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03/27/2007 01:51:59 PM · #1 |
I'm looking at replacing my 2-year old HP Compaq (with an AMD processor). I'm thinking about getting an iMac or another PC (both would come with dual core processors). I currently use Photoshop CS, but plan on upgrading to CS3 when it comes out. I was looking to spend around $1500 or less. I'm not into heavy gaming, but do like to run Flight Simulator X on occasion.
Convince me which one to buy! |
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03/27/2007 01:54:44 PM · #2 |
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03/27/2007 01:54:55 PM · #3 |
I saw a side by side comparison with a Apple G5 against a pc costing around the same and they set a heavy filter going on PS on the same image at the same time and the PC finished in about 15 seconds, whereas the G5 took about 40 seconds.
*Edit* This comparison was on a UK show called 'The Gadget Show'.
Goes against the grain of hyped thinking.
I was considering switching, but my pc's are just so much better for me.
Message edited by author 2007-03-27 13:55:34. |
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03/27/2007 02:51:00 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Ben:
I saw a side by side comparison with a Apple G5 against a pc costing around the same and they set a heavy filter going on PS on the same image at the same time and the PC finished in about 15 seconds, whereas the G5 took about 40 seconds.
*Edit* This comparison was on a UK show called 'The Gadget Show'.
Goes against the grain of hyped thinking.
I was considering switching, but my pc's are just so much better for me. |
I bet the testing you refer to was done with CS2, a version of PS not yet adapted to recent (Intel) Macs. You are really comparing a computer running software natively vs. another one crippled by emulation (Rosetta translation). Adobe was a little slow in adapting, is all.
Try the same test with CS3 and see what will happen to "the grain of hyped thinking". :-) |
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03/27/2007 03:08:32 PM · #5 |
I read somewhere on one of Adobe's forums that a lot of the sluggishness that is in Adobe Lightroom goes away if you run it on a Mac instead of a PC. Chances are, LR was developed on the Mac first and ported to the PC.
So my guess is, it really depends on where the application was originally written. If written and optimized first on the PC, then it may be slower on the Mac. And vice versa.
Myself... I have too many PC applications to give up and switch to a Mac. But I've seen the Mac OS and I'm currently running Windows Vista. There ain't no comparison. Vista "feels" like a kludge, by comparison.
I really think that if Microsoft had the level of control over the hardware that Apple has, things would be different. But that's just the way the market goes...
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03/27/2007 03:56:33 PM · #6 |
| Everyone, thanks for all your comments. I definitely need to drive one of the new Mac's for myself to compare hands-on. |
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03/27/2007 04:47:10 PM · #7 |
Don't forget the lack of viruses - I think there are none for the Mac.
I have managed to convert most of the reporters I work with on a regular basis to convert to Macs - I have never had one go down or have to go back to the shop in the 9 years I have been using them.
They rock! |
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03/27/2007 05:59:22 PM · #8 |
They're exactly the same for most purposes.
It's nothing more than what you're comfortable with.
I test software on Mac, but I can't stand the user interface, so I don't use it personally. |
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03/27/2007 06:25:22 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
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That's a fair point, however i was referring in anyway to CS3 as it's not even out yet, but people have been saying macs are better and faster than PC's for years, and it's just not true. |
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03/27/2007 06:31:33 PM · #10 |
I have used both and I have fallen in love with the Mac. I found my computers last way longer since I have been using a Mac. I also feel like you get more for your money with a Mac. People complain because a Mac cost a little more but you get more then your money's worth. I am not anti-PC. I do use a PC at work and school but at home I use a Mac and I haven't had any probs moving files from Mac to PC or PC to Mac. I always say when you are dealing with a Mac and you don't know how to do something on it just imagine the ideal way of doing it and that is most likely how you do it on a Mac. Oh and I currently own a iMac (intel).
Message edited by author 2007-03-27 18:32:43. |
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03/27/2007 06:34:50 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by serinanielson:
I have used both and I have fallen in love with the Mac. I found my computers last way longer since I have been using a Mac. I also feel like you get more for your money with a Mac. People complain because a Mac cost a little more but you get more then your money's worth. I am not anti-PC. I do use a PC at work and school but at home I use a Mac and I haven't had any probs moving files from Mac to PC or PC to Mac. I always say when you are dealing with a Mac and you don't know how to do something on it just imagine the ideal way of doing it and that is most likely how you do it on a Mac. Oh and I currently own a iMac (intel). |
Except when the answer is Ctrl-Option-Shift-F12-MouseClick... :p |
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03/27/2007 06:43:06 PM · #12 |
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03/27/2007 06:43:19 PM · #13 |
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03/27/2007 07:16:35 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Don't forget the lack of viruses - I think there are none for the Mac. |
There are less, true, but not none. There are definitely some.
And I think there will become more as Macs become more popular.
There used to be no point virus writers attacking Macs cos no-one used them!
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03/27/2007 07:39:27 PM · #15 |
Well I have over 2,000 man hours ONLINE on VATSIM with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 and have kept track of new developments and lemme tell you that Microsoft's VISTA OS is MADE for flight simulation and high res graphics of all sorts ... It is promised that it is way way less virus friendly and way way more graphics intensive ...
I hope to upgrade to Vista shortly ...
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03/27/2007 08:37:32 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Konador:
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Don't forget the lack of viruses - I think there are none for the Mac. |
There are less, true, but not none. There are definitely some.
And I think there will become more as Macs become more popular.
There used to be no point virus writers attacking Macs cos no-one used them! |
Do a virus search for both, Apple and Microsoft to get the numbers. Here is a good site.
Deduct those which come from malicious software.
Then deduct whatever %age you think would reflect the skill level to write a programme to break into and disrupt unix-based OSX left at factory settings. |
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03/27/2007 08:58:38 PM · #17 |
I have only one, not entirely constructive point to contribute to the discussion - ONE MOUSE BUTTON! I mean seriously, what's that all about?
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03/27/2007 09:02:40 PM · #18 |
I'm not particularily good at technical stuff, and exactly why one system is supposed to work better than another, but, I got an iMac in the Fall of last year, and it's been fantastic! The clarity of the screen, the ease of use, just how beautiful it looks on my desk, I love it. Somehow the Mac makes sense, although I can't quite explain why. On my PC (which I still use for work) all the hows and whys always take me so much longer to figure out. But the best part is how easy the screen is to look at, and all the detail I can see now that I just couldn't see on the PC.
As for CS, I have the Beta version of Universal PSCS3 installed and it works much better than CS2 Mac did. I was able to run CS2 Mac version without too much problem, it was slow to load, but all in all it wasn't bad (faster than a lot of stuff on my PC). But CS3 works really well (it has a few bugs, but that will be taken care of I think by the time the finished version is released).
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03/27/2007 09:03:17 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by riot:
I have only one, not entirely constructive point to contribute to the discussion - ONE MOUSE BUTTON! I mean seriously, what's that all about? |
Funny, I never missed the other button so far. I love the shortcuts on the Mac :) |
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03/27/2007 09:06:03 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by riot:
I have only one, not entirely constructive point to contribute to the discussion - ONE MOUSE BUTTON! I mean seriously, what's that all about? |
All Macs now ship with a mouse with two buttons and a scroll ball/third button and a side pressing button, and they've been able to use two button mice for some times. |
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03/27/2007 09:06:17 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by riot:
I have only one, not entirely constructive point to contribute to the discussion - ONE MOUSE BUTTON! I mean seriously, what's that all about? |
Funny, I never missed the other button so far. I love the shortcuts on the Mac :) |
What do you mean, "other" singular? You mean not everyone has nine-button mice with bi-directional roller wheels?
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03/27/2007 09:12:40 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by riot:
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by riot:
I have only one, not entirely constructive point to contribute to the discussion - ONE MOUSE BUTTON! I mean seriously, what's that all about? |
Funny, I never missed the other button so far. I love the shortcuts on the Mac :) |
What do you mean, "other" singular? You mean not everyone has nine-button mice with bi-directional roller wheels? |
What?!?!? bi-directional roller wheels? And I thought I was missing just one button :))))
(I'm afraid I'm way "out-techied" here :) I don't even know what you're talking about)
Message edited by author 2007-03-27 21:13:40. |
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03/27/2007 09:21:23 PM · #23 |
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03/27/2007 09:43:10 PM · #24 |
Man, that's some ugly stuff! Feature before function? |
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03/27/2007 09:54:22 PM · #25 |
But, but, it's not white! :) |
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