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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/04/2007 05:19:11 PM · #1

Do you think the purists who don't like digital art are going to vote down images that they think look "too much like art" and not a plain ol' photograph? I think the expert editing will give people the choice to do either. It's a fun way to be REALLY creative with basically no holes barred. Not that a crisp perfectly focused single shot won't do well, but I just hope that the voters consider all of the choices when voting. I guess we'll see soon enough.

Ben

Canon EOS-30D

04/04/2007 05:21:14 PM · #2

I just vote high on what i like, low on what i don't.

Just to refer to your point though, i don't like 'digital art' so i would vote low on something like that usually.

fotomann_forever

04/04/2007 05:22:40 PM · #3

Originally posted by Jutilda:

Do you think the purists who don't like digital art are going to vote down images that they think look "too much like art" and not a plain ol' photograph?

No doubt they will. And the anti-nudists will vote down the nudes and the anti-florals will vote down the flowers. As far as voting goes this won't be any different from any other free study.

option

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/04/2007 05:25:10 PM · #4

I tend to dislike digital art, not because its a fabrication, but because most people suck at it, and it ends up looking bad. I will give bad scores to images that look bad, whether theyre digitally altered or not.

Its called "Expert" editing for a reason...

naomik

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

04/04/2007 05:27:30 PM · #5

I'm overwhelmed...I just don't know what to do without any guidelines. I just don't know where to begin!

SteveJ

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

04/04/2007 05:27:38 PM · #6

I am opposed to this Free Study! If it is a free study then there should not be expert editing as a trial. A free study is just that and those who do not have the knowledge, ability or inclination to use Expert will be penalised by those who manipulate to extremes to win.

If it is a Free Study, then it should just that, a basic editing challenge that allows adavnced and expert, but not expert as a trial.
The emphasis is now placed upon all who enter to use 'expert' to succeed or wallow in the mire of a brown ribbon.

Let's leave Free Study as just that, with no limits applied.

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 17:28:34.

TooCool

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

04/04/2007 05:29:01 PM · #7

Originally posted by Jutilda:

I most certainly will and will leave comments to that fact!

option

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/04/2007 05:32:03 PM · #8

Originally posted by formerlee:

I disagree. When it comes to editing, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I wont be giving out bonus points just because someone tried some expert technique...

Jammur

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

04/04/2007 05:37:51 PM · #9

I see it as a liberating experience.
It where you go that counts, not how you got there.

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

04/04/2007 05:55:16 PM · #10

Originally posted by Jammur:

I see it as a liberating experience.
It where you go that counts, not how you got there.

Don't bet on it!

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/04/2007 06:14:48 PM · #11

I'm not always the hugest fan of a purely manipulated shot either, but when obvious tools are used to enhance it, I think that is something entirely different. Ok, here are two examples. Do you who hate digital art put these in that category? I'm tough, I can take it.

Ben

Canon EOS-30D

04/04/2007 06:42:30 PM · #12

They're both art, as in anything like that, that you create, however they're not to my tastes, and that is mostly due to the excessive 'digital manipulation'.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

04/04/2007 06:44:10 PM · #13

GOT IT - the issue with digital though is the ability to stretch the envelope. I guess I just like mine stretched further than you do. ;~D

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

04/04/2007 06:45:34 PM · #14

I don't hate it, I'd just prefer to see a photo which looks like a photo win.

edit: my grammar sucks :P

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 18:51:35.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/04/2007 06:49:49 PM · #15

I totally understand.

Wish they'd have a "digital art" challenge. Just for fun.

raish

Olympus C-2500L

04/04/2007 07:03:40 PM · #16

At the risk of being crashingly pseud - or pseudo-intellectual - which is probably what I am anyway, so what the heck...

There's a lot in Pablo Picasso's statement that art is the lie that tells the truth. You very often have to manipulate an image, however slightly, in order to reproduce the scene that you actually photographed. Even more so, perhaps, if you wish to reproduce the effect of that scene. So if there's an ideal acceptance of digital art, might it not be that the art shares the ideal of the photograph?

What good would actors be, that walked and talked like the likes of you and me? Yet it may nevertheless be their aim, with their strutting and improbably rehearsed and coherent sentences, to be true to life.

The result here is a picture. Vote on it.

sherpet

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/04/2007 07:35:24 PM · #17

I am at a loss, re the Expert editing for Free Study also, due to the fact it limits so many members who either don't do Expect editing, or don't know how, and thats not really fair.

Can we have two free studyies this month please.....

1 - One for the Expect Editing members..... and

2 - Another one re the normal Monthly Advanced Free Study, for the ones that don't do it, or know how to, please.....

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

04/04/2007 07:51:54 PM · #18

You don't have to use it :)

fotomann_forever

04/04/2007 07:55:47 PM · #19

Originally posted by Konador:

You don't have to use it :)

really? ;-)

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/04/2007 08:52:39 PM · #20

Just take a shot of a sunset and you'll be just fine. ;~D

alfresco

Nikon D700

04/04/2007 08:56:43 PM · #21

Originally posted by Jutilda:

Just take a shot of a sunset and you'll be just fine. ;~D

With a butterfly. And a flower. And boobies. But no moobies.

:D

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/04/2007 09:20:22 PM · #22

Originally posted by alfresco:

With a butterfly. And a flower. And boobies. But no moobies.

:D

No boobies. They don't do well in FS. But how about babies?

alfresco

Nikon D700

04/04/2007 09:22:51 PM · #23

Originally posted by Jutilda:

Originally posted by alfresco:
With a butterfly. And a flower. And boobies. But no moobies.

:D

No boobies. They don't do well in FS. But how about babies?

Hmmmmmmm ... What about bobbies?