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04/04/2007 11:57:13 PM · #51
I agree about the comments part. I know what I like/don't like, but I don't feel experienced enough to always comment on it. Also, sometimes when I think I have valid points, (this really distracted me) is when the comments don't seem to be "helpful".

Scott, your image with your daughter is truly breath-taking. Like Ches though, it's a joke for me to try to capture such a wonderful moment. But I'm hopeful, and after seeing yours, I'll just keep trying! As I tell my 4yo, "Practice makes Perfect". But only time will tell....

04/05/2007 12:40:18 AM · #52
I don't know if my kid is really different than any body else's. She is extremely difficult to hold a pose also. That photo of her was actually taken after she was all ready for bed one night. She was even in her pajamas! So it was a treat for her at the time to not have to go to bed right away but be able to stay up late and help daddy for a bit.
04/05/2007 12:44:30 AM · #53
Kids are always tough to photograph. Many years ago I worked as the photographer at a local studio doing almost nothing but kids. Most of the time I ended up being nothing more than a clown. Now the only kids I shoot are my own or my best friends. They do offer endless possiblities, however, getting them to cooperate is another matter.
04/05/2007 10:11:35 PM · #54
Good ideas from you guys. I'll try to keep those in mind. (1) wear them down (2) act like a clown. Right up my alley! But really, I must keep those in mind. So busy being Mom around them, probably takes over the photographer I'd like to become, huh?
04/06/2007 12:19:38 PM · #55
BOO!

It's way to quiet in here.
04/06/2007 02:19:49 PM · #56
I think we've been rejected here too! lol
04/06/2007 03:27:13 PM · #57
These stolen image threads are getting me down.
They're upsetting the voters, somebody gave me a 3.

04/06/2007 04:46:34 PM · #58
I know what you mean, James. I never worry about someone stealing my images, but I did delete the ones I could of my girls. The thread that talked about stolen images of kids on that porn site thing really freaked me out. But I'm sure your work will recover from the 3 vote. You do really nice things with your images!
04/06/2007 05:00:35 PM · #59
You're too kind Charlene.
If you think I do nice things with my images, wait until you see the nice things my wife has me doing for her image this week.
She says I need to suffer for her art.
04/06/2007 07:30:26 PM · #60
James, you continue to make me laugh! Although I did show Dan, my husband, your "suffer for my art" business. He smiled, took down a list, and will be heading to the hardware store after the girls are down! I need all the help I can get these days! : )
04/06/2007 08:41:34 PM · #61
My poor mate is on the receiving end of "Suffer for my art" too. He's got a long long honey do list, and a short time to complete it.

Starting with a soft box.
then light stands
Backdrop support
and finally difusers
04/06/2007 08:42:28 PM · #62
I need to make a honey do list like that! Mind if I borrow yours?
04/06/2007 08:45:37 PM · #63
Ya'll can probably help me!

We're thinking the soft box can be made with a cube frame made out of PVC Pipe... then sew some silk to tie onto the sides and top.

Light stands too if we can find the right joints to create a tripod at the bottom.

I just ordered a 10x16 black muslin background for portraits! should be an interesting april.
04/06/2007 08:57:28 PM · #64
C'Anne, it sounds like you are on the right track. I personally do not have the mental capability to think up stuff like that, so good for you if you do. I'll be looking forward to seeing some of your shots this month!
04/06/2007 08:57:48 PM · #65
Originally posted by chesire:

Ya'll can probably help me!

We're thinking the soft box can be made with a cube frame made out of PVC Pipe... then sew some silk to tie onto the sides and top.

Light stands too if we can find the right joints to create a tripod at the bottom.

I just ordered a 10x16 black muslin background for portraits! should be an interesting april.


Light stands sound like an interesting problem....
How about those heavy bases they use for sun umbrellas?
Find a size PVC that fits and then a neck-down connector( easier to find) to a size PVC pipe that works with your light clamps.
An other option would be a Xmas tree stand.

On another note, I just found a couple of strange things at a Goodwill store, was told they were for drying sweaters. They are collapsable spider-like frames with a stretchy net fabric material top. I'm lining them with sections of a space blanket to make reflectors out of them.

(pics to follow, sometime)
04/06/2007 09:17:34 PM · #66
My "deal" with my husband was to complete the 30 day portrait challenge. Assuming I do, then we go full steam ahead on incresing my
s kills/knowldge and equpment to turn this expensive hobby into a possible career change.

So comments are VERY welcome.

I canceled all my game subscriptions, and kept Vista on my new puter so that I can't run games...Very new for me... I'm going through withdrawl. but I have a lot of new pictures :)
04/06/2007 09:30:36 PM · #67
Oh my gosh! So much of these past posts sound so foreign to me!
04/06/2007 10:42:12 PM · #68
Originally posted by dcnfarrell:

Oh my gosh! So much of these past posts sound so foreign to me!


If you have questions , just fire away.
04/06/2007 11:25:41 PM · #69
Originally posted by dcnfarrell:

I agree about the comments part. I know what I like/don't like, but I don't feel experienced enough to always comment on it. Also, sometimes when I think I have valid points, (this really distracted me) is when the comments don't seem to be "helpful".


Hi guys.....I like your attitude!

I hope you don't mind if I hijack the thread for a few sentences to throw in some encouragement.

I'm a member of Team Suck and I remember a lot of this conversation.

Here's some of what we came to realize.

When commenting.....it's not about your photographic skills that enable you to comment........what the photographer wants is your honest, visceral reaction to his/her work.

Did the shot move you, touch you, make you think, laugh cry, feel fear or love?

Did it do nothing, did it make you say "Hmmm..."?

You're all eminently qualified to describe *your* reaction to the shot and to try to explain how and why you reacted, or not, the way that you did.

You can like the way that the soft light from a window takes the edge off a craggy face, or that you really like the crisp azure of a lovely island beach shot, or the softness of a macro flower shot that's so crisp you can see the pollen on the petals.

These are all helpful comments to the photographer, especially if you try to explain why.

When I was first here, I saw a shot in the first challenge I entered that just blew me away and touched me to the core of my being.

I PM'd the photographer, took a deep breath, and poured out how deeply it moved me and what a truly spectacular shot I thought it was, and inmstantaneously acquired a true friend and a mentor who did wonders for me since I've been here.

When I found Team Suck, there were people there who understood what I feel, have the same skills and experience, the same lack thereof, and the undying passion that brought us here in trhe first place.

One of the Team Suck members started this group, too!

I was a member ;til a short time ago, yet am still a supporter.

So......on top of all this.....shoot for yourselves, get each other involved, support and help each other through your commentary, as honest as possible, yet not brutal, and above all......have FUN!!!!

My first score was in August of last year, and it was an abysmal 3.8851.

Now my average is 5.0003, and I have three 6+ scores on my profile page, two above 6.5.

EVERYTHING on my profile page is since joining Team Suck in January!

Oh, by all means stop by the TS Clubhouse any ol' time for a chat, fun, or questions.
04/07/2007 08:42:43 AM · #70
I know Jeb's right.

I sent out I think three pms one morning, because I was frustrated at being ignored. Now I don't really think anyone was ignoreing as much as overlooking because I haven't been vocal enough to attract notice.

From those three pms, this started. In less than 18 hours there were 7 of us in here committed. That is amazing. Some of you are much further along in your quest to be photographers than the rest, but we all have the same goal I think.

What I want is to be able to capture the beauty I see. The smile on a child's face, the beauty of an unfettered animal. The dew on a thirsty petal. I know that's in all of us, not necessarily the same subject matter, but the need to get across what you see. We have an opportunity to do it here.

So onward... as the t-shirt says. I reject your reality and replace my own. We are what we are... now let's have fun!
04/07/2007 09:34:06 AM · #71
I've been quietly sitting back and watching what others on the team were saying about their level of photography. Its been an intresting read so far. My story is this, I've been shooting freelance for almost 15 yrs. I recieved my education about photography from the Navy. I was a combat photographer for 4 yrs onboard the USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67). I got into digital about 3 yrs ago due mainly to the fact that digital could no longer be ingnored my me and how I run my business. Then I found this site. Its been fun and am now going on my second year here. I haven't really been into the whole score thing but about learning more about my craft. My work here is only a very small portion of my work and most everything here is not work related. However the skiing stuff is from work. Rejects, if you need anything from me, pick my brain. I will help in anyway I can.

Chris
Proud to be a reject.
04/07/2007 10:00:46 AM · #72
Its nice to see the amount of commrodery developing here.

Cryan, must remember you and the ski pics, need advice on cold weather shooting.


04/07/2007 10:28:49 AM · #73
My advise for cold weather shooting, stay warm. JK:) Let me know what you want to know and I will help. It really isn't very hard to prepare for. Remember, proper planning prevents piss poor performance.
04/07/2007 10:36:28 AM · #74
I'm getting lots of great information here! Glad everyone is starting to make themselves known. I'm an obvious ameteur, but I am persistant and am very interested in becoming better. I have never had any formal photography training. What I know I've read in books or online. So I'm pretty green. But that's fine with me, for now...
04/07/2007 11:34:10 AM · #75
Some of the greatest photographers of all time never had any formal training. Just an eye for detail and an undying passion for their art. Look at Ansel Adams.
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