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03/28/2007 02:46:24 PM · #26 |
A little birdie told me that's where the challenge description came from ;-)
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03/29/2007 05:52:55 AM · #27 |
contre-jour in french literally means "against-day", tweaking it a bit would yield "against daylight", equating daylight with the sun would mean that the camera must not be pointed to just ANY source of light, but the sun and sun ONLY.
i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you!
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 05:53:33. |
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03/29/2007 06:16:40 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by tase:
contre-jour in french literally means "against-day", tweaking it a bit would yield "against daylight", equating daylight with the sun would mean that the camera must not be pointed to just ANY source of light, but the sun and sun ONLY.
i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
So what about those places with a lot of cloud.. the sun is STILL THERE just not visable so how would you determine if the camera was inm fact pointing directly at the sun or not? I would rather define it as taken with the camera pointed towards the natural light not JUST directly into the sun.
I do agree that it should be a natural light source and not a cam pointing into a set of strobes.
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03/29/2007 06:17:51 AM · #29 |
Found this with a basic step-by-step thingy...may spark a few ideas....
Tips How to... |
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03/29/2007 06:19:21 AM · #30 |
from the weather report over here..
we are going to have gloomy...cloudy...wet...cold..until next week..
:(..now that's the challenge..
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03/29/2007 06:26:28 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by faery:
Found this with a basic step-by-step thingy...may spark a few ideas....
Tips How to... |
This corrects my initial thought and clearly states any light source may be used... well looks likes the DNMC guys need a re-think.
Im pleased to learn that any light source is OK because a lot of people do not have access to the nice bright sun. Thanks for the link
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03/29/2007 06:37:38 AM · #32 |
Is this a contre-jour?
If it is, I am two weeks early in taken it. |
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03/29/2007 06:39:47 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Is this a contre-jour?
If it is, I am two weeks early in taken it. |
From what little i have learned about the CONTRE JOUR technique I would say that this shot is NOT contre Jour because it has not been shot' into 'the light source itself.
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03/29/2007 11:05:57 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by tase:
contre-jour in french literally means "against-day", tweaking it a bit would yield "against daylight", equating daylight with the sun would mean that the camera must not be pointed to just ANY source of light, but the sun and sun ONLY.
i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
ye of narrow mind - > full moon Apr 2/3nd < -
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03/29/2007 11:08:29 AM · #35 |
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03/29/2007 11:21:53 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by tase:
i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
Yawwwnnnnn... |
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03/29/2007 11:26:21 AM · #37 |
I've only taken one such shot and it's been a long fave of mine
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03/29/2007 12:09:56 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by tase:
contre-jour in french literally means "against-day", tweaking it a bit would yield "against daylight", equating daylight with the sun would mean that the camera must not be pointed to just ANY source of light, but the sun and sun ONLY.
i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
//www.pbase.com/morganommer/image/72729334
You will DNMC this , well go ahead...
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 12:10:38. |
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03/29/2007 12:13:37 PM · #39 |
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03/29/2007 12:14:05 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by tase:
contre-jour in french literally means "against-day", tweaking it a bit would yield "against daylight", equating daylight with the sun would mean that the camera must not be pointed to just ANY source of light, but the sun and sun ONLY.
i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
Or this
//www.flickr.com/photos/22701595@N00/437696606/ |
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03/29/2007 12:17:34 PM · #41 |
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 12:34:23. |
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03/29/2007 12:22:41 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by tase:
contre-jour in french literally means "against-day", tweaking it a bit would yield "against daylight", equating daylight with the sun would mean that the camera must not be pointed to just ANY source of light, but the sun and sun ONLY.
i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
I say kill this
//wehow.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2031965/c_thru1_Full.jpg
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 12:23:52. |
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03/29/2007 12:28:20 PM · #43 |
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03/29/2007 12:42:31 PM · #44 |
Jour means day or daylight. It does not mean direct back light or sun light.
Bon Jour = Good day not good direct sun light.
vivre au jour le jour = live from day to day
trois fois par jour three times a day
un jour ou l’autre one of these days |
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03/29/2007 02:19:53 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Jour means day or daylight. It does not mean direct back light or sun light. |
From the challenge description:
"Contre-jour is a photographic term that means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source."
From Wikipedia:
"Contre-jour, French for 'against daylight', refers to photographs taken when the camera is pointing directly toward the source of light. Contre-jour has the effect making the subject backlit. This effect usually hides details, causes a stronger contrast between light and dark, creates silhouettes and emphasizes lines and shapes. The sun, or other light source, is often seen as either a bright spot or as a strong glare behind the subject. Fill light may be used to illuminate the side of the subject facing toward the camera."
So. The challenge description and Wikipedia (and likely other sources as well) both agree that the sun is not the only acceptable contre-jour light source. Where is the argument coming from, and why would you even bother to limit it so needlessly? Honestly people, why must every challenge be whittled down to a definition so narrow as to stifle creativity? Mostly I avoid these arguments because they're merely dumb, but lately they've crossed the line into sheer ridiculousness. A pebble is a rock. A snowflake is an ice crystal. A diamond is commonly referred to as "ice". A rainbow is light. Colors have a zillion shades. Why must everything be so hacked to pieces that we get 300 boring photos of whatever because entrants feel too limited by the narrowmindedness of the voters who will call anything outside of a teensy tiny box DNMC? People here get WAY too wrapped up in bickering over insignificant details. Give people the benefit of the doubt! Quit dabbling in semantics and enjoy the show!
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03/29/2007 02:23:15 PM · #46 |
I got the description from wikkipedia :-)
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=554113
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 14:23:39.
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03/29/2007 02:28:38 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Jour means day or daylight. It does not mean direct back light or sun light. |
Mostly I avoid these arguments because they're merely dumb, but lately they've crossed the line into sheer ridiculousness. |
Ditto.
hmmm.... The moon, light source or just a reflector??? Photoflex 30" gold? Oops! getting sucked in! ;) |
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03/29/2007 02:29:13 PM · #48 |
I have been out shooting a little to try this out. Now I am wondering if the lightsource you shoot against should be visible? Or is it enough to shoot against the sun (in this instance) and it is clear, even obvious that it is shot against the sun.
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03/29/2007 02:33:20 PM · #49 |
I wouldn't worry about it. TIHadi always starts stuff with the challenge descriptions. Invariably.
Eta - in this case he chimed in with his 2 cents...so while he didn't start it he certainly encourage it.
Anyways...
Originally posted by Rebecca:
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Jour means day or daylight. It does not mean direct back light or sun light. |
From the challenge description:
"Contre-jour is a photographic term that means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source."
From Wikipedia:
"Contre-jour, French for 'against daylight', refers to photographs taken when the camera is pointing directly toward the source of light. Contre-jour has the effect making the subject backlit. This effect usually hides details, causes a stronger contrast between light and dark, creates silhouettes and emphasizes lines and shapes. The sun, or other light source, is often seen as either a bright spot or as a strong glare behind the subject. Fill light may be used to illuminate the side of the subject facing toward the camera."
So. The challenge description and Wikipedia (and likely other sources as well) both agree that the sun is not the only acceptable contre-jour light source. Where is the argument coming from, and why would you even bother to limit it so needlessly? Honestly people, why must every challenge be whittled down to a definition so narrow as to stifle creativity? Mostly I avoid these arguments because they're merely dumb, but lately they've crossed the line into sheer ridiculousness. A pebble is a rock. A snowflake is an ice crystal. A diamond is commonly referred to as "ice". A rainbow is light. Colors have a zillion shades. Why must everything be so hacked to pieces that we get 300 boring photos of whatever because entrants feel too limited by the narrowmindedness of the voters who will call anything outside of a teensy tiny box DNMC? People here get WAY too wrapped up in bickering over insignificant details. Give people the benefit of the doubt! Quit dabbling in semantics and enjoy the show! |
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 14:34:09.
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03/29/2007 02:41:55 PM · #50 |
I just like the way it sounds. And I like shooting into the light. So hey, I'm thinking it'll be a good challenge and I look forward to voting in it, even if I don't get anything to enter!
Edit to add to GuGi - into the light doesn't mean the light source has to be visible in my book. I think it's the effect you get when shooting into the light that's the objective.
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 14:43:05. |
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