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 05/08/2007 06:16:47 PM · #51
Another vote for the Garmin 60CSx. It's great but just realize that you'll have to spend money for maps. $130 for City Navigator or about $80 for topo. There's also topo maps for the U.S. National Parks. These are just ballpark prices off the top of my head.
05/10/2007 11:34:39 AM · #52
Does anyone know of any free topographical GPS mapping software for PDAs or PCs?
 05/10/2007 12:54:06 PM · #53
i'm waiting for delivery of the sony gps thing, you carry it on your belt and it tracks where you have been and puts gps data in your exif data, does this count?
 05/10/2007 01:03:06 PM · #54
I use VZNAV on my cell phone

1 - Directions
2 - Maps
3 - Maps that follow you
4 - WALKING directions LMAO
 05/10/2007 01:03:19 PM · #55
Originally posted by noisemaker:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
We also bought ours for geocaching. Bought a Magellan first, tried it once, and exchanged it for a Garmin E-trex.

Our first cache was in an area where the road cuts deeply between two high rock faces and the Magellan had a lot of echo issues. Whichever rock we were on, it told us we should be on the other side of the road.
Garmin led us within 2 feet of it on our first try.

It's a basic unit, but performs well for what we want and is about $100.

Btw, did you see the section on the Garmin site about geocaching?

What magellen model were you using though?


I don't recall, but it was just a few dollars cheaper, so it should have been in the same range, reliability-wise, you'd think.
 05/10/2007 01:11:42 PM · #56
I use a compass
never fails
 05/10/2007 01:21:07 PM · #57
Originally posted by Oded:
I use a compass
never fails


Actually, that's quite incorrect. Compasses can fail for a number of reasons. ;)
 05/10/2007 01:44:27 PM · #58
True but asuming you don't live in Antartica it will work in most cases (for much longer then any GPS

Originally posted by theSaj:
Originally posted by Oded:
I use a compass
never fails


Actually, that's quite incorrect. Compasses can fail for a number of reasons. ;)
05/10/2007 01:45:33 PM · #59
Just put more batteries in it...can your compass tell you the nearest McDonalds?
 05/10/2007 04:04:38 PM · #60
Originally posted by Oded:
True but asuming you don't live in Antartica it will work in most cases (for much longer then any GPS

Originally posted by theSaj:
Originally posted by Oded:
I use a compass
never fails


Actually, that's quite incorrect. Compasses can fail for a number of reasons. ;)


Well congrats....your compass tells you what direction you are facing. Doesn't do you a bit of good at telling you where you are.

Where as my GPS can tell me exactly where I am. Which if need I can report to rescue authories.

You are right about the batteries, that's why I am getting a shortwave radio that can power USB devices via a hand crank.... ;)

Message edited by author 2007-05-10 16:05:01.
 05/10/2007 04:14:05 PM · #61
Originally posted by Oded:
I use a compass
never fails


Don't store it near a magnet, any ferrous metals or electrical devices or it will fail to point you the right direction. Also, don't forget that, depending on where you are (of course, your compass can't tell you that), you will have to correct for deviations in the Earth's magnetic field, or once again, it will point you wrong.

In order for your compass to tell you where you're going, you need a map too and even then, you have to know where you're at to begin with to make that work.

A compass is a useful tool, but it's not a substitute for a GPS, whereas a GPS can substitute for a compass, especially if it has a map built in. Some GPS units also have built in compasses as well.

A compass is not just useless in Antarctica, it's just as useless near the North Pole.
 07/22/2007 09:57:15 PM · #62
Rechecking Garmin just now and found they have a Mac Beta WebUpdater available for software update.

Message edited by author 2007-07-22 22:04:03.
 07/22/2007 10:29:51 PM · #63
Somebody please explain to me why a person would even need this? I could see a couple of instances(hiking for one) but for the most part I see no practical use for a GPS. Besides, at the exponential rate the world is growing just wait a few more years and there won't be any forest for you to get lost in anyway. Lewis and Clark made it clear across this country on foot, canoe and horseback without some stupid little device to tell them where the closest Indian village or Starbucks was. Are people just to lazy to read a map these days? I'm betting 2/3s can't. Or is it that technology has made most people so stupid and lazy they can't do things for themselves. If you need to know exactly where you are, look at the street signs. Chances are they would be accurate. If you can't find your way to McDonalds without one then you're probably one those people that would better serve the world by not being here.
 07/22/2007 10:41:26 PM · #64
Originally posted by DefyTime:
Just put more batteries in it...can your compass tell you the nearest McDonalds?


If my GPS ever dared direct me to a McDonalds it would soon find itself in the rubbish bin.

Ray
 07/22/2007 10:47:22 PM · #65
this is a great thread I just came off a road trip and was looking for one of these, I am interested in the Garmin nuiv 200 model for driving but I also read in this thread that its not mac compatible or their is a beta floating around..

So I guess my question is do you have to use the software to put in your starting location and then your ending location? Or is the unit touch screen and you can put in the info on the unit itself not using any software?
 07/22/2007 10:52:56 PM · #66
Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
Somebody please explain to me why a person would even need this?


I for one use mine rather routinely as I travel extensively due to the nature of my work.

While it is indeed true that Lewis and Clark did indeed trek across America and never used anything remotely close to this piece of apparatus, I would hazard to guess that their timetable was a tad more flexible than that afforded to me by my bosses.

I have travelled clear across Canada on a few occasions, and so far have visited probably 30 states, and would strongly recommend NOT reading a map whilst driving. I certainly can't speak for anyone else here, but can assure you I do know how to read maps and am familiar with "Grid Coordinates". Reading street signs will indeed tell you exactly where you are, but unfortunately, that offers no indication as to where that is in relation to where you want to be.

Having said this, there are locations where a GPS will prove of little use, particularly in some foreign countries, and in those areas that might have undergone recent chances.

I have one... use it regularly and love it.

Ray

Message edited by author 2007-07-22 23:24:07.
 07/22/2007 10:57:11 PM · #67
you guys who live in europe, uk or us are fortunate, you're spoilt for choices when it comes to GPS devices (the maps are so easy to find!).

my suggestion is to get a windows mobile device, and then try before you buy any of the GPS/navigation software that suits your need the most (lots of varieties out there, some free). All you need is the GPS radio hardware, which is quite a no-brainer (as long as has good satellite lock-on)
 07/23/2007 02:54:29 AM · #68

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
Are people just to lazy to read a map these days? I'm betting 2/3s can't. Or is it that technology has made most people so stupid and lazy they can't do things for themselves.


Hell!! Why use a map (compass, too), that involved techhnology (and experience) to create also. Use only the North Star (Polaris, by the way), so you can only travel at night, unless you use your (non digital) watch....WHOOPS! some kind of technology. Guess ya will just have to shove a stick in the ground and then mark the shadow over 30 minutes to an hour, to figure east and west. Then be on your way. As long as you know where you are going.

People use them for many things.
I use it to plan, hike and backpack (off trail, alot), and have had a GPS with me for over 5 years, but I still like using map and compass more. You see the big picture. I like to use the UTM system with my compass and maps set up for same. Accuracy can count in finding something in particular.
I use it in my truck to plan my trips to the places I want to hike, setting waypoints for the extis, gives me a mile warning so when in traffic I can get in the right lane to make the turn. Saves gas and time when you know where the hell you are going, especially in places you have never been (IE: big cities).
I use it on my motorcycle (truck still), also. Gives me the speed that is easier to see, my heading (I like to know what direction I am heading, even though don't have much of a problem with that), and bearings, altitude, etc.
I use it to mark places I want to return to. Great for photography, especially, if you are doing a project for Seasons, etc.
And tons more things. Most have "games" on them that teach navigation, that I am teaching my 5 year old how to navigate, find himself on a map, the compass points and using them WITH a map.

Oh yeah, and actually marking out and printing my own maps (with TOPO!) with the trail I plan highlighted, and marked, or Tracks I have been on before. That is good so that I don't spend your tax dollars on Search and Rescue to come find me....hmmmmm.

And Lewis and CLark did have their own travel/mapping system. Just back then it was called a Sacagawea.

Message edited by author 2007-07-23 03:01:32.
 07/25/2007 09:43:56 PM · #69
Very hard to read a map and drive at the same time....

;-)
 07/25/2007 09:46:36 PM · #70
Originally posted by theSaj:
Very hard to read a map and drive at the same time....
;-)


you gotta activate voice navigation! :p
 07/25/2007 10:59:53 PM · #71
Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
Somebody please explain to me why a person would even need this?


Same reason we needed digital cameras when we had film.

Same reason we needed film when those plate things worked pretty good.

Same reason we use electric flashes when the explosive powder seemed to work well.

Same reason...
 07/25/2007 11:02:44 PM · #72
Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
Somebody please explain to me why a person would even need this?

very useful when i'm travelling - which i do a lot.
being in strange and new places with a gps and local map makes me feel confident that i wont get lost.
 07/25/2007 11:04:44 PM · #73
Garmin eTrx Ledgend CX for hiking with topo maps of everything west of the Mississippi on it.

Garmin Street Pilot 330 for the car (great if you are living in a new city!)

Garmin GPS Map 440 for the boat (worlds easier then reading charts when navigating Puget sound).

There is no one GPS that does everything...
 07/25/2007 11:10:19 PM · #74
i dont personally own one, but i helped my father-in-law get a good deal on a Garmin nüvi 350

wow, is that thing awesome
im convinced, after trying out several different ones, that it is hands-down the best GPS you can buy for the money
 07/28/2007 04:45:18 AM · #75
Well there is a new POI loader out for Mac. Doesn't work with my handheld GPSMap60C, but maybe you others with car type versions it will work with.
Garmin POI Loader
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