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05/07/2007 02:58:55 AM · #51

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I liked it better than this image, but I am curious how Dustin or his girlfriend would have voted on the linked image - or 3 variations of it in a triptych challenge? Look beyond your initial reaction and take in the colors and the crispness and detail. Sure it's not roses and ladybugs, but isn't this a refreshing change of pace?

edit: *maniacal laugh*

Seriously, to expect people to ignore the subject matter when voting is a ridiculous request, IMO.

Ignoring the subject matter and having an open mind to a subject are two entirely different things. I don't think the former has ever been asked of the voters at DPC that I can recall. As for Slippy's photo if it was the worst photo entered in the challenge then I'd give it a 1. If it was the best it may get a 10. Seems pretty basic to me. Although it's not as fun as pulling random numbers out of a hat especially if it's a cool hat.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 02:59:35.

HighNooner

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

05/07/2007 03:09:33 AM · #52

I did not get to vote on all photos this week, but if I did you would have had one more one.
I think this photo is overrated. A 5.1 score is more appropriate for it, but sometimes the voters here are just too generous.
Part of being young, is thinking that you are right all the time, and it is only the shortcomings of the general population that they can not see things your way.
This is a very average photo with a unique (in a creepy way) taste.

The people have spokenâ�¦ move on.

Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

05/07/2007 03:12:21 AM · #53

Originally posted by TIHadi:

HA
thats all I have to say

CEJ

Canon EOS-40D

05/07/2007 07:56:40 AM · #54

I didn't vote on this image since I knew it was yours - you clearly identified it in a thread during the week. However, had I voted on it, I would have given it a 5...maybe a 4. Bottom photo - hard to find an area that looks clear. Top left - blood looks fake. Top right - the darkness on the left half of the photo. You scored better than I would have expected though. JMO of course.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 08:15:16.

Buckeye_Fan

05/07/2007 08:07:08 AM · #55

I'm one of those who gave you a 3. I find the photo disturbing since I am a victim of domestic violence. I feel you glorified it instead of bringing awareness to the issue. Technically I don't think it was a good photo either.

Peace,

g

Ben

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/07/2007 08:13:16 AM · #56

If the voter doesn't like what they see then why shouldn't they vote low?

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Nikon

05/07/2007 08:24:53 AM · #57

I think my comment said my opinion pretty clearly...

Originally posted by Rankles:

Woah, you shooting a horror movie there fella? I think this is a little too OTT for DPC. You've got some great make up skills there but this is a little too in your face. There's domestic abuse and then there's murder.

It's not offensive to me, per se, but it's just unnecessary for a photography site. It might even be the fact that it's so staged that makes it very unnappealing for a photograph. It isn't an attractive photograh and plays out more like movie stills.

The photographs themselves are not particularly good and it glorifies violence by showing nothing but the act of murder.

Still, that has to be the most comments anyones ever got during a challenge, you have fifty now and counting.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 08:27:39.

Greetmir

Nikon D60

05/07/2007 08:28:58 AM · #58

Originally posted by rlinn3:

You said in the original post with the picture you expected to get scored low for this. You were right.

I agree. What did you expect? You got more 9s and 10s than 1s and 2s ... Who is to judge whether that is right or not? ... It is what it is.

You knew it was gonna be controversial before you entered it. Frankly, I am surprised such an alarming and graphic image received more than a 5.0

Just my two cents.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

05/07/2007 08:31:48 AM · #59

Originally posted by Greetmir:

Originally posted by rlinn3:
You said in the original post with the picture you expected to get scored low for this. You were right.

I agree. What did you expect? You got more 9s and 10s than 1s and 2s ... Who is to judge whether that is right or not? ... It is what it is.

You knew it was gonna be controversial before you entered it. Frankly, I am surprised such an alarming and graphic image received more than a 5.0

Just my two cents.

Yeah that is a pretty damn decent score. More so than most of my entries ever. Yet you complain.

bdenny

Sony DSC-H5

05/07/2007 08:38:46 AM · #60

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I liked it better than this image

Geez Art...what a wonderful way to start my morning...I'll remember that.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 08:39:06.

ralph

Nikon Z9

05/07/2007 08:45:08 AM · #61

if you want a high score you have to make 'Perrty Pictures (c)'
follow the crowd, don't be experimental, move to small island in the north atlantic
confine your shots to flowers, broken barns, auroras, perrty girls (nekid if possible)
scores are only what a select few ("The Voters") feel about your image

(IMO not a bad series / tells a story / don't like the title as it implies a unseen relationship ..)

rememberer the mantra "virtual score for virtual ribbons"

noraneko

Canon EOS R5

05/07/2007 08:48:13 AM · #62

I was alarmed by the photo, but consider it a good thing to feel alarm over this subject. I commend the photog's courage for putting it out there so bluntly. Domestic abuse is blunt, and it is real.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/07/2007 09:38:58 AM · #63

Originally posted by noraneko:

I was alarmed by the photo, but consider it a good thing to feel alarm over this subject. I commend the photog's courage for putting it out there so bluntly. Domestic abuse is blunt, and it is real.

The picture had nothing to do with domestic abuse though, which was another issue I had with it. Very few domestic abuse cases end with a murder and the picture itself shows nothing but a murder.

angelfire

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

05/07/2007 09:44:53 AM · #64

I voted it a 10 because of the emotion it incited, which is the vote it stayed with. However, when I showed it to my husband he said it would have been an 8. 1. because if she was supposed to look dead her eyes should be open with them slightly rolled up. 2. The lighting in the image with the guy digging is bad in his opinion. He said it could still have a dark feel to it but need to be crisper and better to see. he did like the sink picture. Hopefully that helps a bit.

Edit to add that he really did like the fact that you told a story with the three pictures.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 09:46:03.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

05/07/2007 09:49:59 AM · #65

Originally posted by Rankles:

Originally posted by noraneko:
I was alarmed by the photo, but consider it a good thing to feel alarm over this subject. I commend the photog's courage for putting it out there so bluntly. Domestic abuse is blunt, and it is real.

The picture had nothing to do with domestic abuse though, which was another issue I had with it. Very few domestic abuse cases end with a murder and the picture itself shows nothing but a murder.

the picture has EVERYTHING to do with domestic abuse though, in the world alot do lead to death, its just not all glamoured up so it doesn't hit the media, its a very current issue, thinking it rarely happens is ignorance

noraneko

Canon EOS R5

05/07/2007 09:51:32 AM · #66

Originally posted by Rankles:

The funny thing is that I didn't immediately associate the photo with a murder having taken place - I did associate it with domestic abuse. I actually thought the guy hit her with the shovel then went back about his business, which was gardening or something, and that the blood in the sink was from her own attempt to clean herself up. That interpretation seems more realistic than the murder, which is perhaps why my mind jumped to that conclusion. Erroneously, it appears. From this thread, I gather it was indeed about a murder.

Edit to add: and murders ARE the result of ongoing domestic abuse more often that we'd like to face as a society, I suspect. So either way, I think this definitely shows domestic abuse.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 09:52:56.

05/07/2007 09:52:17 AM · #67

Originally posted by Buckeye_Fan:

How have i glorified this issue? I am sorry to hear that and my photo has hit on a personal level. But I have not tried to "glorify" it, it is what it is and it can lead to death, luckily it didnt for you

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Canon

05/07/2007 09:53:25 AM · #68

Originally posted by noraneko:

Originally posted by Rankles:

Originally posted by noraneko:
I was alarmed by the photo, but consider it a good thing to feel alarm over this subject. I commend the photog's courage for putting it out there so bluntly. Domestic abuse is blunt, and it is real.

The picture had nothing to do with domestic abuse though, which was another issue I had with it. Very few domestic abuse cases end with a murder and the picture itself shows nothing but a murder.

The funny thing is that I didn't immediately associate the photo with a murder having taken place - I did associate it with domestic abuse. I actually thought the guy hit her with the shovel then went back about his business, which was gardening or something, and that the blood in the sink was from her own attempt to clean herself up. That interpretation seems more realistic than the murder, which is perhaps why my mind jumped to that conclusion. Erroneously, it appears. From this thread, I gather it was indeed about a murder.

Edit to add: and murders ARE the result of ongoing domestic abuse more often that we'd like to face as a society, I suspect. So either way, I think this definitely shows domestic abuse.

Well the photo is up for its own interpetation, you may think of it however you want :)

Phil

Canon EOS-7D

05/07/2007 09:58:52 AM · #69

We need a "DPC Junior" site. :D

tate

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

05/07/2007 10:04:00 AM · #70

Is saying this more valid than saying the photo should have scored higher?

Originally posted by TIHadi:

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05/07/2007 10:04:25 AM · #71

Originally posted by dudephil:

We need a "DPC Junior" site. :D

excuse me but what do you mean by that? Are you saying I shouldn't be allowed to participate with the "big boys"?

tate

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

05/07/2007 10:07:55 AM · #72

noisemaker ... I know the feeling. Just be different and keep up the good work. It's difficult to be controversial and expect everyone the jump on board. The photo was carried much by its story while the quality of the photo is right around average for DPC because there are some real pros here. Just keep going and don't worry about the anti-whine whiners.

pineapple

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

05/07/2007 10:12:49 AM · #73

Toyan and others like the art of "bloody women" - it turns me off.

tate

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

05/07/2007 10:28:13 AM · #74

Holy Sh#t ! I'm gonna vom#t.

Originally posted by bdenny:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
I liked it better than this image

Geez Art...what a wonderful way to start my morning...I'll remember that.