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05/04/2007 02:08:06 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Beautiful-Joe:
I rather enjoy giving comments..
Mainly just to people who need help, though.
If your photo doesn't need help but isn't quite amazing enough for people to go "wow" than you probably won't get alot of comments.
Just what I've seen around..
Not always the case.
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i agree
hows the camera sitution by the way?
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05/04/2007 02:11:48 PM · #27 |
| i don't want comments ... i wish i could click a box on my submissions so people would know that |
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05/04/2007 02:13:39 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by gi_joe05:
Originally posted by Beautiful-Joe:
I rather enjoy giving comments..
Mainly just to people who need help, though.
If your photo doesn't need help but isn't quite amazing enough for people to go "wow" than you probably won't get alot of comments.
Just what I've seen around..
Not always the case.
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i agree
hows the camera sitution by the way? |
I'm still saving up to get the darn thing repaired.
I took it out of my preferences because I don't believe I'll be using it anytime soon.
Maybe I'll just sell it broken and get me a new lens or two.. |
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05/04/2007 02:14:44 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by smardaz:
....well actually my title says it all, and before anyone hollers at me i know that there are alot of people who give great constructive feedback.
I dont mind getting a low score...i have no delusions about my talent but my april free study is sitting at 4.4 and ZERO comments...If it's that bad can someone at least tell me why? |
The thing is, even though you are on 4.4, it cant be that bad as people only tend to comment on the REALLY good stuff or the REALLY bad stuff.. so you are just a victim of mid-table mediocrity (not saying your shot is mediocre though).. |
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05/04/2007 03:03:21 PM · #30 |
I am of the opinion that extreme high and low votes require justification. If you hit someone with a one or bless them with a 10, you should be required to leave a comment in order for that vote to register. The downside of that would be that folks who would give a 1 or 10 without commenting would just give a 2 or a 9 instead.
I got 3 ones in the rule of thirds challenge, but I received no negative feedback. |
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05/04/2007 03:09:30 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Efergoh:
I got 3 ones in the rule of thirds challenge, but I received no negative feedback. |
I am absolutely astounded that you got any ones, as your entry was absolutely beautiful - one of the real highlights of the challenge. Remain content in the sure knowledge that your photograph, your art - for that is what this one is - has given many people a great deal of enjoyment and pleasure. |
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05/04/2007 03:11:53 PM · #32 |
Made: 1,828
Received: 593
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05/04/2007 03:12:05 PM · #33 |
| My average given from my commenters was 2.0 in RoT. I thought that was pretty nifty! |
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05/04/2007 03:15:59 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
My average given from my commenters was 2.0 in RoT. I thought that was pretty nifty! |
Given that you got 4 comments, a 5 and 3x1? Considering three of them were reasonably positive it does suggest that there were some shennanigens (sic?) going on.... |
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05/04/2007 03:18:36 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by Efergoh:
I got 3 ones in the rule of thirds challenge, but I received no negative feedback. |
I am absolutely astounded that you got any ones, as your entry was absolutely beautiful - one of the real highlights of the challenge. Remain content in the sure knowledge that your photograph, your art - for that is what this one is - has given many people a great deal of enjoyment and pleasure. |
I'm not. I'm sure a few uptight people got freaked out by the nudity. It's stupid, but not surprising. |
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05/04/2007 03:20:35 PM · #36 |
I used to comment on photos, I join Critique Club and then I got PMs questioning my comments. I considered this and as my comments are my opinion, they should not be questioned cos they are what I think of that particular shot. The photog may not agree, but did that give them the right to say I was wrong with what was said in the comment.
As a result, I now very rarely comment, as I don't need the hassle. If no-one comments on my entries, then it obviously wasn't technically brilliant nor rubbish. |
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05/04/2007 03:32:22 PM · #37 |
I left you some comments  smardaz. Sometimes I feel it is just easier to ask for comments than to expect them in a challenge.
For me my priority is:
1) Take pictures
2) Take pictures for challenges
3) Comment on User Profiles who commented on one of my pictures
4) Vote on Entries
5) Comment on my Team Suck group photos
6) Forum requests for comments
7) Comment on Photo Challenge entries
8) Critique Club
All this and not even counting my normal day to day job, hanging out with family/friends, and just enjoying life.
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05/04/2007 04:27:27 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by SaraR:
... I shaln't be leaving any more 'though, as I have just received an e-mail attacking me for what I said in one. |
I got several of those in a row. It definitely cut down on my commenting!
I haven't entered any challenges myself, so some people assume I'm a troll. I've left a few thoughtless comments when cranky, but oddly those aren't the ones that generate attack messages. Generally I've tried to be helpful and not harsh. I take voting responsibility rather seriously. That is, I try to do a good job.
Anyway, my initial impulse is to counter-attack in a withering way, but I withhold and instead either ignore the pm or let the sender know I hadn't meant to be unkind. Usually a kind word from me gets a kind word in return and even an apology from the photographer, who it turns out was also having a bad day, or was drunk, or frustrated, or whatever... |
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05/04/2007 04:43:23 PM · #39 |
I've been trying to vote/comment at the same time, gives me a chance to really check out the picture, and think of a comment. I usually only vote in the evening, when the day is done, so I am not distracted. The last couple challenges I have done this and it seems to work out great for me. I do kinda try to stay away from negative commenting, if a picture is tough to score, or I really don't find it appealing, I will sometimes skip it, or simply give a score of 5 for the effort. I can only recall giving out one 4 in the last three challenges I've voted on, and I think that was because I couldn't figure out if the picure met the challenge. I write a comment and then the score I am giving.
Like I said this system really works for me. |
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05/04/2007 04:48:10 PM · #40 |
If the photo meets the challenge and is the right size, it gets at least a 5.
I really HATE those tiny pics!! If you can't be bothered to get max size allowed, you get a 4.
If you get the size right, but slightly off challenge, it's 4.
Off challenge 3.
Never, ever, ever give out 1 or 2, 3 is very rare.
But I don't comment. You want a comment, ask me. I don't need hassle from PMs. |
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05/04/2007 05:00:43 PM · #41 |
Just when I decided to make more of an effort to comment on the Free Study, I noticed a couple of remarks in the scores thread, quite clearly declaring their comments received were not helpful.
That's a little ungrateful and it's no wonder folk are turned off commenting at all. |
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05/05/2007 10:54:49 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by Efergoh:
I got 3 ones in the rule of thirds challenge, but I received no negative feedback. |
I am absolutely astounded that you got any ones, as your entry was absolutely beautiful - one of the real highlights of the challenge. Remain content in the sure knowledge that your photograph, your art - for that is what this one is - has given many people a great deal of enjoyment and pleasure. |
Thank you, very much. I appreciate that. That photo was included in my final project for my photography class this semester. I got 980 points out of 1000 for the final, so I think I can let those 1 voters slide off my back pretty easy ;)
I just wish that folks who offer low votes had the testicular strength or intestinal fortitude to tell the photographer why they voted that way. I am a full time student, and I sit in a formal critique every week. Negative comments do not bother me in the least. My skin is probably thicker than most, but still. I understand that we all bring our own baggage with us to the table when we view photographs. It is that fresh perspective that aides in the growth of all photographers.
As long as the commenter attacks the message and not the messenger, I will not hold the comments against the commenter.
The same holds true with extreme high votes. If you are really moved by a photo, I want to know why. I want to know what I did right just as much as what I did wrong. |
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05/05/2007 11:00:31 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Efergoh:
Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by Efergoh:
I got 3 ones in the rule of thirds challenge, but I received no negative feedback. |
I am absolutely astounded that you got any ones, as your entry was absolutely beautiful - one of the real highlights of the challenge. Remain content in the sure knowledge that your photograph, your art - for that is what this one is - has given many people a great deal of enjoyment and pleasure. |
Thank you, very much. I appreciate that. That photo was included in my final project for my photography class this semester. I got 980 points out of 1000 for the final, so I think I can let those 1 voters slide off my back pretty easy ;)
I just wish that folks who offer low votes had the testicular strength or intestinal fortitude to tell the photographer why they voted that way. I am a full time student, and I sit in a formal critique every week. Negative comments do not bother me in the least. My skin is probably thicker than most, but still. I understand that we all bring our own baggage with us to the table when we view photographs. It is that fresh perspective that aides in the growth of all photographers.
As long as the commenter attacks the message and not the messenger, I will not hold the comments against the commenter.
The same holds true with extreme high votes. If you are really moved by a photo, I want to know why. I want to know what I did right just as much as what I did wrong. |
This is actually probably an easier case than some others where non-nude images get 1s. Some people don't like nudity. Period (or "full stop" depending on which side of the ocean you live on). If you look through some older challenges and find some shots including nudity, you'll see comments such as (this is from memory, not a direct quote): "The human body is sacred; why would you defile it by putting an image of it here."
There is nothing more to be said, is there? They don't want to see nudity, you had nudity in your shot, they won't like it. You get a 1. Do you really need those comments? I don't think so. From the image itself, I can see you're better than that. Do as you're doing; let the 1s roll off of your back and learn the lesson (just once) that some people's minds are closed.
And keep shooting, please.
Best,
Rob
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05/05/2007 03:34:39 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by rheverly:
...(this is from memory, not a direct quote): "The human body is sacred; why would you defile it by putting an image of it here."
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To remarks like that I generally respond with something like this:
"I agree. The human form is sacred. It is God's greatest creation. Who are we to be ashamed of what God created? After all, it was he himself who put us on this Earth in a nude state."
I'm not a deeply religious person, although I do consider myself Christian. Replies like that don't do much to change the minds of the fire and brimstone crowd, but it does confound them... :)
(edited for spelling)
Message edited by author 2007-05-05 15:36:06. |
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05/05/2007 06:06:06 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Efergoh:
Originally posted by Efergoh:
I got 3 ones in the rule of thirds challenge, but I received no negative feedback. |
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I just wish that folks who offer low votes had the testicular strength or intestinal fortitude to tell the photographer why they voted that way. ... |
I comment as much or more than anyone else at DPC but I rarely comment on images I score 3 or less. (That is usually <2% of the images voted on)
It is not because I lack the courage or fortitude to comment; it is for this simple reason...
Images I score 3 or lower are generally so bad that they are simply beyond help.
In those cases the photographer needs to seek more help than a few off-hand feedback remarks can give. And you know what? I rarely see those folks ask for any help. If they really want to improve you'd see more of them asking for help in the forums.
Note for Efergoh:
I did not realize your comment is because of the 3 1s you got on your first DPC submission. In that case I have a more meaningful reply for you...
You can't figure out why three fringe voters would give your image 1s? Surely someone capable of taking such a great picture can't be that naive. It is more than likely they don't like nudes for this particular challenge and that is as far as it goes. Even I can figure that out. It certainly isn't because of technical flaws in the image.
Furthermore, if three fringe voters tell you why they gave it a 1 do you honestly believe their comments would contribute much to improving your photography? Forget it, its not worth wasting brain cell activity over.
Message edited by author 2007-05-05 18:42:58.
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05/05/2007 06:09:49 PM · #46 |
| Want comments get in on the side challenges. I've left 120+ comments in the last 5 days in the 30 Day BW challenge and there are many, many other people leaving a lot of (helpful) comments as well. |
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05/05/2007 06:25:45 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Want comments get in on the side challenges. I've left 120+ comments in the last 5 days in the 30 Day BW challenge and there are many, many other people leaving a lot of (helpful) comments as well. |
That is a good suggestion. I've never participated in the side challenges, but have heard they are the best source for feeback to improve your photography on the site.
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