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03/27/2007 03:31:50 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Shooting macros is best done from a tripod. This is due to the shallow dof and with a tripod you have much more control and better chance of a steady camera. Using a remote shutter release would help even more.
If you want to go to the extreme you could even use mirror lockup to avoid any shake caused by the mirror slap.
If the above suggestions are not an option then using a faster shutter speed could help. Though adjustments to the ISO, aperture are the amount of light on the bug would have to be made to compensate. |
I dont agree that the best way to shoot macro shots is with a tripod. Most times in a natural setting its not only impracticle but most likely impossible. All of the shots I took in This thread were handheld, and I could control the DOF to as small or as large as I wanted. The biggest problem as others have stated is the fact that she has done major cropping which takes away usable pixels and degrades the shot. All of mine are just as they came out of the camera minus some PP.
MattO
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03/27/2007 03:37:59 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by hsolakidis:
Raziel, how's that? |
Exactly what I need... I must just ask the seller what postage to South Africa will cost... |
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03/27/2007 03:45:32 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by hsolakidis:
Raziel, how's that? |
Anybody else nervous about buying from an eBay seller whose business is named Crooked Imaging? ;) |
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03/27/2007 03:47:10 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
As brownsm posted, try reversing the 50mm lens on the 18-55. you can do this with a very inexpensive "macro coupler". Both of these lenses have a 52mm filter thread, so you would need a 52mmm-52mm coupler. They are under $10.
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If you use tape to couple the lenses, as I have done in the past, it's even cheaper.
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03/27/2007 03:48:18 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by hsolakidis:
Raziel, how's that? |
Anybody else nervous about buying from an eBay seller whose business is named Crooked Imaging? ;) |
The seller has 2158 positive feedback and 0 negative feedback, can't be too crooked... |
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03/27/2007 03:59:47 PM · #31 |
| Ive bought loads from Crooked Imaging. First class service all the time. |
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03/27/2007 04:01:43 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Raziel:
Originally posted by _eug:
Anybody else nervous about buying from an eBay seller whose business is named Crooked Imaging? ;) |
The seller has 2158 positive feedback and 0 negative feedback, can't be too crooked... |
True, but it's almost as bad as the company in a NJ industrial park I saw this weekend called, Nu-Meat. WTF? You'd think someone would point out the obvious flaw in the names to them.
Alas, I've sidetracked things here. Back to our regularly scheduled discussion of Macros. |
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03/27/2007 04:19:57 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by Raziel:
Originally posted by _eug:
Anybody else nervous about buying from an eBay seller whose business is named Crooked Imaging? ;) |
The seller has 2158 positive feedback and 0 negative feedback, can't be too crooked... |
True, but it's almost as bad as the company in a NJ industrial park I saw this weekend called, Nu-Meat. WTF? You'd think someone would point out the obvious flaw in the names to them.
Alas, I've sidetracked things here. Back to our regularly scheduled discussion of Macros. |
To help get things back on track, here is another one of my macros using the reversed lens on the little Sony-W5...
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03/27/2007 04:37:17 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Raziel:
To help get things back on track, here is another one of my macros using the reversed lens on the little Sony-W5... |
Will any 50mm lens work? How did you attach it? And how do you focus through it? Can you use an older one built for a film camera?
Maybe I'll get myself a lens and play around.
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03/27/2007 04:53:39 PM · #35 |
another option without having to reverse the lens or spend a huge amount of money around $30 will get you a set of these, I used this same set on my d-50 for awhile before I bought a true macro. This would help eliminate the need to do the tight crops and you can save alot of detail.
You can find this filter set at most camera stores.
I like the name of the website I just linked to, However I have never heard of it til I googled the 1+2+4 set just now. So ordering from them would be an AYOR ...
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03/27/2007 05:07:53 PM · #36 |
reversing a lens onto the body can be as simple as holding it in place. remember, you don't have any control over aperture, and focus should be set to infinity. You'll accomplish focussing by simpling moving closer or further from the subject (often only millimeters means the difference between very sharp and un-useable. Edited to add: to set aperture, mount the lens correctly, set the aperture to f11 or so, and while pressing the DOF preview button, remove the lens. It should then be fixed at the smaller aperture. Mount it backwards, then shoot away.
For folks without an SLR, any old 50mm lens (faster is better) will work. Simply use wide open, and hold in front of the existing lens of your built-in lens. I've used an old Minolta f1.8 lens with success. If you have the ability to mount a filter adapter to the camera (I could do that with my Canon G2), can use step-up rings and macro adapters to mount "permanently", just like a filter!
I'll take a picture of my homemade adapter tonight, so folks can see how simple it is to make these.
Steve
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by Raziel:
To help get things back on track, here is another one of my macros using the reversed lens on the little Sony-W5... |
Will any 50mm lens work? How did you attach it? And how do you focus through it? Can you use an older one built for a film camera?
Maybe I'll get myself a lens and play around. |
Message edited by author 2007-03-27 17:15:48. |
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03/27/2007 05:10:14 PM · #37 |
this was my first entry on DPC (scored a 5th place finish). Taken with my 50mm lens, with 48 mm of extension between the lens and body. You don't need expensive macro lenses to get these shots.
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03/27/2007 07:28:11 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by brownsm:
this was my first entry on DPC (scored a 5th place finish). Taken with my 50mm lens, with 48 mm of extension between the lens and body. You don't need expensive macro lenses to get these shots.
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THAT is one awesome shot.
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03/27/2007 09:07:41 PM · #39 |
Here is the homemade adapter I made that enables me to mount lenses reversed on my Canon 20D. The modified body cap mounts to the camera body, leaving the 52mm threads exposed. I simply screw on the 50mm lens, just like I was attaching a filter. Simple, yet effective. And cost less than $15.
Message edited by author 2007-03-27 21:09:03. |
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03/27/2007 09:21:41 PM · #40 |
I was contemplating buying a macro lens, but the $30 I spent on the reversing ring is working just fine for me for now. I'm using it with the D50 and the 50mm f/1.8 lens just like you have, and it's great... especially for the price!
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03/27/2007 10:04:24 PM · #41 |
Lemme see if I've got this right.
I can buy an adapter for my camera that will take filters.
A reversing ring has double male threads - one side screws into my camera and the other side screws into the front of another lens? So from the lens's point of view, instead of getting a filter put up front it's getting my camera?
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03/27/2007 10:13:41 PM · #42 |
Yep. You got it.now for my disclaimer. Ive done this with my SLR. I don't know how this will work with a point and shoot where the reversed lens would be a little bit away from the body.so I would borrow someones lens and try it first. Ithink it will but I'm not 100% positive. Maybe I will try it tomorrow with my G2.Originally posted by levyj413:
Lemme see if I've got this right.
I can buy an adapter for my camera that will take filters.
A reversing ring has double male threads - one side screws into my camera and the other side screws into the front of another lens? So from the lens's point of view, instead of getting a filter put up front it's getting my camera? |
Message edited by author 2007-03-27 22:28:05. |
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03/27/2007 10:30:08 PM · #43 |
Some great info in this thread. I've been wanting to try some macro shooting, but don't have the money for a new lens. Now I have some alternatives.
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03/29/2007 06:38:00 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Lemme see if I've got this right.
I can buy an adapter for my camera that will take filters.
A reversing ring has double male threads - one side screws into my camera and the other side screws into the front of another lens? So from the lens's point of view, instead of getting a filter put up front it's getting my camera? |
That's exactly how I shot the spider a few posts up. I did have to zoom my camera all the way in, otherwise you see the barrel of the reversed lens. You also have to open the aperture up for the same reason. |
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03/29/2007 12:25:10 PM · #45 |
Here's a nice site that gives some info on how to shoot macros inexpensively.
//www.mplonsky.com/photo/article.htm#cam |
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03/29/2007 11:05:48 PM · #46 |
Kashi,
I would suggest the following:
First, I think your DOF is quite shallow with your focal length. In order to get good magnification, you need to be close to the subject which really reduces your DOF. Try closing the shutter a bit more, maybe f/22 or greater if you can.
Second, it looks as though light may be been good, so a faster shutter speed would help for a moving subject. 1/125 is a bit slow at that close range.
Those two points are in balance with each other, depending on the amount of light and your ISO speed.
Third, shoot in RAW (or whichever format Nikon's use) so that you have the maximum amount of data to apply USM, smart unsharp, high pass filtering, etc to help sharpen the details.
Fourth, use a tripod. I know this may be a bit hard with a moving subject, but I basically use a tripod as a third arm. I wrap my self around the camera and tripod controls to move the cameras as necessary whilst maintaining a steady central point of gravity.
Fifth, practice the above on a stationary object and work your way up to a moving object.
Good luck.
Paul
Message edited by author 2007-03-29 23:06:40. |
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