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05/20/2007 08:57:50 PM · #51 |
It's a misconception to think that digital point and shoots do the same job as a true DSLR (or even point and shoot film and film SLR). Or to think that someone with a point and shoot, with shutter lag and lack of changable lenses, lack of manual control, lack of a flash connection, limited shutter speeds, etc., can shoot as well as a DSLR.
You need to speak to your audiance... are most of the people point and shoot owners are do they have DSLR or film SLR or even medium format cameras? If you try to talk about exposure, depth of field, fill flash, front lighting/back lighting, action shooting, color corrections, filters, etc., to those that only have the point and shoot cameras, it's going to be of limited help to them.
You probably aren't going to have the time to get into how to work around shutter lag and how to be able to use external flash without having a PC slot as well as cover or to work limited shutter speed and fstops of most point and shoot cameras. So be sure and take information that you can pass out (with links to a few good sources) of where they can go to look up some of the additional information and find answers to some of the questions that talking with them is sure to raise.
And watch out for the big miconception that just because someone shoots a point and shoot, that they don't have the smarts, talent, or desire that DSLR shooters have. And some even has the as big of egos too. ;)
Mike
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05/20/2007 09:01:25 PM · #52 |
Misconception: You don't need a flash in the daytime!
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05/20/2007 09:08:50 PM · #53 |
MikeJ its also misconception that an SLR or dSLR will make you a better photographer.
I use my SLR as much as i can just cant use it for here. Also using the SLR less due to the seals being 30 years old and i have to tape up the backdoor after i load film. I also have a 1987 Canon AV-1 but i dont have any lenses for it the 50 1.8 for tis broke. |
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05/20/2007 09:28:50 PM · #54 |
That the best way to pose people is to line them all up and make the say cheese.
People always think they need to have people look directly into the camera and fake a smile. Give me more of a candid any day. |
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05/20/2007 09:30:14 PM · #55 |
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05/20/2007 09:30:40 PM · #56 |
That the subject should look into the camera and say 'Cheese'.
edit: oops, too slow.
Message edited by author 2007-05-20 21:32:40. |
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05/20/2007 09:42:31 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by MikeJ:
It's a misconception to think that digital point and shoots do the same job as a true DSLR (or even point and shoot film and film SLR).
Mike |
I think it is misconception that to take very good photograph you need SLRs only. There are plently of point and shoot those can do the job.
And the one I have could be as good as any SLR in day light (in fact it could be far better than a dSLR with kit lense).
and as far as doing the same job goes, how many two SLRs you have mind those can do exactly same job???
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05/20/2007 09:46:08 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by ralph:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Originally posted by pccjrose:
Are you paying attention to the theme of this forum?
Our friend was asking about misconceptions and we were giving them...
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Originally posted by ralph:
the camera knows the best exposure
(letting the camera do the work..incorrectly ..I.E. snow pics, or back lit pics) |
What if the camera is wrong? |
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Are you reading all the posts?
I have given a couple.
What if the camera is wrong.
Canons version of light, and Nikons version of light, and Sonys version of light all are differant in there sensors.
The question stands. |
gibberish
brand non-withstanding- camera exposes for 18% grey
you take a pic on a snow field it will try to adjust the snow to 18%, not the +1-2ev to get a proper exposure (snow is white not grey)
photography 101 |
Actually, a lot of newer cameras measure levels at various places in the frame and try to guess whether the "background" should be gray, white, or black. The degree of success depends on the camera and the scene, but most actually work pretty good for typical snapshots. |
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05/20/2007 09:48:53 PM · #59 |
misconception: photo portrays the actual subject realistically.
eg: movie stars, celebrity photos, magazine covers, food photography... |
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05/20/2007 09:53:46 PM · #60 |
| Dont think that what you see in magazines is what comes out of the camera. |
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05/20/2007 10:20:36 PM · #61 |
Another one!
Myth: The subject should be in the center.
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05/20/2007 10:26:16 PM · #62 |
Your on-camera flash can light an entire football field, auditorium, race track, whatever.
Anybody other than me laugh at all the flashes that pop at the Super Bowl, big Nascar night races, or other big nighttime event? I sit there watching, thinking 50,000 flashes just fired and not a single person got a viable photo. :-)
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05/20/2007 10:27:22 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by karmat:
"You must center your subject" |
post #6 :P |
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05/20/2007 10:28:03 PM · #64 |
I think the greatest misconception is sort of the opposite of what most have said. Not that "you take great shots you must have a great camera" but most think that because they buy a great camera they will automatically take great shots.... that the camera is all there is to it.
I love the quote from Freemen Patterson "creative tool is an oxymoron" |
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05/20/2007 10:29:29 PM · #65 |
| Ken Rockwell is a genius. |
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05/20/2007 10:30:42 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Ken Rockwell is a genius. |
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05/20/2007 10:30:49 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Ken Rockwell is a genius. |
LMFAO! :-D |
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05/20/2007 10:31:28 PM · #68 |
| You don't need to use a flash outdoors in the daytime. |
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05/20/2007 10:31:28 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by karmat:
"You must center your subject" |
post #6 :P |
You know what they say about great minds... I skimmed the thread but managed to miss that.
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05/20/2007 11:29:10 PM · #70 |
....oops
Message edited by author 2007-05-20 23:33:12. |
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05/20/2007 11:27:57 PM · #71 |
From the same article "Fujifilm FinePix F10, which was the first camera to offer anything close to usable ISO 800 and ISO 1600 performance (later refined in the FinePix F30 and FinePix F31fd)"
Canon 30D ISO 800
Fuji F30 ISO 800
Only a couple of POS's on the market oop i mean P&S's todo it that well though... atleast at full res. |
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05/20/2007 11:40:42 PM · #72 |
"You need a wide angle to shoot landscapes"
"Always use the largest aperture you can"
"IS/VR can help with sports photography (replace fast apertures)"
"I print 4x6 pictures, I only shoot at ISO 100 because of noise" |
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05/20/2007 11:57:56 PM · #73 |
I have seen a lot of digital novices start to lower the camera just as they trigger the shutter. Would this qualify as a misconception that you have the pic as soon as you think that you do? They see the event happen, and then click the shutter as they begin lowering the camera.
A huge number of images are blurred by this action.
You may mention that it would be helpful to learn to hold the camera in position for a second after getting the shot.
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05/20/2007 11:59:54 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
I have seen a lot of digital novices start to lower the camera just as they trigger the shutter. Would this qualify as a misconception that you have the pic as soon as you think that you do? They see the event happen, and then click the shutter as they begin lowering the camera.
A huge number of images are blurred by this action.
You may mention that it would be helpful to learn to hold the camera in position for a second after getting the shot. |
Its a good thought something i noticed about my A630 unlike my olympus the shutter sound does not fire until the second curtain has closed. The Olympus had two shutter sounds one just before the first curtain and one during the second Curtain.
I shot archery when i was a kid 3 time maryland state champion in out door target. I always took my eyes of the target before i triggered my release. |
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05/21/2007 01:03:07 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
MikeJ its also misconception that an SLR or dSLR will make you a better photographer.
I use my SLR as much as i can just cant use it for here. Also using the SLR less due to the seals being 30 years old and i have to tape up the backdoor after i load film. I also have a 1987 Canon AV-1 but i dont have any lenses for it the 50 1.8 for tis broke. |
While it is true that there are some people that can take a outstanding shot with just about any type camera, this isn't true for the vast majority of people out there. I can play any sterio made, but that doesn't mean I'll get the best sound out of it if I don't know how to use all of it's features.
It's an old photographer myth that it isn't the camera but the photographer... To a small extent this is true, but this rumor was started by those that couldn't afford to buy better a long time ago. If the camera didn't matter, you wouldn't see award winning, high earning, highly recognized photographers using the best equipment money can buy (or their sponsors can provide). You sure don't see point and shoots lining the Super Bowl side lines, Indy 500 track, press room at the White House, or being used by the photographers that shoot $50,000 weddings. There is a reason for this... and it's not because they can afford better either. Although not being able to get those big white Canon lenses on a point and shoot might have something to do with it. :D
I agree that for some photography a point and shoot can take just as good a picture as a DSLR. But there are a lot of limitations that it's very hard for a P&S to get around. A lot just depends on how serious the person is in photography. Probably the majority of the people that Russell will be talking to aren't as serious as most of the people on DPC and a P&S does everything that they want and more.
And with everything in life, it's been shown 100% that nothing is absolute. And I'm sure there is someone that can shoot anything from a pin hole camera all the way up to the Hubble Telescope camera and get excellent results... just not of the same subject. ;)
Mike
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