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04/13/2007 01:09:29 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by eschelar: I had a chance to muck about with another shooter's D80 on Wednesday night and I will repeat what I have said before. The Nikon 50mm f/1.8 is more expensive than the Canon variant and worth every stinkin' penny. It's truly a sweet lens. I would never even consider using a Nikon for any length of time without one...
I also used her 18-200 f/3.5-who really cares VR II blah blah lens.
Sure it was kinda cool to have such a huge range and be able to shoot wide without changing lenses (I was shooting about 15 feet behind her with my 80-200 f/2.8L), but shooting a series of student stage performances (read: crap for lighting 80% of the time), I think I would have considered taking a sledge hammer to that thing at anything beyond 70mm... I was hand-holding my camera, shooting at ISO 1000. She was shooting ISO 1600, but anything that wasn't shot wide open was junk. I came away with around 40% usable shots numbering around 250. She came away with around 15-20% usable shots, numbering around 40. She didn't have a single close-up that worked. I've got almost 100 head shots.
Both of us would have done better if we had teamed up beforehand and she had been using a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8.
And while on the subject of that lens, there's proof that you CAN get a very good f/2.8 constant in a good range on a nice lens for much less than 1000 bucks.
Of course, given some better lighting, this wouldn't have been an issue at all. Shooting outdoors, stopping that 18-200 VR down to f/8 should yield some excellent results. I paid good money for glass that lets me shoot in situations where stopping down simply isn't an option. |
18-200 VR 1/30 - f/5.6 - ISO 1600 not that anyone bothers to give me credit for the pictures, mind...
Indoors with the 50mm prime. |
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04/13/2007 01:14:27 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
If you have/willing to spend the money, get the Nikon version. |
Why the Tokina is just as good. I have looked at all the specs and comparisons and I see no reason to spend the extra money.
Message edited by author 2007-04-13 13:15:22. |
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04/13/2007 01:57:52 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Rebecca: Well, after looking everything over and comparing prices and whatnot since no, I'm not rich, I'm looking at the Tokina super wide and, for fun because I'm like that, a Lensbaby 2.0. Heh... I have to keep in mind that I need some other accessories too, like a polarizer, and lens hood, and a much nicer tripod.
Thanks for the help everyone! So many threads here are "what lens is best?" and then people post a string of numbers and letters that meant absolutely nothing to me without any explanation as to how to decode it. |
Sigma makes a nice 18-200 that is now available with OS (optical stabilization, like Nikon's VR or Canon's IS) Its not a fast lens, if you will do a lot of low-light shooting, look at the f/2.8 lenses in the 18-50 range or look at fast primes. |
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04/13/2007 04:41:57 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo: Originally posted by Azrifel:
If you have/willing to spend the money, get the Nikon version. |
Why the Tokina is just as good. I have looked at all the specs and comparisons and I see no reason to spend the extra money. |
I have shot with both and like to shoot at the largest aperture. I prefer the Nikon, but it costs too much. The Tokina has a good price/performance ratio, the Nikon is just a tad better. Extreme wide is not where I want to spend my money, so I got a Tokina.
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04/13/2007 04:43:38 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Azrifel: Originally posted by thegrandwazoo: Originally posted by Azrifel:
If you have/willing to spend the money, get the Nikon version. |
Why the Tokina is just as good. I have looked at all the specs and comparisons and I see no reason to spend the extra money. |
I have shot with both and like to shoot at the largest aperture. I prefer the Nikon, but it costs too much. The Tokina has a good price/performance ratio, the Nikon is just a tad better. Extreme wide is not where I want to spend my money, so I got a Tokina. |
Gotcha! Yeah I am with you! The price/performance ratio makes the Tokina a no-brainer.
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04/13/2007 09:16:48 PM · #31 |
Sailor dog, Existing light in the galley of a sail boat at night, 1600 ISO (sensor sensitivity) shutter 1/90 sec, f/ 1.4 hand held. The 1.4 has wonderful shallow depth of field for this kind of shots.
Pawn shop lens, Nikkor 50mm Manual Focus, f1.4, 1973model. It came with leather hard case and metal Nikon lens shade. Price $ 20 US.
The glass is what counts, not the price.
Message edited by author 2007-04-13 21:20:05.
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