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04/29/2007 12:22:07 AM · #1151 |
Do we have any team changes for this week that I should know for Sunday's results?
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04/29/2007 12:25:07 AM · #1152 |
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
I got the dashed lights in a picture before from street lights. You just need to move the camera extremely quickly. And it maybe depends on the type of lights too. |
Ah! And here we are. Took only two attempts with the streetlight outside my house. Started out moving slowly, so the light formed a line, but then moved fast to show the flashes (no, it's not sharp - I didn't even bother focusing):
Colorcarnival: lights usually flash because we use "alternating current" electricity. Instead of the power just coming straight in, it moves back and forth in the wires. Every reversal in direction makes the lights flicker. They just normally flash so quickly that we see them as continuous. By moving the camera really fast, you're essentially putting each flash in a different spot in the frame.
Oh, by the way, I think we had breakfast with you at Disney World back in Feb! :P
Anyway, I owe you one. Turns out the clock on my camera was 5 minutes fast. I only discovered that because I took those shots across what the camera thought was midnight, so the Canon Camera Window utility dumped them into different dated folders. I corrected the time. :)
Aren't the other suckers going to be in for a surprise when they wake up to this large number of posts. ;)
Message edited by author 2007-04-29 00:28:23.
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04/29/2007 12:30:38 AM · #1153 |
I started a reply then lost it so I hope this does not show up twice.
ANYWAY - thanks for refreshing my memory. I thought you looked familiar and I thoroughly enjoyed dining with you and your family. lol
So this princess needs her beauty rest and is headed off to her royal chamber.
Thanks for all the research and analysis. I will look forward to seeing what else there is in the morning!
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04/29/2007 12:33:55 AM · #1154 |
| I'm in Triptych it's nothing fancy but it's my first attempt at a triptych so I learned some things and that's always cool. |
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04/29/2007 12:45:24 AM · #1155 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
I got the dashed lights in a picture before from street lights. You just need to move the camera extremely quickly. And it maybe depends on the type of lights too. |
Ah! And here we are. Took only two attempts with the streetlight outside my house. Started out moving slowly, so the light formed a line, but then moved fast to show the flashes (no, it's not sharp - I didn't even bother focusing):
Colorcarnival: lights usually flash because we use "alternating current" electricity. Instead of the power just coming straight in, it moves back and forth in the wires. Every reversal in direction makes the lights flicker. They just normally flash so quickly that we see them as continuous. By moving the camera really fast, you're essentially putting each flash in a different spot in the frame.
Oh, by the way, I think we had breakfast with you at Disney World back in Feb! :P
Anyway, I owe you one. Turns out the clock on my camera was 5 minutes fast. I only discovered that because I took those shots across what the camera thought was midnight, so the Canon Camera Window utility dumped them into different dated folders. I corrected the time. :)
Aren't the other suckers going to be in for a surprise when they wake up to this large number of posts. ;) |
But how do you explain the fact that it is in between the camera and the headstones...since it was on a tripod.
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04/29/2007 12:53:49 AM · #1156 |
Originally posted by Wildcard:
I'm in Triptych it's nothing fancy but it's my first attempt at a triptych so I learned some things and that's always cool. |
This will be my first attempt as well, good luck!!
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04/29/2007 12:56:29 AM · #1157 |
Originally posted by jackal9:
Originally posted by Wildcard:
I'm in Triptych it's nothing fancy but it's my first attempt at a triptych so I learned some things and that's always cool. |
This will be my first attempt as well, good luck!! |
I'm so excited about Tryptich :) Good luck to everyone! |
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04/29/2007 01:05:48 AM · #1158 |
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
Originally posted by jackal9:
Originally posted by Wildcard:
I'm in Triptych it's nothing fancy but it's my first attempt at a triptych so I learned some things and that's always cool. |
This will be my first attempt as well, good luck!! |
I'm so excited about Tryptich :) Good luck to everyone! |
Thanks!! you too, I hope all your time invested pays off!!
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04/29/2007 01:08:06 AM · #1159 |
Originally posted by jackal9:
Thanks!! you too, I hope all your time invested pays off!! |
Oh, it has - I love the pictures I ended up with :D
(a nice score would just be an added bonus) |
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04/29/2007 01:11:18 AM · #1160 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by klstover:
It's funny.. a bit ago I was going through my old challenge entries, and I realized that I was out of the box before I even knew about being out of the box. Makes me happy about how I've "stayed true to my vision" or some such significant-sounding thing. LOL :-D |
I count on you to do so, Kelly. If you start taking crisp pictures of mountains, bugs, flowers, or Washington's monuments, DPC will be a poorer place. |
That's... wow, that's really happy. Thank you. |
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04/29/2007 01:42:33 AM · #1161 |
Hey, for you PS users, here's a nice trick for sizing those triptychs evenly if you're doing some cropping:
1) Figure out what size works for one of your shots. Don't bother resizing, just find something that looks good.
2) Note the dimensions of that shot.
3) Choose the marquee selection tool. See the "style" dropdown selection box at the top of the screen? Set it to "fixed size" and then enter the dimensions of your first picture.
Then you can go into your other two pics and when you click with the marquee tool, it'll automatically select a box that's exactly the same size. You can then move that box around to find the composition you like.
This isn't perfect, but it's a starting point.
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04/29/2007 01:49:18 AM · #1162 |
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
Originally posted by jackal9:
Thanks!! you too, I hope all your time invested pays off!! |
Oh, it has - I love the pictures I ended up with :D
(a nice score would just be an added bonus) |
Thats the spirit!! that's how I look at most everything I shoot, high scores are nice but if I like it that's just an added bonus!!
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04/29/2007 01:52:33 AM · #1163 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Hey, for you PS users, here's a nice trick for sizing those triptychs evenly if you're doing some cropping:
1) Figure out what size works for one of your shots. Don't bother resizing, just find something that looks good.
2) Note the dimensions of that shot.
3) Choose the marquee selection tool. See the "style" dropdown selection box at the top of the screen? Set it to "fixed size" and then enter the dimensions of your first picture.
Then you can go into your other two pics and when you click with the marquee tool, it'll automatically select a box that's exactly the same size. You can then move that box around to find the composition you like.
This isn't perfect, but it's a starting point. |
Thanks Jeffrey! I will give that a try!
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04/29/2007 05:05:20 AM · #1164 |
Caution: meaningless rant.
I'm having a misery day, I just don't think I'm cut out to be a photographer. I look at the awesome talent on this site and look at where I am and wonder what the hell I thought I was doing deciding to study photography. I don't seem to be getting the art school thing at all, so far I find it creatively crippling and my images don't "mean" anything but I don't know what to take that would have some deeper meaning. I'm not allowed to photograph landscapes, kids, animals or anything that has been seen before, I can't seem to find what's left.Everything I do seems to me to be as boring as bat shit. Pretty much I'm realising that I really do suck but not in a good way. It's costing me a fortune and it seems to be money wasted at this point. I'm Sorry I just needed to rant...ignore me...I'll just sit in the corner 'til I'm over it.
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04/29/2007 05:44:23 AM · #1165 |
There's a wonderful little truism that works so well in Norwegian - It's only when the slope's against you that you're going upwards. There must be all sorts of different art schools, but I know that in a lot of them a great deal of time (maybe a year or a semester, but it then has to run thematically through the school) is spent breaking down students' perception, or perception strategies. In some cases students are given questions such as: which of these colours is the most pink? The question has no correct answer. Twenty years of schooling with points and stars for the right answer suddenly go out of the window.
It's ever so mildly contradictory to say that meaning has no meaning (oxymoronic, if I can get it right), but - and I'm only guessing as far as your situation is concerned - the condition and quality of a picture and the craft involved in creating it are things that are entirely separate from meaning.
And it's definitely a waste of money, but you can't take it with you...
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04/29/2007 06:57:32 AM · #1166 |
| Bobbie, For what it's worth, I love your work-it's visually stimulating and surprising-never boring. Perhaps you got a particularly bad instructor? Some photographers are good teachers and some should never step into a classroom.-Mary |
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04/29/2007 07:16:05 AM · #1167 |
Bobbie ... if your images are boring, then I am Anjolina Joli !
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04/29/2007 07:20:15 AM · #1168 |
It seems like easy advice to give, but - I'd just try and relax and not worry about it too much if I were you. Whatever else happens, the technical skills you'll pick up *will* improve your photos and *will* give you more possibilities, accuracy, all sorts of things.
As to the meaning and originality - that's something completely different. With any means of self-expression (be it music, photography, writing, whatever), you find that sometimes it really clicks and flows out of you, whereas sometimes it seems really impossible, everything you try and create seems dull and unoriginal, and you can't for the life of you remember how you used to do it or decide how to fix it. That's natural. It goes away at some point. You might not take an interesting photo in weeks or months, then one day you'll be walking down the road, a bird will fly past, you'll see something that moves you, an idea will pop into your head, and you'll have 'it' back, whatever 'it' is.
But whatever happens, to do photos justice, you NEED technical skills. The most meaningful idea in the world will quickly be destroyed by something like blur, noise and bad lighting. So just stick with the school and see where it takes you... |
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04/29/2007 07:37:04 AM · #1169 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Purple, you inspired me, so I followed behind you, adding my own comments to several you commented on.
Posthumous, seeing purple's mammoth task, perhaps it's time to clean out the non-active members? Maybe send 'em a PM asking whether they still want to be included?
Edited to add that I'd be happy to help. :) |
There is no definition of what a non-active member is - non-active in the Suck League? - non-active in dpchallenge? - non-active portfolio? This is not the same thing.
My impression is-it doesn't matter as long as a team has three challenge submitters during a week. If a team has trouble doing this, new members can be recruited. |
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04/29/2007 09:08:33 AM · #1170 |
Originally posted by Wildcard:
my images don't "mean" anything but I don't know what to take that would have some deeper meaning. ...I'm not allowed to photograph landscapes, kids, animals or anything that has been seen before, I can't seem to find what's left.Everything I do seems to me to be as boring as bat shit. Pretty much I'm realising that I really do suck but not in a good way. |
sounds to me like you're on the artist's way. :) these are the issues that all artists must struggle with. You're "realisation" is a false one. questioning yourself, questioning meaning, questioning worth... this is the existential abyss from which inspiration blooms. |
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04/29/2007 09:15:49 AM · #1171 |
 Wildcard I can't imagine there's a sucker among us who has not experienced the "where is my art going, if anywhere?" feelings of mixed consternation and emptiness. Usually I've found that my inspiration takes a leap to a new level after a period of such feelings. It's almost as if I can't achieve a new level without said period of bleakness / searching. |
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04/29/2007 10:34:15 AM · #1172 |
Thank you Team Suck for providing a place to seek solace and lick my wounds amidst people who understand what I'm talking about and care enough to give me a hand up.
 raish I'll remember your Norwegian truism and be encouraged that the climb seems do steep at the moment. As for this "And it's definitely a waste of money, but you can't take it with you.." You made me laugh, thank you.
quiet_observation Your opinion is always worth a lot, I learn so much from you. Thanks for the encouragement. My instructors are great, I had one that scared me so I switched classes, I think I'm just my own harshest critic. I guess what triggered all this was the big group critique of assignments and I noticed that my images are very, very different from the kids and I suddenly felt very alone. Well to be truthful I sat in the middle of the hall singing to myself " One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong" LOL I'm a sorry case.
 Greetmir Angelina Jolie should be flattered at the analogy.
purpleflutterby13 You're right of course the technical skills I'm learning are important and I really do need them :D You're also right about the ebb and flow of creativity, it's just so hard to remember during the dry spells that "it" will come back...I hope. Thanks for the reminder.
posthumous "questioning yourself, questioning meaning, questioning worth... this is the existential abyss from which inspiration blooms." If it's OK with you I'm going to write this on a card for myself and read it often for awhile, somehow an existential abyss seems to speak of brilliance about to burst forth, it's much more encouraging than terminal suckiness. Thank you.
noraneko Thank you, I forgot in midst of the emptiness that it is usually a stepping stone to "getting it" and a new level. I can't see it right now but I'll hold onto that thought.
alans_world Thank you so much for taking the time to go to my portfolio and comment on one of my images and for your belief in me. I like the exercise you set :D I'll borrow a big Manfrotto from school so I can go back and shoot there again and I'll post the result.
So now that you've all talked me into continuing and reminded me that this feeling is probably temporary I'm wondering how to photograph this "dark night of the soul" who knows perhaps I'll end up with a folio full of images from the Existential Abyss. Heh sounds a bit depressing but maybe it'll be interesting to stop trying to think of something good to photograph and just capture what is. All the while striving for technical perfection, OK I really do suck at technical perfection.
Once again thank you all, you have given me hope. |
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04/29/2007 10:37:39 AM · #1173 |
Originally posted by Wildcard:
If it's OK with you I'm going to write this on a card for myself and read it often for awhile |
Hold on... let me check with my ego... hmm... based on the little dance it's doing on my cerebral cortex I would say that yes, it is indeed okay. |
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04/29/2007 10:46:57 AM · #1174 |
Are you looking at the talent on this site or the votes you receive in a challenge to make this statement about your ability to be a photographer. I look at your work and I see nothing wrong with what you have there. I see someone who is searching for personal expression and who is using her work to convey emotion and nostalgia. What exactly do you want your photos to "mean"? I look at my photos and some I have tried to convey emotion, others i was experimenting, and a few I was simply recording a moment. Ultimately, it's all about fun for me.
The only way you are not really meant to be a photographer is if you are not enjoying holding the camera, looking thru the viewfinder, pressing the shutter, and looking at what shows up on the screen. I suspect otherwise in your case. ;)
Originally posted by Wildcard:
Caution: meaningless rant.
I'm having a misery day, I just don't think I'm cut out to be a photographer. I look at the awesome talent on this site and look at where I am and wonder what the hell I thought I was doing deciding to study photography. I don't seem to be getting the art school thing at all, so far I find it creatively crippling and my images don't "mean" anything but I don't know what to take that would have some deeper meaning. I'm not allowed to photograph landscapes, kids, animals or anything that has been seen before, I can't seem to find what's left.Everything I do seems to me to be as boring as bat shit. Pretty much I'm realising that I really do suck but not in a good way. It's costing me a fortune and it seems to be money wasted at this point. I'm Sorry I just needed to rant...ignore me...I'll just sit in the corner 'til I'm over it. |
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04/29/2007 10:47:37 AM · #1175 |
| LOL thank you posthumous. |
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