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04/10/2007 07:10:03 PM · #1 |
Shame on CBS (radio) and NBC (TV) for silencing Don Imus. Even if you don't listen to or watch him, he's certainly in the news this week for a comment about the Rutgers womens basketball team.
"Nappy-headed hos" was the phrase. A little tasteless? Sure. Funny? Eh. BUT....
That's for me to decide not Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. There is a true silent majority in this country that is getting tired of Politically Correct being shoved in our faces. The Sharptonites are a relatively small group but never miss a photo op.
This is the same Don that openly grills politicians on his show with no question off limits. Its the same show where his cast member Bernard McGuirk plays NYC Cardinal Egan with a Fedex envelope on his head for a Mitre and no vocal opposition.
If you don't like Don, don't tune him in, its that simple.
Since MSNBC (GE) has decided to take Imus away for 2 weeks, I have decided to vote with my feet. I have taken CNBC (a sister station) off the TV's in the Financial Services Firm I own. I'm sure we can get by with Bloomberg TV just fine. I for one will support those who dont cave in to censorship.
As for Rev. Al and his Sharptonites - there are many of us who are getting tired of your act and your army of PC Thought Police.
And to Don Imus. As much as I would miss you - tell them to kiss your a*s and go to satelite. |
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04/10/2007 07:54:35 PM · #2 |
Well said, mate.
Imus is known for saying it however he likes, and this isn't the first time he's gotten in trouble. But the fact remains that if you don't like him, don't listen. No one is forcing you to. It's that simple, folks. I'm not supporting him for saying it, it was tasteless. But for certain figureheads to pounce on him for it in the name of the public is pure arrogance on their part. They're pouncing for their own agendas.
Political Correctness became a cheap replacement for simple manners and common sense, and now it's crammed down our throats more than ever. And as  photodude said, some of us are getting mighty sick of it.
Message edited by author 2007-04-10 20:04:33.
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04/10/2007 08:45:28 PM · #3 |
| Count me sick of it as well. Not a fan of Imus. Less of a fan of what he said. But more concerned about controlling speech and that political correctness is favored over truth, honesty and the free exchange of ideas. Also sick of the double standard applied. Condoleeza Rice was ridiculed and lampooned by liberals in a very racist manner and nobody in the media to my knowledge was fired. |
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04/10/2007 08:54:19 PM · #4 |
| here here ! I agree - too much damn censorship |
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04/10/2007 09:15:47 PM · #5 |
I sent a letter to MSNBC telling of my disapproval of their censoring thought police political correctness caving actions.
-jp, nappy-headed polack ho
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04/10/2007 09:49:13 PM · #6 |
Freedom of speech is not a defense against liable and slander. Freedom of speech does not, and has never protected a persons right to insult another. It protects a persons ability to say what they want -- but not all of the ways there are to say it. While I don't subscribe to the "if you can't say anything good, don't say anything at all" ideal; there are effective ways to express a disparaging opinion without embarrasing oneself with such verbal masterpieces as "nappy-headed hos".
Sorry, but your view is taking the matter just as far in your direction as those you are opposed to are taking it in theirs. There are no freedoms lost and no thoughts policed by insisting on a bare minimum of civility.
David
/edit: censored myself! :P
Message edited by author 2007-04-10 21:52:07.
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04/10/2007 09:54:23 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by alfresco:
-jp, nappy-headed polack ho |
How much do you charge? |
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04/10/2007 09:58:37 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by David.C:
Freedom of speech does not, and has never protected a persons right to insult another. |
Jerry Fawell would agree with you. Larry Flint and the Supreme Court would not.
You are free to say what you want. Society is free to castigate you for doing so. |
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04/10/2007 09:59:51 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by alfresco:
-jp, nappy-headed polack ho |
How much do you charge? |
Being a nappy-headed polack ho I only accept compensation in perogies and vodka.
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04/10/2007 10:02:08 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by alfresco:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by alfresco:
-jp, nappy-headed polack ho |
How much do you charge? |
Being a nappy-headed polack ho I only accept compensation in perogies and vodka. |
Now I think I don't wanna know what services you offer ;) |
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04/10/2007 10:02:39 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
You are free to say what you want. Society is free to castigate you for doing so. |
Well said. |
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04/10/2007 10:11:10 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by photodude:
"Nappy-headed hos" was the phrase. A little tasteless? Sure. Funny? Eh. BUT....
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BUT, if it was your daughter being called a "whore" by a well known "personality" you might be first in line calling for his head. I say might because I don't know you and couldn't say for sure. Just leave the race card out it for a minute. Where has every one's sense of decency gone? Does he know any one of these young women? Does he know that they accept money for sex? Can he prove it? I think he's getting off easy! I say ten lawsuits (or however many are on the team) should be suing his pants off right now. If it was my daughter he was talking about I would be furious! |
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04/10/2007 10:22:37 PM · #13 |
I highly doubt that it was solely Sharpton and Jackson's collective blathering that resulted in the suspension, after all, they don't put money in the pockets of the networks. That's the role of the sponsors. I'm sure the sponsors love the attention they get from being associated in Imus' listener's minds. However, now since he's, once again, put his foot in his mouth, the last thing they want is for their product to be associated with a pariah. I'd bet that a large percentage of the sponsors were immediately on the horn to the networks, raising Cain about Imus' behavior and that is what led to his suspension, and, ultimately may lead to his firing.
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04/11/2007 08:36:08 PM · #14 |
At least some good news today. Rev. Al lost one. The Duke Lacrosse kids were freed today - charges dropped. Of course not before spending at least tens of thousands on legal fees, and having their college careers disrupted.
The poor Duke coach was fired and is now coaching at what is relatively a minor league school. The rest of the team had their season cancelled last year.
Is Duke University going to apologize for being politically correct? Of course not. Duke ought to figure out who pays their bills - its not the locals in downtown Durham. Will the media now publish the name of the "accuser"?
So here's to Rev. Al and the Sharptonites. We beat you. |
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04/12/2007 08:14:12 AM · #15 |
And the "new" congressional leadership want to pass a fairness doctrine to surpress their opposition too. It is so one sided. I hate P.C.
What I really miss are good blond jokes, homosexual jokes, ethnic jokes, handicapped jokes, funny jokes, religeous jokes, optomists, playboys in men's rooms, girlie calendars in a auto shop, and other fun stuff. Did I affend someone, good...get a life....:)
Message edited by author 2007-04-12 08:15:05. |
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04/12/2007 08:19:46 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by various news sources:
Companies ranging from Procter & Gamble, Staples, GM, Sprint, General Motors and Staples have all pulled their advertisements from "Imus in the Morning" after Don Imus' outburst on his April 4 show.
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i think this was a much more powerful message than either jesse jackson OR al sharpton. if you really want to do something about censorship in this country, support your local (or national) public broadcasting outlet and boycott networks that are in the pockets of large corporations.
this isn't a case of censorship so much as it is about $$. |
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04/12/2007 08:34:24 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
this isn't a case of censorship so much as it is about $$. |
Bingo. Now MSNBC has dropped him from the television show.
Right now MSNBC is taking calls and interviewing select people to get their thoughts and just finished up with Robert Johnson - BET's founder. He asked Johnson why he condemns Imus while he himself personally oversees the music videos that are played on his network - most of which are many times worse that what Imus said. Johnson's response was that artists and comedians should have free artistic expression. He feels that they should do less of it but that they shouldn't be punished for expressing themselves. WTF?
Fankly, I don't like Imus but this is just friggin ridiculous. Am I missing anything?
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04/12/2007 08:35:52 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Fankly, I don't like Imus but this is just friggin ridiculous. Am I missing anything? |
Nope |
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04/12/2007 09:01:17 AM · #19 |
I find DPC is just the same, ie locking a thread for trash-talking about winning a ribbon because it's considered not politically correct by Bear_Music.
I think some people just get off by thinking they're holier-than-thou.
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04/12/2007 02:37:33 PM · #20 |
One point that I would make is about the phrase political correctness.
Political correctness has developed a couple of meanings.
The one that people object to is political correctness "gone mad" - for example, calling a blackboard a chalkboard. This is indeed objectionable: blackboards are blackboards because they are black boards. There is no negative connotation re the word "black" - it is descriptive.
However, rejecting the use of slurs, or refraining from using words or actions that have genuine and negative connotations about a class of people in a significant place or manner, is political correctness gone right. There should be no place for it in modern society.
Applying my opinion to vtruan's examples, the jokes are not objectionable in the right environment, one where equality doesn't matter (like a comedy club - but not the workplace). However, I do think that in the era of gender equality that the girlie calendars have had their day in any workplace!
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04/12/2007 03:21:42 PM · #21 |
Hypocricy is an irritant for me - in many forms, not just speech. I do find it particularly hipocritic of the "Black" community to jump on this particular statement when a "gangsta" lifestyle is glorified by some of the hottest Hip Hop artists today.
Don Imus was inconsiderate to use the phrase he used. He has apoligised numerous times - even going on Al Sharpton's radio show to do so. He is meeting with the team he offended (imo) to personally apologize to each of them.
The rest of this story should be between the advertisers and the listeners. Those vocally calling for his firing, will themselves stumble. I pray that they get the same measure they metted out.
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04/12/2007 09:03:21 PM · #22 |
The battlelines are clearly drawn. With Imus and the Duke Lacrosse Victims in the news, it's clear that the Sharptonites will stop at nothing to push their agenda.
For me there is no more compromise, no more complacency, no more apologies, no more concessions. I will not give them one more inch.
I will oppose them and their supporters on every and any issue. And to the corporations who supported them, I will go out of my way to avoid your products and services. |
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04/12/2007 09:11:45 PM · #23 |
If the OP wasnt white then maybe id agree with his post. Then again al sharpton needs to take a permenant vacation.
IMUS had his 30 year run. They should cancel him for just being dated.
Message edited by author 2007-04-12 21:12:28. |
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04/12/2007 10:31:33 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
BUT, if it was your daughter being called a "whore" by a well known "personality" you might be first in line calling for his head. |
I honestly have to disagree with you there. Here's a guy who is spouting off some blithering nonsense about girls he has never met in his life and presumably has only ever seen on TV. I doubt very much he would even recognize a single one of them if he met one of the girls in person.
Would I be thrilled to hear such a comment aimed at a group to which my daughter belonged? No, I wouldn't... but would I go all bezerk, hold protests and call for his head? No, I wouldn't go to any extreme like that either.
Why? Anyone with a brain knows that Imus is making an ignorant, blanket statement with no real reasoning behind it. ("Ho," being short for whore, implies that these girls are slutty... does anyone really think that Imus has insider knowledge about each of the girls' sexual behavior?)
The guy is a shock jock. Any reasonable person knows he says "shocking things." While I can't blame these girls for saying that they're upset by his comments, I think they and the Al Sharptons of the world are going waaaaay overboard by claiming that they're scarred for life.
If you're that easily scarred for life, you're gonna have lots of scars by the time you're dead.
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04/13/2007 07:08:56 PM · #25 |
When I was a kid it seemed every time I would pick on my brother in my grandmother's presence, I would almost immediately afterward stub my toe or bang my elbow by accident. She would then comment that "God was punishing me"
Yesterday, NJ Governor Corzine, was rushing to Rutgers University to be at a meeting between Don Imus and the Rutgers Womens basketball team. That's just what we all needed, another limosine liberal politician rushing to jump on the Sharptonite, Politically Correct bandwagon. That meeting was a private matter between the two parties and not a concern of the state government. Well the limo crashed and the Governor was seriously injured. Maybe my grandmother was right.
And BTW, Governor Corzine, seat belt use in NJ is mandatory, you should have buckled up. Hope you feel better. |
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