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03/22/2007 10:49:21 AM · #1
I have a gift certificate burning a hole in my pocket and I need to make a decision on a which filter to buy before it expires. I'm debating between a split neutral density or a circular polarizer. Which filter do you use the most and under what conditions? Thank you.

Alecia
03/22/2007 11:12:31 AM · #2
It is burning a hole! Whoa! Send it to me right away, I will end your pain for you!

I have a polarizer and love the results. If you take a lot of water shots it is the way to go. I also find that it gives me richer skys. As far as the ND, I dunno. Never used one.
03/22/2007 11:12:38 AM · #3
Polarizer... hands down. Numerous uses for it... bluer skies, harsh reflections, cutting through haze (to an extent), seeing into water more, and it gives more overall saturation to your outdoor photos.

If you were to get a split ND, I would go for a Cokin or similar filter system. A screw on split ND would put the split right in the middle of your shot with no up/down/side adjustments, just turning it to an angle. This doesn't give you much room for composition. The Cokin type is a plate of glass the mounts in front of your lens and you can move it up/down to where your horizon is in your composition.
03/22/2007 11:14:28 AM · #4
I have a polarizer and find it pretty useful ... as the previous posters have said, water, sky, relfections on glass ...etc ...
03/22/2007 11:53:19 AM · #5
A polarizer is a must have.
03/22/2007 11:58:12 AM · #6
If you don't have a polarizer, get one. You will kick yourself a billion times while out that you can't take a shot because you don't have a polarizer filter.

Take it from one that doesn't have one and kicks herself quite often :)
03/22/2007 12:00:18 PM · #7
Originally posted by Telehubbie:

Polarizer... hands down. Numerous uses for it... bluer skies, harsh reflections, cutting through haze (to an extent), seeing into water more, and it gives more overall saturation to your outdoor photos.


What he said. A split ND filter is only useful for landscapes in certain situations, but a good CP will stay on your camera most of the time.
03/22/2007 12:02:50 PM · #8
Another vote for a polarizer. Do get a multi-coated one. Your lens situation is such that you'll also want a step ring. Get the filter in 77mm (to fit the 10-22) and get a 77mm to 67mm step-down ring to use it on the 28-75.
03/22/2007 12:06:14 PM · #9
Originally posted by pearlseyes:

I'm debating between a split neutral density or a circular polarizer. Which filter do you use the most and under what conditions? Thank you.

Agree with the others that a polarizer is a best first choice. Neutral density is the the best second choice and the one you want to get next.

In filters it is nice to buy one that will fit lenses of multiple thread sizes if that is true in your case. It will cost more but worth it.
03/22/2007 12:26:29 PM · #10
Originally posted by kirbic:

Another vote for a polarizer. Do get a multi-coated one. Your lens situation is such that you'll also want a step ring. Get the filter in 77mm (to fit the 10-22) and get a 77mm to 67mm step-down ring to use it on the 28-75.

A couple of thoughts/observations...

For the 10-22 lens you'll want a "thin" filter I'd imagine, to eliminate vignetting.

Regarding the 28-75 lens (I haven't looked to see what it is), using a step-down ring is beneficial for keeping expense down (only need one filter), but one thing to consider is your use of a lens hood. Do you use a lens hood on your 28-75 often? If yes, the hood will not fit with the step-down ring. Another consideration, if you do use a lens hood is it configured where you can still get a finger on the polarizer ring (to move it)?

One last thought, a lens with IF is easier to use a CP filter with I've found because you're not worrying about the lens barrel moving on you and screwing up the ideal positioning of the CP filter.
03/22/2007 12:44:13 PM · #11
FYI: My step-down ring is stuck to the filter ! I thought I was saving $ but I can't remove it for the life of me ...

Anyway the CP is great but the step-up/down thing DOES mess-up the lens hood situation and can get stuck.

Additionally, I'm not sure if anyone mentioned that there are THIN ... ooops - edit to say that the post right beofre me mentioned this ;P.DUH

Not to bogart this thread but anyone have any ideas for separating the filter from the step-ring?

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Originally posted by pearlseyes:

I'm debating between a split neutral density or a circular polarizer. Which filter do you use the most and under what conditions? Thank you.

Agree with the others that a polarizer is a best first choice. Neutral density is the the best second choice and the one you want to get next.

In filters it is nice to buy one that will fit lenses of multiple thread sizes if that is true in your case. It will cost more but worth it.


Message edited by author 2007-03-22 12:47:39.
03/22/2007 01:07:08 PM · #12
Note that a Circular Polarizer does weird things on a really wide angle lens. If you shot a landscape with your 10-22, you'd get a dark vertical stripe where the polarization is strongest, and lighter color off to the sides (vertical shots are OK). For that reason, I rarely use a polarizer on the 10-22, but it practically LIVES on my 28-75.
03/22/2007 01:21:31 PM · #13
Why not get both? get the polarizer first then save up for the ND. I have had plenty of landscape shots that were saved (from blown out skies) by having my cheap ND filter.
03/22/2007 05:07:05 PM · #14
Originally posted by metatate:

Not to bogart this thread but anyone have any ideas for separating the filter from the step-ring?


Freeze it.
03/22/2007 05:35:22 PM · #15
Originally posted by metatate:

FYI: My step-down ring is stuck to the filter ! I thought I was saving $ but I can't remove it for the life of me ...


Filter wrenches. They live in my bag for that exact reason. I have a number of step-up and step-down rings to fit different lenses and filters.
03/23/2007 09:30:49 AM · #16
That sounds great. I 'll need both I think (the larger size) because they are both so thin that I can't hold it with my gigantic hands ;P

As far as freezing, I might try that but I'm afraid I'll forget it an someone wiill toss a box of veggie-burgers on top of it or something =0

Originally posted by chimericvisions:


Filter wrenches. They live in my bag for that exact reason. I have a number of step-up and step-down rings to fit different lenses and filters.


Message edited by author 2007-03-23 09:32:00.
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