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05/19/2007 10:33:41 PM · #1
I made a website for my work and im editing it a bit today and all of a sudden it starts messing up!

instead of saying:
//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm

now it says:
//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719

it shows just the logo, background color, but nothing else! Help.. I need this done by monday and i have no idea whats happening..

All i did was add some pictures and links, but didn't even alter this page, i changed a different one, I changed .../cakes.htm and its saying .../Cakes.html?200719 as well. Help I can provide the codeing if need be, but its kinda confusing lol :P
05/19/2007 10:38:58 PM · #2
Looks fine to me... I'm not sure what you're seeing.
05/19/2007 10:39:38 PM · #3
wtf...

when i go to
//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719 it works, but thats not the link i made for this site, why is it doing this now?
05/19/2007 10:40:13 PM · #4
Originally posted by chimericvisions:

Looks fine to me... I'm not sure what you're seeing.


its SUPPOSED to be:
//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm

then for no reason now its:
//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719

why! i have to change a crapload of links now...
05/19/2007 10:41:13 PM · #5
btw it seems to only work in firefox.. atleast for me.
05/19/2007 10:41:40 PM · #6
Some kind of redirection added by one of those JavaScript scripts? There are a few includes, near the bottom of your source. Have a look. Find out what the script does, or better yet, remove it and see what happens.
05/19/2007 10:43:25 PM · #7
Originally posted by Louis:

Some kind of redirection added by one of those JavaScript scripts? There are a few includes, near the bottom of your source. Have a look. Find out what the script does, or better yet, remove it and see what happens.


ya i added that awhile back, its used to cancel out the geocities popup ads, and has worked just fine for awhile now.

removing them does nothing, i just tried.

What seems to work:
In firefox:

//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm
//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719

In Internet explorer:
Neither of them works.

I need it to work in all browsers cuz not everyone has firefox..

Message edited by author 2007-05-19 22:46:29.
05/19/2007 10:44:30 PM · #8
Originally posted by kawana:

Originally posted by Louis:

Some kind of redirection added by one of those JavaScript scripts? There are a few includes, near the bottom of your source. Have a look. Find out what the script does, or better yet, remove it and see what happens.


ya i added that awhile back, its used to cancel out the geocities popup ads, and has worked just fine for awhile now.


BTW they do catch on and they do cancel your account lol. Takes awhile most of the time.
05/19/2007 10:46:41 PM · #9
geocities does that. If you edit it tomorrow you will see that it will change from //www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719 to //www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200720. That is just the update. Don't worry about that. As far as your links not coming up, open you're index.htm page in your HTML editor again and make sure you have everything right. Also you might want to delete the //www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719 off your server and redo the index upload. Try it and see if it fixes the problem.
05/19/2007 10:47:01 PM · #10
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Originally posted by kawana:

Originally posted by Louis:

Some kind of redirection added by one of those JavaScript scripts? There are a few includes, near the bottom of your source. Have a look. Find out what the script does, or better yet, remove it and see what happens.


ya i added that awhile back, its used to cancel out the geocities popup ads, and has worked just fine for awhile now.


BTW they do catch on and they do cancel your account lol. Takes awhile most of the time.


oh really? that sucks :S oh well this is just a temp site while my boss sets up a .com
05/19/2007 10:48:48 PM · #11
Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

geocities does that. If you edit it tomorrow you will see that it will change from //www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719 to //www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200720. That is just the update. Don't worry about that. As far as your links not coming up, open you're index.htm page in your HTML editor again and make sure you have everything right. Also you might want to delete the //www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719 off your server and redo the index upload. Try it and see if it fixes the problem.


there is no .../index.htm?200719, just .../index.htm

It seems to redirect it to ?200719
05/19/2007 11:12:02 PM · #12
Using IE 6 here.

//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719 gives me a logo and background img.

//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm gives me a logo, background img, and the sponsored links panel on the right.

Neither one of these links show any text. It appears by looking at the source code there should be various paragraphs of text about the company, address, etc...

In the source code for both urls there are several html commented sections that state "server generated code, please remove", yet the code still seems to be there.

Also, some inconsistency in coding with some html having closing tags (i.e. ) and many that have no closing tags at all.

How was this code generated?!

edit typo.

Message edited by author 2007-05-19 23:12:31.
05/19/2007 11:24:50 PM · #13
The ?200719 suffix is just a query string. Both links still go to your index.htm page.

The query string passes the page extra data. Something may be using the extra data (like your JavaScripts or the webserver), but your base index.htm link should still work fine.

-Jeff
05/20/2007 12:51:45 AM · #14
Originally posted by smurfguy:

The ?200719 suffix is just a query string. Both links still go to your index.htm page.

The query string passes the page extra data. Something may be using the extra data (like your JavaScripts or the webserver), but your base index.htm link should still work fine.

-Jeff


it doesn't though, atleast not on internet explorer, firefox seems fine
05/20/2007 12:52:35 AM · #15
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Using IE 6 here.

//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm?200719 gives me a logo and background img.

//www.geocities.com/oldetownebakery11/index.htm gives me a logo, background img, and the sponsored links panel on the right.

Neither one of these links show any text. It appears by looking at the source code there should be various paragraphs of text about the company, address, etc...

In the source code for both urls there are several html commented sections that state "server generated code, please remove", yet the code still seems to be there.

Also, some inconsistency in coding with some html having closing tags (i.e. ) and many that have no closing tags at all.

How was this code generated?!

edit typo.


I did the code myself, i know its kind of a hackjob but until yesterday it worked perfectly. Im confused cuz i didn't change a darn thing on the main website and it started giving me that ?200719 thing
05/20/2007 02:14:52 AM · #16
There's a lot of little things to clean up on that page. IE is stopping because of the malformed comments. HTML comments start with not --!>. Not seeing the ?200719 at all. Usual advice about using CSS instead of font tags, blank images, messy styling in tags, etc and adding a DTD would apply here.
05/20/2007 02:36:13 AM · #17
I am not an expert so I don't know if I am helping much but here it goes anyway.

Works fine in Mozilla Firefox. IE7 only shows the Background. I looked at the source in both firefox and IE7 and this was near the top which says to remove it?





Also near the bottom is the same "Please Remove" line.

What is up with that?

Is Firefox smarter than IE7? Able to ignore things and display what it assumes should happen?



Message edited by author 2007-05-20 02:37:59.
05/20/2007 02:38:00 AM · #18
Originally posted by ssodell:

I am not an expert so I don't know if I am helping much but here it goes anyway.

Works fine in Mozilla Firefox. IE7 only shows the Background. I looked at the source in both firefox and IE7 and this was near the top which says to remove it?





What is up with that?

Is Firefox smarter than IE7? Able to ignore things and display what it assumes should happen?


Thats not actually on the page. It is generated and inserted into every geocities page for the past 7 years. But its not in the original file. Its the code to make their popup work.
05/20/2007 02:56:33 AM · #19
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

There's a lot of little things to clean up on that page. IE is stopping because of the malformed comments. HTML comments start with not --!>. Not seeing the ?200719 at all. Usual advice about using CSS instead of font tags, blank images, messy styling in tags, etc and adding a DTD would apply here.


Do you know another way to add indenting? I dont know another way, thats why i did the blank images and such. Whats a DTD?
05/20/2007 02:59:41 AM · #20
Document Type

Hes basicly telling you to step up to XHTML 1.0 Strict lmao... or HTML 4.01 Strict coding standards. They both ask to have a document type in the top. Otherwise the browser goes into quirks mode.

Coding standards have changed. What they teach in high school(graduated in 03) is basically a a free handed mixture of html 2 and 3.2.

Font tags got replaced with Cascading Style Sheets and then you just add a reference to each section of text you want to use a particular style. Cuts down on the code the browser has to process.

Oh and theres about 3 ways to indent.

Message edited by author 2007-05-20 03:00:13.
05/20/2007 03:03:28 AM · #21
I deleted the server generated sections of the source code as I stated before, saved it to my documents as html. Then opened it with Internet Explorer and it works fine. I can even click on the links and it takes me to the breads and the cakes.

I was also reading about quirks mode and standard mode. If there is text at the beginning of the page the browser will trigger into quarks mode or something. Maybe this stuff at the beginning triggers the browser to the wrong mode and then won't work right with the code.
05/20/2007 03:05:10 AM · #22
Originally posted by ssodell:

I deleted the server generated sections of the source code as I stated before, saved it to my documents as html. Then opened it with Internet Explorer and it works fine. I can even click on the links and it takes me to the breads and the cakes.

I was also reading about quirks mode and standard mode. If there is text at the beginning of the page the browser will trigger into quarks mode or something. Maybe this stuff at the beginning triggers the browser to the wrong mode and then won't work right with the code.


Could be your popup remover is causing geocities popup code to cause problems with IE. Which maybe even on purpose they figure they can make it cause problems and stop you from using the stopper code.
05/20/2007 03:16:12 AM · #23
Too many people are trying to help or something, I can't view the page anymore since the transfer limit has been exceeded. lol.
05/20/2007 09:45:13 AM · #24
Originally posted by ssodell:

Too many people are trying to help or something, I can't view the page anymore since the transfer limit has been exceeded. lol.

Did you expect anything less? lol

P.S. Now I'm hungry...
05/20/2007 09:52:46 AM · #25
Originally posted by kawana:

Do you know another way to add indenting? I dont know another way, thats why i did the blank images and such. Whats a DTD?

Hi. Having fun yet? :)

I'm about 2 years out from doing web development now (currently working in Unix, C++, some Java). A couple of books that were a great reference/learning tool for me are the following:

Cascading Style Sheets - The Definitive Guide, by Eric Meyer, O'Reilly publishing, ISBN 0-596-00525-3
JavaScript & DHTML Cookbook, by Danny Goodman, O'Reilly publishing, ISBN 0-596-00467-2

Best of luck to you.
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