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07/08/2003 05:39:50 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Gracechild7: Now, granted is the fact that I personally will never win a ribbon with the camera I have, so I don't have to worry about cameras that don't save EXIF info. And all the people that do win generally have good cameras that do save EXIF info.
But what if, by some strange happening, I accidently do finish in the top ten with a photo that is completely unedited. Would my photo be DQed because I have a low end camera?
Just something to consider. |
If you have a CD burner, you can burn all your raw captures to CD before doing any editing, "fixing" the file creation date in a read-only medium. I personally would accept that as "proof" enough at least for creation date; don't know if it would prove anything else. |
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07/08/2003 05:43:01 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Gracechild7: Now, granted is the fact that I personally will never win a ribbon with the camera I have, so I don't have to worry about cameras that don't save EXIF info. And all the people that do win generally have good cameras that do save EXIF info.
But what if, by some strange happening, I accidently do finish in the top ten with a photo that is completely unedited. Would my photo be DQed because I have a low end camera?
Just something to consider. |
If you've never opened the picture in any medium, the exif will not say a THING with your cam. If you edited it, Thumber will put "Software: Photoshop 7.0" on the exif even if your CAM doesn't record exif, because .jpg does.
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07/08/2003 05:43:56 PM · #28 |
I assume the CD burner uses the computer system date for its burn date. That is as easily manipulated as EXIF data.
We may hate to admit it, but we are in a world where honour may be the only genuine article.
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07/08/2003 05:48:33 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by marbo: It`s a good idea but i hope nobody shots with a 14mp camera in raw with a dial up connection. I hate to think how big the file would be. |
I didn't like to send 2.5mb files over dial-up either. Depending on the time of the day such files took me 20 to 40 minutes. (now 750k cable, but I hate the idea of ever having to send a 16mb tiff -use that when the jpeg might ruin details-)
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07/08/2003 06:04:27 PM · #30 |
I think this idea would cause more trouble than it's worth. Sure it may deter a few would-be "cheaters," but IMO would detract from the overall atmosphere of the site.
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07/08/2003 06:18:29 PM · #31 |
Actually, I think that once the images are posted as winners, then all DQing should cease. DQs should be made before the challenge ends IMO. I'm a little reticent to start policing shots. Most DQs are, as rcrawford stated, honest mistakes, and I really enjoy the *higher law* application of trust and integrity that is here. I really think it adds to the friendship and camaradarie found here (at least that I've found here). Assuming distrust could possibly make this a less fun and friendly site.
As for allowing spot editing, I have to confess that I'm not sure I could trust myself to not go overboard even though I would have dearly loved to spot edit some of my shots. I do think that my photography quality would drop as I became less careful about taking pictures because I could *fix* then later in photoshop. The no editing rule has been very effective at making me a better photographer.
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07/08/2003 06:27:17 PM · #32 |
I think that once the images are posted as winners, then all DQing should cease.
The latest DQ got you a well deserved ribbon, i sure there must have been a very valid reason.
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07/08/2003 06:38:30 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by dsidwell: Actually, I think that once the images are posted as winners, then all DQing should cease. DQs should be made before the challenge ends IMO... |
The DQ request may be received during the last few hours of voting--you have to allow some time for the artist to respond, and you can't hold up the challenge result for a pending DQ.
Sometimes the grounds for the DQ is revealed by the photographer's comments, which only become visible after the challenge (grrrr....).
Sometimes, once the photographer's identity becomes known, the image is then found posted elsewhere in such a way as to demonstrate it was taken outside the allowable dates or otherwise "illegal."
Message edited by author 2003-07-08 18:39:26. |
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