zipped by 30cm from my head (safe directon, eh!), since it was a tracer I assumed it was one of the three last in his clip.

It gave both me and him quite a scare, it was just like time had frozen or something and we just stood there staring at each other for a minute or two.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

06/19/2007 12:49:28 PM · #29

Originally posted by LanceW:

Check your lease. I'd be shocked if it DID NOT have a clause in it prohibiting all firearms there.

That sounds like a violation of somebody's Constitutional Rights to bear arms. I've lived in a lot of apartments in my life and I've never signed a lease agreement that said anything about having firearms. Who are they anyway to tell you don't have the right to protect yourself and your family in your own home? They might as well hang a sign on their office door that that says " Feel free to sue us for Rights violations because we're guilty of it."

RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

06/19/2007 12:50:21 PM · #30

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Originally posted by LanceW:
Check your lease. I'd be shocked if it DID NOT have a clause in it prohibiting all firearms there.

That sounds like a violation of somebody's Constitutional Rights to bear arms. I've lived in a lot of apartments in my life and I've never signed a lease agreement that said anything about having firearms. Who are they anyway to tell you don't have the right to protect yourself and your family in your own home? They might as well hang a sign on their office door that that says " Feel free to sue us for Rights violations because we're guilty of it."

Well you cant bear arms on school grounds even with a carry permit can we sue them? Didnt think so lol.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 12:50:48.

LanceW

Nikon Z9

Nikon AF Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D

06/19/2007 12:52:43 PM · #31

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Sorry dude, but it's a privately owned property. They can put what ever they want in a lease. I personally am glad it's in my lease here in Maryland as I wouldn't want some jackass with a gun living below, above or besides me.

Edit to add that they can put almost anything in a lease. ;-)

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 12:57:05.

RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

06/19/2007 12:54:10 PM · #32

Lance however where i live they probly have one anyways lol. Last time the power went out some kid got shot.

JawnyRico

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/19/2007 12:56:00 PM · #33

And thats probably about the time I would throw that dude against the wall, and his balls would meet my knee....

Originally posted by xantangummi:

it was just like time had frozen or something and we just stood there staring at each other for a minute or two.

vtruan

Nikon D5100

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Nikon

06/19/2007 01:06:01 PM · #34

Originally posted by LanceW:

[quote=NstiG8tr] I personally am glad it's in my lease here in Maryland as I wouldn't want some jackass with a gun living below, above or besides me.

Are you 100% sure there isn't a jack with a gun in your building?, legal or illegal. I'd be really surprised if there wasn't one.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 13:06:45.

drewbixcube

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

06/19/2007 01:06:45 PM · #35

Originally posted by scalvert:

This makes your DPL card a touch ironic, no?

I was thinking the same thing.

drewbixcube

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

06/19/2007 01:08:33 PM · #36

Originally posted by vtruan:

Are you 100% sure there isn't a jack with a gun in your building?, legal or illegal. I'd be really surprised if there wasn't one.

Yeah, I kept my shotgun (for hunting) under my bed in my apartments in college (not the dorms) against their "No Firearms" policy.

LanceW

Nikon Z9

Nikon AF Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D

06/19/2007 01:19:26 PM · #37

Originally posted by vtruan:

Are you 100% sure there isn't a jack with a gun in your building?, legal or illegal. I'd be really surprised if there wasn't one.

Of course not, but if I had the same experience as DefyTime here, they would be gone at least!

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

06/19/2007 01:34:31 PM · #38

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Well you cant bear arms on school grounds even with a carry permit can we sue them? Didnt think so lol.

I don't know of any people that list their residence as "school grounds." I have the right to protect my residence and my family by any means I deem necessary. The law affords me this right. The same way it affords me right to point blank shoot unauthorized individuals in my residence that may be there to cause myself or my family harm. Common sense should accompany gun ownership and judging by the statement you made, you must have very little. Most people know where they can and can't do stuff. You can't drive on the sidewalk either just because you have a license and most people know this. It's a common sense thing.
Personally, I wouldn't live somewhere that limited my ability to protect myself or violated my Constitutional Rights much less pay them to do so. But that's just me and my opinion on the subject.

FireBird

06/19/2007 02:20:49 PM · #39

If it were actually an "assault" rifle the owner should be brought up on federal gun charges. Assault rifles by definition must be capable of selective fire. In other words must be capable of full automatic fire. This is illegal in most states and requires special permits in those where it is legal. If not really an assault rifle then I suspect that the city of Dallas has regulations regarding the discharging of firearms within the city limits. You should contact the police and inquire about this and ask why charges were not pressed. You should request a copy of the police report so you can show it to your landlord.

RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

06/19/2007 02:23:59 PM · #40

Originally posted by fir3bird:

In maryland you can aquire permits for antiques and some current guns. Alot of people I know keep old russian auto's such as the SKS which only holds 6 rounds anyways. Not sure if it goes full auto but it is semi if not full.

The AR-15 which can also be bought from the base surplus here do single, 3 shot and full i believe.

Ive fired both of these rifles at the range cant quite remember the specs. But i do know you can get a permit for them.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/19/2007 02:28:33 PM · #41

Originally posted by fir3bird:

I suspect that the city of Dallas has regulations regarding the discharging of firearms within the city limits. You should contact the police and inquire about this and ask why charges were not pressed.

If it was considered an accident then there wouldn't have been any charges pressed.

FireBird

06/19/2007 02:33:39 PM · #42

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Yup, some states allow this and I'd suspect Texas might allow it. Here in NC only certain business owners have any chance of getting a full auto weapon permitted. Say a banker, or jewelery store owner.
I've been to a place in Ga. where you can rent and fire full auto stuff. Fun. And expensive!!!

FireBird

06/19/2007 02:41:39 PM · #43

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

If it was considered an accident then there wouldn't have been any charges pressed.

I'd like to see that changed if that is the case. A nice misdemeanor charge with a 250 buck fine would help memory next time. Unload first.
Drunk driving was passed of as accidental for decades.

candlerain

Canon EOS-30D

06/19/2007 02:44:08 PM · #44

Unreal. All I can say about this incident is "Welcome to Texas". That's what happens when you let people roam around with guns...

Ubersteiny

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM for Canon

06/19/2007 03:01:24 PM · #45

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Well you cant bear arms on school grounds even with a carry permit can we sue them? Didnt think so lol.

I don't know of any people that list their residence as "school grounds." I have the right to protect my residence and my family by any means I deem necessary. The law affords me this right. The same way it affords me right to point blank shoot unauthorized individuals in my residence that may be there to cause myself or my family harm. Common sense should accompany gun ownership and judging by the statement you made, you must have very little. Most people know where they can and can't do stuff. You can't drive on the sidewalk either just because you have a license and most people know this. It's a common sense thing.
Personally, I wouldn't live somewhere that limited my ability to protect myself or violated my Constitutional Rights much less pay them to do so. But that's just me and my opinion on the subject.

I disagree that "common sense should accompany gun ownership" why should everyone own a gun? you have the right to protect yourself but if you sign a lease agreeing that you won't keep firearms in the house then breaking that goes against your agreement, regardless if its your "right" or not you signed it agreeing.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/19/2007 03:27:51 PM · #46

Originally posted by noisemaker:

Like I said: Personally, I wouldn't live somewhere that limited my ability to protect myself or violated my Constitutional Rights much less pay them to do so.
Everyone shouldn't own a gun. Demonstarted common sense should be the minimum requirement for owning a firearm of any type. I also think everyone wanting to own a firearm should be required to take a gun safety course regardless of what year you were born in or how well you think you can handle a gun.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 15:34:52.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

06/19/2007 03:36:27 PM · #47

I realize gun control is the topic and all, but Clint, when's the air guitar thing? Is it tomorrow??

DefyTime