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04/05/2007 05:55:50 PM · #26 |
dude, i just finished school last year, and i was so happy about it!
now i'm working 8 to 15 hours every single day and have absolutely no time to go out shooting...
compared to that school was sooooo relaxing!!! enjoy your school days, sooner or later you'll miss them!!!
yeah, blablablaaah...;-) |
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04/05/2007 06:00:20 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
Originally posted by boomtap:
You might be as smart as a guy with a 4.0, but he worked his tail off to get that 4.0. |
I'll take a lower GPA, keep my tail (drink a beer with my friends), and do just as good or better in an interview as this hypothetical guy...which one of us is smarter? |
Well. Just as well. Mr. 4.0 is more likely to get that right in his cover letter. And he's more likely to land the interview in the first place when the job application wants to know your GPA. You can't score well in an interview when you don't get the interview in the first place.
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04/05/2007 06:03:34 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
Drop out and work as a photographer full time. Do it.
...I want to, but 1 more year of classes and I'll have my degree, even if it's in a field that I don't want to work in. |
Your degree in a specific field? You're not 17, eh? |
I am, I was homeschooled and took classes at the college part time for the last couple years. I didn't really do any high school, I just took my GED test. And it's an associate's degree, in IT. I'm not willing to devote my working life to this field, and a full time job in it to pay the bills would keep me from doing what I really want to do, photography. |
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04/05/2007 06:04:19 PM · #29 |
| A lower GPA doesn't help when trying to become a cia,fbi,or dea agent. Maybe with other degrees it doesn't matter but i know with mine it does. Besides why not take advantage of your oppurtunity. For me its $900 a class. When paying that much why cruise by with a b or c. |
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04/05/2007 06:06:26 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by superdave:
A lower GPA doesn't help when trying to become a cia,fbi,or dea agent. Maybe with other degrees it doesn't matter but i know with mine it does. Besides why not take advantage of your oppurtunity. For me its $900 a class. When paying that much why cruise by with a b or c. |
My GPA was 4.0 in Culinary college, and that is what got me the interview. Granted, after you have been out of school for awhile and have some experience, the gPA matters less. |
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04/05/2007 06:10:33 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
Well. Just as well. Mr. 4.0 is more likely to get that right in his cover letter. And he's more likely to land the interview in the first place when the job application wants to know your GPA. You can't score well in an interview when you don't get the interview in the first place. |
I have yet to come across a job application that asks for GPA. Some fields may base these processes on GPA. I find faults with that system, and, subsequently, steered clear of those fields. |
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04/05/2007 06:12:19 PM · #32 |
| School sucks! I'm a senior in high school and only have 2 months left and sometimes I still wanna drop out! Can't wait for college! |
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04/05/2007 06:12:21 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by superdave:
A lower GPA doesn't help when trying to become a cia,fbi,or dea agent. Maybe with other degrees it doesn't matter but i know with mine it does. Besides why not take advantage of your oppurtunity. For me its $900 a class. When paying that much why cruise by with a b or c. |
Again:
criminal law and global business is a little different than fisheries and wildlife biology.
i can see you having some average joes wanting to be average cops in your field, so i understand where you have seen 2.5ers aspiring to be beat cops and 4.0ers aspiring to be lead detectives/captains/chiefs/dea/cia/fbi.
in my experiences. it is experiences that make the person, not soley the grades.
ETA: To stay on topic...I can relate with the OP. The last time I used my camera was Saturday night after rebuildling decks all day. I had a nice almost full moon rising and was way out from the city. I shot and shot until my arms were tired (forgot my tripod).
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 18:15:05. |
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04/05/2007 06:14:03 PM · #34 |
i pretty much am in college just because i can be, and to row for ucf, and now with connections through the athletic department, i shoot sports photography for the website and media guides for hopefully not only rowing but baseball and soccer next year. having a college degree to be a photographer isnt really that necessary, especially for freelancers/people that do smaller jobs. its about who you know :) i do guess that i'll be eating vienna sausages and ramen noodles the rest of my life, however from choosing this path. super...
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 18:14:30. |
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04/05/2007 06:18:08 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by illoosi0n:
i do guess that i'll be eating vienna sausages and ramen noodles the rest of my life, however from choosing this path. super... |
Don't be so sure...the most successfull photographer I have seen (in person) did not go to college. He now owns his own studio, isn't that old, has the wife and kids thing going, and is pretty much set for life. He's a small town guy who charges a couple grand for a wedding, but is GREAT at what he does. |
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04/05/2007 06:29:00 PM · #36 |
I'm on the home stretch of my colleg career...Just a month until I graduate! I am so burnt out with it all...I even still think about just quitting and starting a studio, but with one month to go that would be kinda stupid...I'd be left with $15,000 in debt and no pretty piece of paper to tell me I'm done! My degree is public relations...my school has no photography degree (lame). I won't need my degree for a photography job, but learning about marketing and other business practices sure will help if/when I want to start my own business.
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04/05/2007 06:29:09 PM · #37 |
I just took a final this morning in head an neck anatomy that was ferocious. But the good news is, it's 4 credit hours less for the next couple weeks, until the summer semester starts.
I haven't been very prolific this past year, but school gave me a chance to go somewhere and do something amazing for spring break, so that week I made up for it and took 1500 photos and I think it's some of my best stuff in a while. |
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04/05/2007 06:29:55 PM · #38 |
| It is photography and it doesn't require a degree. Just hard work and busting your ass. Which spells success in any field |
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04/05/2007 06:44:46 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
Well. Just as well. Mr. 4.0 is more likely to get that right in his cover letter. |
...
It took reading this thread from the top to catch this.
Thank you for pointing out that grammatical mistake. I usually take pride in my writing, and believe I write very WELL. I guess I should print out my potential internet posts and go over them with my red pen and highlighter. I actually landed my current job against two other people with higher GPAs because of my ability to write an eloquent letter (in response to a real-world situation) during the interview. You would think, in a field dominated by men (>90%), an older woman with more experience and a higher GPA would be sitting at my desk in my office...you would think.
Edit to add: GPA is not everything.
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 18:55:43. |
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04/05/2007 07:32:11 PM · #40 |
I wish I was still in school.
My sister, the scientist, went to Harvard, BC, and got her PhD a Princeton.
She still goes to school after all these years just to keep up with the latest science in her field.
Work sucks, especially when you have to do back breaking, monotonous work, day in and day out.
Money isn't everything.
I would rather have my health, and more time for myself than all the money in the world.
Looking back, school rocked.
Weather we are in a physical school of learning, or the school of life, or even in some sense, DPC, we are always in some sort of schooling environment.
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04/05/2007 08:14:43 PM · #41 |
after a couple of college technical diplomas, a CompSci degree, Msc in Eng. .. i'm still taking night courses .. love to go back full time .. might even do that (with spouses approval ...)
school beats working for a living $ but working sure helps with the toys $
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04/05/2007 08:22:52 PM · #42 |
Anyone here watching Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader ? I can not believe how many adults are not... Jeff Foxworthy is going to have all sorts of new material for his comedy act after a season or two of this show.
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04/05/2007 09:01:37 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
Originally posted by superdave:
i think that theory of just getting b's and c's is crap. It is an excuse to get a b or c. Well atleast i was having fun. |
criminal law and global business is a little different than fisheries and wildlife biology.
i can see you having some average joes wanting to be average cops in your field, so i understand where you have seen 2.5ers aspiring to be beat cops and 4.0ers aspiring to be lead detectives/captains/chiefs.
but in my experiences. it is experiences that make the person, not soley the grades. |
Yeah, not to piss anyone off but I have been told by more than one person in the recruiting/hiring field that in some cases a low 3 GPA will win out over a 4.0 GPA all other things being equal, because the powers that be figure that the lower GPA person has probably had more social interaction than the 4.0 person, and in some fields this is more important, for example marketing, sales, even business management. the general thought being the 4.0 person spent ALL their time studing and may not be as comfortable in dealing with people. Like I said no offence to anyone.
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04/05/2007 09:42:53 PM · #44 |
it's not just the grades. it's not just the name or reputation of the school. it's what you get out of it. to an employer, it's what they feel you got out of it. if you can show that you got something out of it, they don't care if it's a state school or ivy league. if you can show that you know your stuff, it doesn't matter if you have a 3.09 vs a 3.90. but... you have to have a way of showing that you know your stuff. it may be strong recommendations or other experience, but there has to be something to show what you know. otherwise, all they have to go on is gpa and your school's reputation.
i've got 2 years and 3 months of training left (with a possible year of fellowship afterwards). man, it can be a long road... :-( |
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04/05/2007 11:10:56 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by zaflabout:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by zaflabout:
tell me about it, i've been in school since..... well actually all my life :)
and still have 2 more years to go!!!!
but then again i will get the cool 'Dr.' infront of my last name :)
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... and MD plates on your Porsche... how cool is that.
Ray |
not really :( i am doing a PhD is there a PhD license plate?:) |
oh please, don't bother. all you'll do is piss other phd's off and they'll ram ya. |
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04/05/2007 11:33:46 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by EducatedSavage:
Originally posted by superdave:
i think that theory of just getting b's and c's is crap. It is an excuse to get a b or c. Well atleast i was having fun. It will get you in a bad situation of even more pressure and stress when exams come along. Then you have to get a high a or b to pass. Why not try your hardest and do your best. GPA does matter. Show me someone with a 4.0 and show me someone with a 2.5. No doubt about it the kid with a 4.0 worked his/her butt off and is smarter then the kid in college with a 2.5 average. |
Such generalizations are a bit harsh... some of us b and c students out there have a good reason. The more I work, the more my grades suffer, that's for sure. I think the best time I ever had was when I first went to college. No job, full time school, I never studied and I had a 4.0. But now I know that being exhausted from working all day means you actually have to study. I'm pretty content with my B average, now. |
Grades do matter... but only for your first job or for getting into the best post-graduate school you can (which also matters for your first job). I'm in law school and they have a little saying: A students become law professors; B students become judges; C students get rich. ;) |
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04/05/2007 11:36:20 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by zaflabout:
tell me about it, i've been in school since..... well actually all my life :)
and still have 2 more years to go!!!!
but then again i will get the cool 'Dr.' infront of my last name :) |
OH, ditto here! :D just give me the damn paper and let me GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! |
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04/06/2007 02:20:31 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
Originally posted by boomtap:
You might be as smart as a guy with a 4.0, but he worked his tail off to get that 4.0. |
I'll take a lower GPA, keep my tail (drink a beer with my friends), and do just as well or better in an interview as this hypothetical guy...which one of us is smarter? |
I am trying to get scholarship money. That is my driving force behind getting A's. Otherwise I would agree with you, but $6000 of tuition money would help me buy alot of beer.
I just finished up a paper, worked from 4:00 till 12:20 on it. I do this almost every single night. How long before I am burned out?
Message edited by author 2007-04-06 02:21:26. |
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04/06/2007 12:45:38 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
I am trying to get scholarship money. That is my driving force behind getting A's. Otherwise I would agree with you, but $6000 of tuition money would help me buy alot of beer.
I just finished up a paper, worked from 4:00 till 12:20 on it. I do this almost every single night. How long before I am burned out? |
Scholarships are a whole new ball game! It seems like you are budgeting time well. I was so anal about my papers my sr. year of undergrad that I would pull random all-nighters just reading and re-reading each section...days before it was due. I can't imagine working, raising kids, and schooling! I got my b.s. and said "see-ya!" I think burning out is different for everyone. You have to keep that end-goal in sight...remind yourself what you are working for. That will help. And when you get frustrated...take a break, plan time with your family, and TAKE PICTURES! You'll come back ready and all set to kick some scholarly ass!
Hang in there. You have a group of complete strangers rooting for you. Best of luck.
-Drew |
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04/06/2007 03:41:19 PM · #50 |
Well my strait A's are a thing of the past. I made a 88.92% in my philosophy class, so that will end my hopes of 4.0 glory. I needed a 92% on my final paper, I got a 90%.
Back to photography! lol.
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