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03/29/2007 02:43:20 PM · #51 |
| Next time I'm at a fancy restaurant I think I'll order the "Sunlight Soup" ... : ) |
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03/29/2007 03:29:50 PM · #52 |
[quote=Citadel] I wouldn't worry about it. TIHadi always starts stuff with the challenge descriptions. Invariably.
Eta - in this case he chimed in with his 2 cents...so while he didn't start it he certainly encourage it.
Anyways...
And I have always neglected guys like you, and I will maintain to do so. |
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03/29/2007 03:38:01 PM · #53 |
TIHadi,
FWIW, i think you have a nice example of contre-jour here.
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03/29/2007 03:39:22 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by mpeters:
TIHadi,
FWIW, i think you have a nice example of contre-jour here.
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LOOOL ... I was thinkng of doing something like this today.
Thanks
I think this too. I do not care what they say. When I feel I have to think about light coming at me that is contre-jour to me.
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 15:45:02. |
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03/29/2007 03:51:20 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Jour means day or daylight. It does not mean direct back light or sun light.
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Originally posted by tase:
contre-jour in french literally means "against-day", tweaking it a bit would yield "against daylight", equating daylight with the sun would mean that the camera must not be pointed to just ANY source of light, but the sun and sun ONLY.
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Although neither of you are wrong on your literal translation of jour, "contre-jour" is a photographic term used for photos shot into a light source, not necessarily a silhouetted subject, but usually having strong highlights and due to the light source being behind the subject.
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03/29/2007 04:00:14 PM · #56 |
Now i'm getting sucked in... ;( And getting an education all at the same time! :)
Joe's take seems pretty reasoned. I envision strong shapes caused by backlighting, possibly a strong bright area, (maybe even blown highlights!!) <insert shock and confusion here> and strong shadow areas.
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03/29/2007 04:09:10 PM · #57 |
So would you say that the light source can be a generated light source or one of a natural source?
Im still a tad confused about it.. I know the GENERAL jist but not 100% sure about the exact meaning. From what I have read it seems that ANY source of light is OK and it does not have to be the sun either or shot DIRECTLY into that source to qualify as a Contre Jour.
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03/29/2007 04:10:58 PM · #58 |
i have been thinking about this contre-jour thingy until i typed the
word on my email and dpc password.
now i don't care..contre-jour sun or spotlight or neon or whatever lights it is..
one thing for sure..i will shoot againts the light! sunlight or light-sources...or torch light :D
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03/29/2007 04:22:03 PM · #59 |
Shoot into some light source, produce a mostly shadowed side possibly lit by fill light, and ignore the DNMC twits.
I assumed tase was kidding; as crazy as I've seen DNMC votes get, I couldn't wrap my mind around the idea he was serious. But I guess he was.
Oh, well, it's just 1 vote.
Or just shoot something about fitness. :)
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 16:22:27.
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03/29/2007 04:23:25 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by fredahenry:
one thing for sure..i will shoot againts the light! sunlight or light-sources...or torch light :D |
I am probably going to do something like this, just shoot into or against a bright light source and hope for the best.
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03/29/2007 04:25:59 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Or just shoot something about fitness. :) |
Like someone running down the beach at sunset ... : )
(or sunrise, for East Coasters) |
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03/29/2007 05:56:39 PM · #62 |
Please help - Has it been decided we can fill in the backlight? Examples below - Would they be up to the challenge?
Please let me know as I am going to try and shoot for this challenge.
Cheers
Jeff
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03/29/2007 06:05:14 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Please help - Has it been decided ... |
The forums do not "decide" anything -- they are a place for opinionated folks to express their views (often repeatedly) in writing.
You need to decide for yourself how to interpret the challenge topic and take a photo you like which meets that definition. People will vote how they want anyway, and for as many people who try to narrow the definition down there are others who admire alternative, offbeat, or even off-the-wall interpretations. Do not mistake the DPC score as a true evaluation of the quality of your shot : ) |
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03/29/2007 06:13:07 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The forums do not "decide" anything -- they are a place for opinionated folks to express their views (often repeatedly) in writing.
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This is probably the best explanation I have ever seen of what a forum is. :)
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03/29/2007 06:16:07 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by jdannels:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The forums do not "decide" anything -- they are a place for opinionated folks to express their views (often repeatedly) in writing.
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This is probably the best explanation I have ever seen of what a forum is. :) |
It'd be even more accurate if I'd worked in the part about those opinionated folks representing a tiny minority of the participating members ... : ( |
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03/29/2007 06:17:43 PM · #66 |
| I guess I'm feeling contre today ... : ) |
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03/29/2007 06:19:12 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jdannels:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The forums do not "decide" anything -- they are a place for opinionated folks to express their views (often repeatedly) in writing.
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This is probably the best explanation I have ever seen of what a forum is. :) |
It'd be even more accurate if I'd worked in the part about those opinionated folks representing a tiny minority of the participating members ... : ( |
The forums do not "decide" anything -- they are a place for opinionated folks, representing a tiny minority of the participating members, to express their views (often repeatedly) in writing.
eh?
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03/29/2007 06:22:06 PM · #68 |
| Feel free to post that at Wikipedia : ) |
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03/29/2007 06:28:25 PM · #69 |
Just speaking for myself, I think these are not the best examples of Contre-jour however, I wouldn't consider them DNMC. What I would rate higher (assuming all other things are equal) would be images that have more of a focus on the back lighting and less focus on the front/fill lighting. Basically silhouettes and those that use fill light to "carve out" just some of the details would be ideal. Basically more artsy and less commercial looking if that makes sense. Just my opinion though.
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 18:29:08. |
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03/29/2007 06:35:22 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Just speaking for myself, I think these are not the best examples of Contre-jour however, I wouldn't consider them DNMC. What I would rate higher (assuming all other things are equal) would be images that have more of a focus on the back lighting and less focus on the front/fill lighting. Basically silhouettes and those that use fill light to "carve out" just some of the details would be ideal. Basically more artsy and less commercial looking if that makes sense. Just my opinion though. |
Shoot dude the way I read it these would surly meet the challenge in my book. He is shooting in to the light so what if it has fill light or not. But that's DPC for ya! One mans treasure is another mans trash.
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03/29/2007 06:45:45 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Shoot dude the way I read it these would surly meet the challenge in my book. He is shooting in to the light so what if it has fill light or not. But that's DPC for ya! One mans treasure is another mans trash.
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Maybe you missed the part where I said his DID meet the challenge? I just don't think they are the strongest examples for it at least for me.
ETA: If this helps, jblaylockrayner's first photo with the fish I would like the least for this particular challenge out of the three he posted. Why because for me the sun is just a cursory effect in that photo. The photo most definitely could survive without the sun being in the shot especially since the fill light is doing the heavy lifting illuminating the subject.
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 18:57:10. |
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03/29/2007 06:59:55 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Shoot dude the way I read it these would surly meet the challenge in my book. He is shooting in to the light so what if it has fill light or not. But that's DPC for ya! One mans treasure is another mans trash.
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Maybe you missed the part where I said his DID meet the challenge? I just don't think they are the strongest examples for it at least for me.
ETA: If this helps, jblaylockrayner's first photo with the fish I would like the least for this particular challenge out of the three he posted. Why because for me the sun is just a cursory effect in that photo. The photo most definitely could survive without the sun being in the shot especially since the fill light is doing the heavy lifting illuminating the subject. |
No I didn't miss it brotha. I am just so tired of these discussions on the nit-pick over the DNMC. It's not directed at you so much my man. I just happen to dig the poop out of Jeff's images. I aspire to shoot like that. Every time I have tried to capture something like that I fail so anyway I ramble.
:-)
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 19:03:31. |
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03/29/2007 07:40:47 PM · #73 |
i predict at least one DNMC comment for mine ;)
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03/30/2007 12:52:01 PM · #74 |
So I'm out shooting for this challenge this morning, pointing the camera at, or close to at, the sun, and after a couple of dozen shots my camera just freezes up. I turn it off, but the info on the screen (shutter speed, frames left etc.) won't go away, and none of the buttons do anything. Oh sh*t. Thankfully just removing the batteries and putting them back in fixes everything. But I'm wondering ...
does shooting into the sun risk damage to our cameras? anyone else experience anything similar?
Edited to add: looks like the answer might be here for anyone who is interested.
Message edited by author 2007-03-30 13:35:18. |
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03/30/2007 02:05:29 PM · #75 |
Maybe I should reshoot this, incorporating feedback from the Acronym challenge about my head being cut out of frame ... I think it qualifies. :)
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