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Sigma 50-500mm f/4.0-6.3 EX APO RF HSM for Olympus

07/23/2003 07:30:56 AM · #1

Looks like the S5000 will be announced next week.

Details leaked so far:
4th Generation Super CCD HR
3.1 Million Effective Pixels / 6MP Recorded Pixels
Super EBC 10X Optical Zoom /2.2x Digital Zoom
Aperture or Shutter Priority or Full Manual Exposure
Continuous Shooting Modes
High ISO Sensitivity (ISO800)
PC-CAM Internet Conferencing
VGA 30fps Digital Movie Recording
Powered by AA Batteries
Video Out (NTSC or PAL)
Lens Adapters Available

The lens looks to be 37-370mm f2.8-3.6.

There's a photo of the camera
here, priced at $499.

Not much on the S7000 yet other than it's due in October, should have a 6MP effective CCD and will be priced around $799.

inspzil

Olympus E-510

07/23/2003 07:49:57 AM · #2

Personally, I think Fuji should've skipped this camera and went right to the s7000. They put a couple of nicer features on it compared to the 602, but like the boneheads at Olympus, put them on the 3MPx camera instead of a 5 or 6 MPx. Is it just me or does this camera look fat and ugly? Doesn't have that cool sleek design and professional look of the 602z. Maybe its just me.

What the hell do I know? - Bob

Jacko

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/23/2003 08:02:32 AM · #3

Looks like a DSLR. At 10x optical (equivalent to 350mm), it looks like a pretty good deal. But Gawd, take off that ugly Finepix logo; Replace it with Fuji ... or Canon. ;)

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

07/23/2003 08:22:48 AM · #4

I looked at the bigger pic and it looks so bulky and ugly, because it is shown with an adaptor screwd on it. I think it looks a lot like the 602, but this adapter seems bigger.

The big zoom and increased dynamic range for that price looks interesting for a lot of budgets I guess. When you do normal sized photo's you don't really need more mp.
I wonder if it has some kind of image stabilization and if the Oly T-CON17 1.7x teleconverter will fit.

Personally I am more interested in the dSLR's now, but this looks like a great tool to start with.

marbo

Nikon D5000

07/23/2003 09:17:14 AM · #5

Looks like a great camera but not a great leap up from the 602. The next step for myself will be DSLR.
I don`t think any 602 owners would bother with the s5000 when the s7000 in around the corner and then your getting into D10 range.

e301

07/23/2003 09:20:32 AM · #6

Had I known about this yesterday I don't think i'd have bought the 5400 to relace the stolen 602 though.

Still have the option of taking the 5400 back if I 'don't like it' and getting something else though ... so the 5000 could be beckoning :-)

ed

crabappl3

07/23/2003 09:32:57 AM · #7

Tell me more of this s7000... is it a true SLR? Any links with more info?

Thanks

07/23/2003 09:49:22 AM · #8

Originally posted by crabappl3:

Tell me more of this s7000... is it a true SLR? Any links with more info?

As far as I can tell it will be the same as the S5000, just with the 6MP CCD. No word on an S2 replacement with the 4th generation CCD yet.

crabappl3

07/23/2003 09:50:57 AM · #9

Originally posted by bod:

Originally posted by crabappl3:
Tell me more of this s7000... is it a true SLR? Any links with more info?

As far as I can tell it will be the same as the S5000, just with the 6MP CCD. No word on an S2 replacement with the 4th generation CCD yet.

An S3 with the 12mp sensor would rock! *sigh* May have to buy a Canon or Nikon instead if there is no plan for it's arrival before next year.

07/23/2003 10:01:15 AM · #10

Oh, and the S7000 is likely to have less optical zoom due to the larger sensor.
There's also rumblings about an S9000, so anything about the S7000 really is just guesswork.

07/23/2003 11:09:18 AM · #11

That's right the 6/12mp is the same size as the current 3/6 (1/1.7").
I wonder how it compares to the F717. That one uses a 2/3" (bigger, larger photodiodes). But with a good lens is could come close, the 1/1.8" 5mp Sony V1 comes very close as well.

07/29/2003 04:02:49 AM · #12

The announcements have been made, the previews have begun:
S5000 Announcement and a 6 page hands-on review.

S7000 Announcement - looks pretty much like a 602 with a 6mp sensor ... "the most heavyweight imaging capability ever seen in a 'prosumer' camera" ... and a few upgraded components (better EVF & LCD).

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/29/2003 04:27:35 AM · #13

I think I will trade in the 602 for a S7000.
Lately I ran into serious resolution problems, so the bigger output is nice, that is when the resolving power of the CCD is better. Already got all the other accesoires.
It has kept the speed (5fps at 6/12mp). New raw output, b&w color setting (602 only does that in a program mode) and cable release socket (miss that). Fuji also hints that the S7000 can handle FAT32.

Depending on the quality of the output I might even postpone the dSLR plans.

I can't wait to see the samples.

jimmythefish

Canon EOS-10D

07/29/2003 04:30:09 AM · #14

It's a shame the lenses aren't faster...F/2.8 is a little on the dim side...

07/29/2003 04:51:01 AM · #15

Just been at the Fuji website.

The S7000 has continious AF! That's it, I want one! :)

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

07/29/2003 05:01:06 AM · #16

Originally posted by Azrifel:

Just been at the Fuji website.

The S7000 has continious AF! That's it, I want one! :)

Whoa!
My eyes just popped out of my head and I'm having trouble finding them now : )

e301

07/29/2003 05:13:04 AM · #17

What chance of the S5000 lens on a s7000 featured body?

S5000 let-downs: no flash hot-shoe, xD card - no CF slot, no manual WB, shutter speed fastest 1/1000 ...

Ed

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

07/29/2003 05:35:08 AM · #18

Originally posted by Azrifel:

Read the specs carefully - Top (3.3 fps) and final 5 (2 fps) are slower than the 602, first indications are that the JPEG compression is higher (6 megapixel output = 1.5MB), the S5000 has continuous AF not the S7000, max aperture of f8, max ISO of 800...

As far as I'm concerned the S5000 is a step down from a 602 and the S7000 a step sideways. I'm waiting for the S9000 which will hopefully combine the features of the S7000 and S5000 :-)

Updated:

S5000 samples online at //www.finepix.com/lineup/s5000/sample.html

Message edited by author 2003-07-29 05:40:28.

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

07/29/2003 05:50:24 AM · #19

Originally posted by robsmith:

Read the specs carefully - Top (3.3 fps) and final 5 (2 fps) are slower than the 602

Where are you seeing this? I still see 5fps for top & final 5. Only the 40 frame mode has dropped in speed, but you can now use it in 3mp mode!

Originally posted by robsmith:

first indications are that the JPEG compression is higher (6 megapixel output = 1.5MB)

Ack!

Originally posted by robsmith:

the S5000 has continuous AF not the S7000, max aperture of f8, max ISO of 800...

Fuji are definitely quoting continuous AF on the 7000. F8 is a downer - I use F11 quite a lot. The loss of ISO1600 is no biggy at all, I never go beyond 400.

Originally posted by robsmith:

As far as I'm concerned the S5000 is a step down from a 602 and the S7000 a step sideways. I'm waiting for the S9000 which will hopefully combine the features of the S7000 and S5000 :-)

Here's hoping : )

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

07/29/2003 05:56:09 AM · #20

Bod, specs are from the Fuji UK site press release //www.fujifilm.co.uk/presscentre/newcameras/s-7000/info.html

Focus
Autofocus / Area / Centre / Multi, Manual Focus

Shutter Speed
Auto / SP: 1/4 sec. to 1/2000 sec.
SP (night scene mode only): 3 sec. to 1/250 sec.
P/S/A: 3 sec. to 1/1000 sec.
Manual: 15 sec. to 1/10000

Aperture
f2.8 - f8 10 levels in 1/3 EV step

Sensitivity
Auto Equivalent to ISO 160 - 800
Manual Equivalent to ISO 200/400/800
(resolution is set at 1M / 2M / 3M for shots taken at ISO800)

Shooting modes
Normal:
Auto, Scene Position (Portrait, Landscape, Sports, Night Scene)
Programmed AE, Aperture Priority AE, Shutter Priority AE, Manual
Continuous:
- Top 5 (3.3 frames/sec. up to 5 frames)
- Final 5 (2 frames/sec. up to 5 frames)
- Long period (max. 1 frames/sec. up to 40 frames. only at 1M / 2M / 3M mode)

It's basically a 602 with the new sensor

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

07/29/2003 05:56:44 AM · #21

Originally posted by robsmith:

Updated:

S5000 samples online at //www.finepix.com/lineup/s5000/sample.html

Is it just me or are those the worst set of samples ever?!
I know you shouldn't look at superccd output at full size on a monitor and expect the world, but they look rough.

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

07/29/2003 05:59:07 AM · #22

Originally posted by bod:

Originally posted by robsmith:
Updated:

S5000 samples online at //www.finepix.com/lineup/s5000/sample.html

Is it just me or are those the worst set of samples ever?!
I know you shouldn't look at superccd output at full size on a monitor and expect the world, but they look rough.

Same response as people gave to the S700, and look how long that's taken to come to the market!

Reckon it could be that the reduced sensor size (S5000 = 1/2.7" vs S602 = 1/1.7") has increased the noise levels, could be why ISO1600 has been dropped. Hopefully the S7000 won't be as bad as it's a 1/1.7" sensor (still got a damn sight more sites packed into the area though)

Message edited by author 2003-07-29 06:15:06.