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03/25/2007 04:23:28 PM · #14

I read some of the FAQ and gave up. Whatever was asked there was a pat answer, nothing about the questions was ever wrong.

However, the people who thought this up haven't read their bible very well. There are two creations in Genesis, 'The Lord created man in his own likeness.' Six verses later: 'God created Adam'??

Also, the children of Adam and Eve married 'the sons of Man, and they were mighty'.

Christianity chooses to follow the 4 disciples, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. But, it also chooses to convienently forget the other gospels, Judas, Simon, Peter etc.

But, my biggest bugbear is: You will fear God Almighty!...but the Bible says he is a loving, forgiving God, so why fear him??? And he/she/it is vindictive, if you don't agree with what he says, you get zapped by bolt of lightning/turned to a pillar of salt/blasted off the face of the Earth (Soddam!), oh yes, nearly forgot...or drowned by a flood. Some loving God!!

TJinGuy has the right idea, get those photos, the streets are quiet on Sundays!

nova

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03/25/2007 04:32:23 PM · #15

I have never felt so hated. Thanks guys.

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.
...But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: 'They hated me without reason."

Membership cancelled.

03/25/2007 04:37:40 PM · #16

Originally posted by nova:

Sorry, you take this so personally. What happened to 'turn the other cheek'? Or does this only apply when there is some personal gratification? It is a delicate subject, start it at your peril, you have a world audience!

Jedusi

03/25/2007 04:45:13 PM · #17

Originally posted by formerlee:

What happened to 'turn the other cheek'? Or does this only apply when there is some personal gratification?

I have to say this seems unnecessary

Originally posted by formerlee:

It is a delicate subject, start it at your peril, you have a world audience!

I don't believe nova did start this thread. Where did that come from ?

nova

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03/25/2007 04:48:16 PM · #18

Originally posted by formerlee:

As for the first part of the question, well I take it personally because it is personal, very much so. As for Christ's teaching to turn the other cheek, I think I have done so; I'm not striking back, I'm just no longer participating. And as for being a delicate subject, you are correct there, but I didn't start it as you infer. Actually I feel that I have conducted myself at dpc in a very tolerant manner over the years: I have stated my beliefs periodically but I haven't attacked others for theirs. It really does seem to be the truth that the only group these days that are fair game for ridicule and vitriole are Christians. Maybe not, but from a Christian perspective, it sure seems so. But so that I am clear, I am not trying to be ugly or accusatory to anyone else in this matter, I have simply decided that it's time for me to move on.

...And I can hear it now: someone will wonder out loud, then why are you still logged on and hanging around typing in the threads?! (Am I right?) Well the reason is that I was cleaning out my profile before it gets cancelled - yes I've already typed a request in to the administrators to cancel it - but there is one photo that I've fav'd that is in a current challenge. And I can't cancel THAT one until the challenge ends, so I'm signed in, poking around to see if I can locate it. Maybe I won't be able to, and that's fine.

Best to you all.

Very sincerely,

Ray (nova)

03/25/2007 04:52:17 PM · #19

Originally posted by Jedusi:

Originally posted by formerlee:

What happened to 'turn the other cheek'? Or does this only apply when there is some personal gratification?

I have to say this seems unnecessary

Originally posted by formerlee:
It is a delicate subject, start it at your peril, you have a world audience!

I don't believe nova did start this thread. Where did that come from ?

Who rattled your cage?? nova stated 'I have never felt so hated, Thanks guys' No-one said they hated him?? Perhaps he doesn't agree with what has been said, no need to throw his rattle out of his pram!

No-one said he started the thread, what you quoted was a comment that taking that attitude was paramount to attracting a lot of flaming!

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03/25/2007 04:56:43 PM · #20

Originally posted by nova:

Originally posted by formerlee:

Sorry, you take this so personally. What happened to 'turn the other cheek'? Or does this only apply when there is some personal gratification? It is a delicate subject, start it at your peril, you have a world audience!

As for the first part of the question, well I take it personally because it is personal, very much so. As for Christ's teaching to turn the other cheek, I think I have done so; I'm not striking back, I'm just no longer participating. And as for being a delicate subject, you are correct there, but I didn't start it as you infer. Actually I feel that I have conducted myself at dpc in a very tolerant manner over the years: I have stated my beliefs periodically but I haven't attacked others for theirs. It really does seem to be the truth that the only group these days that are fair game for ridicule and vitriole are Christians. Maybe not, but from a Christian perspective, it sure seems so. But so that I am clear, I am not trying to be ugly or accusatory to anyone else in this matter, I have simply decided that it's time for me to move on.

...And I can hear it now: someone will wonder out loud, then why are you still logged on and hanging around typing in the threads?! (Am I right?) Well the reason is that I was cleaning out my profile before it gets cancelled - yes I've already typed a request in to the administrators to cancel it - but there is one photo that I've fav'd that is in a current challenge. And I can't cancel THAT one until the challenge ends, so I'm signed in, poking around to see if I can locate it. Maybe I won't be able to, and that's fine.

Best to you all.

Very sincerely,

Ray (nova)

What did I say that was a personal attack on you! I just asked OP who started this thread and all those who accepted what that FAQ site stated to re-read the Bible. I am sorry if you cannot accept what the Bible says, but I am merely quoting it?? If the answer is to run away when your beliefs are questioned, then you are very insecure.

hsolakidis

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03/25/2007 05:01:57 PM · #21

Oh no, another DPCer gone.... How are we gonna manage?

I never understood how a forum discussion can insult someone so much they leave the site.

Phil

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03/25/2007 05:09:15 PM · #22

Originally posted by formerlee:

I am certainly not religious but I don't see how your turn the other cheek comment applies here. Where did anyone lash back?

Now I do agree that the ol' "I quit" is a bit dramatic but for you to infer that nova was being a hypocrite was a bit out of line. According to most non believers, Christians aren't allowed to be human. Funny how some people don't believe a word of the bible but are quick to throw scripture towards a Christian's when they sin. Isn't it just as hypocritical (on a human level) for you to use the bible as a reference as it is for a Christian to go against it?

Like I said, I am hardly religious but just take a look at the tone of each thread. Miles apart.

Art Roflmao

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03/25/2007 05:16:09 PM · #23

I can understand why people leave over things like this. It is as a few in this thread have stated - Christians are fair game for ridicule, but all other groups are off limits. Attacks on people's faith are personal attacks. Just as attacks on a particular race or sexual orientation are not tolerated, I do not see why Christianity is an exception. I've seen a lot of it over the few years I have been here and I try to ignore it because I am not here to engage in that topic, but much of it is very hard to ignore.

I've seen rational debates and discussions on religion also, so it hasn't all been vitriolic, but when it is, it sure seems to get past the forum police.

Really makes me sick.

03/25/2007 05:20:49 PM · #24

Originally posted by dudephil:

You haven't taken this in context with the site referred to: It is very easy to make a comment based on the thread, but the thread refers to this GOD FAQ, all the answers were taken from the Bible with quotes. I am not hitting on Christians, everyone is allowed to believe in what they want. I just drew their attention to what they were quoting. Christian use the Bible as a reference, all I have done is suggest they re-read the Bible. I was raised a Christian, so don't throw that garbage at me about non-believers. But people need to read what they quote, before quoting it.

This is a very personal subject, so those who don't think they can turn the other cheek, should not participate. Nova took this as a personal attack on his beliefs. None attacked his beliefs, had they done so, I would have been the first to defend him. But he has chosen the martyr route.

blindjustice