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06/01/2007 07:42:23 PM · #76 |
"loser"
this hurt me a lot...especially cuz it was a self portrait |
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06/01/2007 07:49:22 PM · #77 |
I would appreciate any one's time posting a comment under any of my pictures, unless I spend more time trying to figure out what the heck did he/she mean!!
The strangest comment I got on a picture that got nominated in another site was: !
Thats it.
only a !
I spent more time than it took him typing it trying to figure out what did he mean lol
Whatever,
Cheers all, |
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06/01/2007 10:09:21 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by L2:
This is exactly the kind of thread that makes others not want to comment at all. |
On the other hand people making comments flippantly about what the photographer should do might make some people not want to enter at all. I love getting a sense of how people react..love it or hate, but really don't like comments where people tell me "you should..". I happen to have pretty thick skin, and a fairly thick skull, but sometimes I wish people would just react to the shot, rather than telling me how to get a better score.
And yes I do get your point, and don't have a problem with it..I simply don't entirely agree. |
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06/01/2007 10:12:52 PM · #79 |
That is awful!!!!!!!
Originally posted by cassilda_terry:
"loser"
this hurt me a lot...especially cuz it was a self portrait |
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06/01/2007 10:14:09 PM · #80 |
What could you have possibly said? Well I guess if you told me they may remove it again..hehe
Originally posted by JawnyRico:
HEY!!! The SC removed my comment. I didn't think I said anything wrong. And they didn't send me an e-mail saying I was naughty either....Hmmmm... They must not like Ohioans....lol....carry on upset DPCers... |
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06/01/2007 10:23:33 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by bucket:
Originally posted by L2:
This is exactly the kind of thread that makes others not want to comment at all. |
On the other hand people making comments flippantly about what the photographer should do might make some people not want to enter at all. I love getting a sense of how people react..love it or hate, but really don't like comments where people tell me "you should..". I happen to have pretty thick skin, and a fairly thick skull, but sometimes I wish people would just react to the shot, rather than telling me how to get a better score.
And yes I do get your point, and don't have a problem with it..I simply don't entirely agree. |
Any time you get a comment it's a reaction. If someone is hung up on technicals or something else you find trival that should tell you the photo registered little impact with that voter as a whole. |
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06/01/2007 10:30:10 PM · #82 |
The experience & technical knowledge of the folks on this site differ. It is highly doubtful every single comment you get will be "technical" b/c there is such a diverse crowd here. I think when people give you another idea or a possible way to improve the photo, it is a great thing. They don't really know what that photo will look like the way they suggest unless they do it. It is just a suggestion. One photo can look great a couple of ways. If your photo is blurry & you submit it - you can expect to get 10 comments stating "your photo is blurry" .. If you want to learn to do something, utilize the people on this site & the tutorials. Comments are great, everyone leave them!! With this diverse crowd you will get technical comments & emotional comments. They are both great.
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06/01/2007 10:31:26 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by cassilda_terry:
"loser"
this hurt me a lot...especially cuz it was a self portrait |
Don't let that comment hurt you, as it's made from a loser himself, just trying to make himself feel better by hurting others.
I tend to laugh at those comments and let him know it. ;-)
Message edited by author 2007-06-01 22:32:26. |
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06/01/2007 10:56:25 PM · #84 |
I think any time i get a comment it is a great thing, however sometimes I do find it fustraiting. For example I have a shot that had a comment "unintersting" thats it. Well to me the subject was interesting, as was the composition and lighting or else i wouldnt have entered it... So being so vague does not lend its self to aiding in the betterment of ones skills in this art form... what was uninteresting about it? what in your oppinion would you do to change it or even as simple as "uninteresting subject" etc. just clue me in a little I need to be pointed in the right direction sometimes.
Just my 2 cents
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06/01/2007 10:57:46 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by bucket:
Originally posted by L2:
This is exactly the kind of thread that makes others not want to comment at all. |
On the other hand people making comments flippantly about what the photographer should do might make some people not want to enter at all. I love getting a sense of how people react..love it or hate, but really don't like comments where people tell me "you should..". I happen to have pretty thick skin, and a fairly thick skull, but sometimes I wish people would just react to the shot, rather than telling me how to get a better score.
And yes I do get your point, and don't have a problem with it..I simply don't entirely agree. |
Any time you get a comment it's a reaction. If someone is hung up on technicals or something else you find trival that should tell you the photo registered little impact with that voter as a whole. |
I don't disagree.
I just don't think that all the comments given out here are valuable. And I know that pits me against the masses. It is not that someone is indifferent, nor critical that bothers me. It is simply the presumption that what doesn't conform to their eye is a mistake. "You should.." is not constructive language, nor is it simply a reaction. It goes to a step further, one that implies the commenter knows more than the photographer.
Other people may like it. I don't.
I find it strange that every time someone wants to complain about a comment on this site they are admonished. Clearly there are two parts of the equation here. And the one that seems to get ignored is how many people are afraid to take photographic risks due to the conforming nature of the comments/votes. I have read comments telling what I could do to make my shots more like a ribbon, and even to be more like a specific photographer. Now as much as many might find that helpful, I see a potential problem in the overall creativity of the site being stifled. I am not angry at the person for giving me this comment. But I do think it can be healthy to discuss the construction of a helpful comment. That would involve debating the merits of various types of comments. A thread like this isn't necessarily bad. It is treated like it is, in a dismissive condescending manner. I don't think that is right. |
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06/02/2007 12:10:06 AM · #86 |
If people are allowed to judge you on your art because you put it out there to be judged, they should expect a response to their response. You react to a photo however you want with and other people are not allowed to react back?
I just got a comment I felt was pretty rude and I'm debating what to do about it. Probably nothing but it just erks me that it happens to be one of my favorite images and they said some really careless things that had more to do with personal bias than any technicals.
It's healthy to have reaction to comments and not try to stiffle it, otherwise things get really out of hand as we have seen with some instances in the past. |
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06/02/2007 12:12:10 AM · #87 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by posthumous:
I received a comment "gluggle" and I was terribly offended because it was a picture of my niece. But then I realized that the commentor was drowning and I called the life guard. It was too late, though. Now he's part of the ocean and his comments are devestating. |
I'm flat offended period. It is often what causes me to make a picture in the first place. Now, when someone comments on that image, he would decidedly not be able to expand my global outrage at the state of affairs any further. |
And that is exactly why I try to make my comments as offensive as possible. |
why exaclty is that? i missed your point. |
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06/02/2007 12:21:51 AM · #88 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I'm flat offended period. It is often what causes me to make a picture in the first place. Now, when someone comments on that image, he would decidedly not be able to expand my global outrage at the state of affairs any further. |
And that is exactly why I try to make my comments as offensive as possible. |
why exaclty is that? i missed your point. |
The offended artist documents his offense with a photograph. Because of my profound understanding of the art he creates, I too become offended. I then write something offensive to show my solidarity with the artist.
The world offends the artist, as a speck of sand offends the oyster. In retaliation, the artist creates a pearl. This pearl, in turn, offends me, so I pierce it and string it onto a necklace, which I present to the artist. The artist is offended by my gift. We now understand each other.
what a minute... that was a trick question! I have no point. I explained that already. |
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06/02/2007 12:24:31 AM · #89 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I'm flat offended period. It is often what causes me to make a picture in the first place. Now, when someone comments on that image, he would decidedly not be able to expand my global outrage at the state of affairs any further. |
And that is exactly why I try to make my comments as offensive as possible. |
why exaclty is that? i missed your point. |
The offended artist documents his offense with a photograph. Because of my profound understanding of the art he creates, I too become offended. I then write something offensive to show my solidarity with the artist.
The world offends the artist, as a speck of sand offends the oyster. In retaliation, the artist creates a pearl. This pearl, in turn, offends me, so I pierce it and string it onto a necklace, which I present to the artist. The artist is offended by my gift. We now understand each other.
what a minute... that was a trick question! I have no point. I explained that already. |
So just basically you like being a downer for no purpose at all? That's cool. |
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06/02/2007 12:27:46 AM · #90 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
So just basically you like being a downer for no purpose at all? That's cool. |
That's a fascinating interpretation of what I wrote. Have you read my comments? |
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06/02/2007 01:12:03 AM · #91 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
So just basically you like being a downer for no purpose at all? That's cool. |
That's a fascinating interpretation of what I wrote. Have you read my comments? |
yes i read quite a lot of them actually. a lot of them are really nice. but the fact that you TRY to make comments offensive is what irks me. |
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06/02/2007 01:22:28 AM · #92 |
I think  posthumous has a highly developed sense of sarcastic wit. ;) Along with a highly consistent stream of good, sensible, and constructive comments.
Dig a little deeper  escapetooz. :) |
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06/02/2007 01:37:48 AM · #93 |
Now that I think about it, he can be rude. One time he accused my picture of being 'ribbony' but not possessing any real value for society.(I paraphrased the last part). He eventually qualified his comment after I barraged him with emails. ;)
BTW, your 50's style portrait in your portolio is very good. Cheers,
eta:
I think your previous post disappeared so this response seems a little disconnected. Wierd.
Message edited by author 2007-06-02 01:41:06. |
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06/02/2007 01:39:45 AM · #94 |
Originally posted by mpeters:
I think posthumous has a highly developed sense of sarcastic wit. ;) Along with a highly consistent stream of good, sensible, and constructive comments.
Dig a little deeper escapetooz. :) |
Ok I thought I replied to this already so either my computer is slow or my meds are making me delerious (I just got my wisdom teeth out! lol) I did dig deep. Seemed many were nice constructive comments most of which were rated between 8-10 with a few 7s and most of which I found funny. Which is why I was even more appalled at the mean-spirited comment I recieved basically saying a 4 was beign too generous. |
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06/02/2007 02:00:46 AM · #95 |
My feeling is anytime you take upon yourself to define what others are/should be doing you are setting yourself up for frustration and disappointment.
There are no good comments - there are no bad comments - they simply "are". All meaning and judgment comes from within you.
So much energy is put into changing how others act - energy wasted. You'll never change "them" no matter how much debate - I'd recommend a look inside. (not that I'm trying to change what you are - I just sense your collective anguish).
FWIW - I think Posthumousis a DPC asset and should be thanked for his numerous contributions and willingness to pull excellent photos from page 28 of a challenge and hold them up in the light - as well as his thoughtful and sometimes biting critique. I'm glad he's around.
ETA I appreciate Escapetooz and her contributions too. :-)
Message edited by author 2007-06-02 02:02:11. |
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06/02/2007 02:12:46 AM · #96 |
ugh. sorry just things aren't the greatest right now and as I already mentioned I'm on some meds for my wisdom teeth and am sensitive.
That being said, I still think the comment I recieved was rude. I do not doubt his many contributions and I'm not telling him to stop commenting. I just don't think there is a point in TRYING to be offensive as he already admited. |
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06/02/2007 02:17:36 AM · #97 |
I think that this kind of threat will help the people that made bad
comments ,keep doing that.Why?
Because when somebody make a comment with this way ,don't want to educate or make you better but their purpose is to hurt you .So when they realize all this reaction that their comment have create then they will feel happy
about that and they will keep doing this.
I propose stop loosing your time talking about the bad comments and use your time talking for those that were helpful for you . |
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06/02/2007 02:19:06 AM · #98 |
The comment simple "is".
No matter what his intention - definition comes from within you.
nuff said. |
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06/02/2007 02:25:35 AM · #99 |
Originally posted by digitalknight:
The comment simple "is".
No matter what his intention - definition comes from within you.
nuff said. |
I think I have to disagree with you on this. Words have definitions already in place, that is language. Sure connotations are there but some words speak for themselves. A comment isn't just a comment. It has meaning, which consists of words, intention and perception. There is no point in a comment if you say to just look at it like an object that just "is" without any meaning or intent.
hope that made sense... |
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06/02/2007 02:28:46 AM · #100 |
Originally posted by strangeghost:
I've said it before in threads like this, and I'll say it again:
Anytime someone stops to type something in the box below one of my pictures, I regard it as helpful. Why? Because they're using their time to give me feedback about a piece of artwork created by ME. Even one word comments. Even negative feedback. Even words that could be regarded as immature, selfish and stupid observations. Each comment represents a reaction by another person. If someone is reacting to my creation, how could that be bad? Every person is different, and comes to my photo with a unique perspective. However they react is fine by me (I'm not looking for stroking). The fact that they react, I find helpful. |
Well said, and thanks for saving my time (i was going to write the same). |
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