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03/20/2007 07:22:51 PM · #1
Other than the mp difference, does it really matter? Dh made an offer on a D70 for me for my bday- a pro friend is selling his since he just bought his second D200. I had my eyes on the D80 but was going to wait till fall when dh got his bonus.

Thoughts anyone? Wait till fall or go with the D70 at a much lower price coming with a lens- not sure what lens at the moment but he said it's an 18mm to something and normally costs around 300 dollars new.

03/20/2007 07:24:07 PM · #2
Im not going to say a word *Zips mouth shut and points at her camera*
03/20/2007 07:34:35 PM · #3
IMO the D80 is a major upgrade from the D70. Unless you are getting an astounding deal on the D70, get the D80.
03/20/2007 07:51:42 PM · #4
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Message edited by author 2007-03-23 15:34:12.
03/20/2007 07:58:01 PM · #5
I stopped at the same camera store and after talking to the girl she asked if i wanted to play with a live D200.

Outside of that i have a artifact grudge on the D70 and would rather have any other nikon then it.

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 19:58:22.
03/20/2007 08:03:07 PM · #6
The D70 is a great camera. I still use mine every day along with my D200. If you are getting it at a greatly reduced price go for it. If you are only saving a couple hundred, go for the D80.
03/20/2007 08:21:29 PM · #7
Originally posted by tooohip:

The D70 is a great camera. I still use mine every day along with my D200. If you are getting it at a greatly reduced price go for it. If you are only saving a couple hundred, go for the D80.


Well hubby offered him 700 for the camera and the lens.

He had 2 D70's- gave one to his daughter when he bought his first D200. It's been well taken care of, never dropped, or anything and the lens he's selling with it is a portrait lens- like I said, not sure which one but new it sells for 300 from what hubby said.

We don't have a couple hundred above what dh offered to buy the D80- we would in the fall when he gets his bonus, but that bonus is more for a new truck for him and going into investments. I don't want to be buying toys with that money.

I know it would be an upgrade from my Oly mainly because I'd be able to buy a telephoto lens which I can't do right now for my Oly.
03/20/2007 08:27:49 PM · #8
$779 @ Beach Camera and Beach has a pretty good rep.

I would wait for the D80 unless he came down a few more bucks.

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 20:28:09.
03/20/2007 08:40:11 PM · #9
Well I think I'll call him tomorrow and find out exactly what lens he is selling with it because hubby doesn't know. If it's the 18-70mm lens then I think I'll have him wait. I did fine a new unopened d70 bundle in ebay for 899 comes with 3 lenses, hard case, tripod, 4gb card, ect. So depending on what lens this is coming with I may just have hubby order the one online. I would say go for the D80, but that's not just a couple hundred more. We're talking 4 to 5k more and that's a lot more then we can spend. I could of course sell my Oly, but I'm a little attached and want to keep it for backup.
03/20/2007 08:43:11 PM · #10
Originally posted by missinseattle:

Well I think I'll call him tomorrow and find out exactly what lens he is selling with it because hubby doesn't know. If it's the 18-70mm lens then I think I'll have him wait. I did fine a new unopened d70 bundle in ebay for 899 comes with 3 lenses, hard case, tripod, 4gb card, ect. So depending on what lens this is coming with I may just have hubby order the one online. I would say go for the D80, but that's not just a couple hundred more. We're talking 4 to 5k more and that's a lot more then we can spend. I could of course sell my Oly, but I'm a little attached and want to keep it for backup.


4 or 5k? EDIT "what" are you on. A D200 with a 18-200 and a Sigma Macro flash wouldnt cost 4 or 5k. Maybe 4 at the most but anyways not the poitn thats a 1700 dollar body.

A d80 kit is what 1299?

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 20:48:59.
03/20/2007 08:48:30 PM · #11
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

4 or 5k? wtf are you on. A D200 with a 18-200 and a Sigma Macro flash wouldnt cost 4 or 5k. Maybe 4 at the most but anyways not the poitn thats a 1700 dollar body.

A d80 kit is what 1299?


Please try to remember you are talking to a young LADY here and keep some manners. there are other ways of letting her know she has made a mistake in her pricing..

thank you.
03/20/2007 08:50:38 PM · #12
OKay edited slighlty. Still sounds real out of whack. Im sure she is mature enough to handle someone 10 years younger then her though.

Now maybe some other currency would bring on this price range. But i cant think of anythign else maybe 4 or 500 but i neve rheard someone using K for that description.

Theres also very little to say i actually think she made a mistake. My first real though its price range of a Canon 1d. My second though is the Nikon line up wouldnt cause that much fo a price confusion.

My now current though is maybe thats added with cost of lenses and memory card compared tot he ebay kit?

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 20:53:43.
03/20/2007 08:58:41 PM · #13
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:


4 or 5k? EDIT "what" are you on. A D200 with a 18-200 and a Sigma Macro flash wouldnt cost 4 or 5k. Maybe 4 at the most but anyways not the poitn thats a 1700 dollar body.


4k what in the hell are you smoking. those 3 things are only $2,500 you are getting ripped off!:P

for the record I would wait for the d80 if you can.

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 21:00:23.
03/20/2007 09:07:10 PM · #14
Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:


4 or 5k? EDIT "what" are you on. A D200 with a 18-200 and a Sigma Macro flash wouldnt cost 4 or 5k. Maybe 4 at the most but anyways not the poitn thats a 1700 dollar body.


4k what in the hell are you smoking. those 3 things are only $2,500 you are getting ripped off!:P

for the record I would wait for the d80 if you can.


Just to shoot it lets see.
Nikon D200 Body = 1700 (can get for cheaper)
18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED-IF AF-S VR DX Zoom-Nikkor = 800 (could get a 50 dollar rebate)
Sigma Macro ring flash = 350 Bucks.
Total = 2800

As i said "wouldnt cost 4 or 5k." That means WOULD NOT. I threw in some high dollar equipment versus buying a D80 kit both being under what the OP said soemthing about. But until she gets back to use i cant really understand what she was talking about

But now that i have a good total..... u know i might reconsider that K10D...... might just.... GIVE ME IT NOW.... Waaaaaaahhhh!

Yeah anyways D80 all the way. I really want a ring flash is that sigma any good [/hijack]

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 21:08:53.
03/20/2007 09:36:25 PM · #15
I'll give you the biggest reason to get a D80 over a D70, better focusing system! Hands down the real reason you should decide between the two.

Nikon does "trickle down manufacturing"
D70 is the child of the D100
D80 is the child of the D200

The technology in the D70 is actually quite old now as it was passed down from the D100 (circa 2002). While still a stellar camera, unless you are getting a huge price break go for the D80. Focus system, color matrix, sensor are the main things that have been updated.
03/20/2007 09:39:33 PM · #16
Originally posted by jaysonmc:

I'll give you the biggest reason to get a D80 over a D70, better focusing system! Hands down the real reason you should decide between the two.

Nikon does "trickle down manufacturing"
D70 is the child of the D100
D80 is the child of the D200



You may be somewhat correct regarding the D80/D200, but there is no way in hell that the D70 is the child of the D100. It's a completely new beast and much better at auto focusing as well as everything else when compared to the D100.
03/20/2007 09:40:19 PM · #17
I think that is of course suspected of any manufacturer but i didnt know the exact details. Good to know.
03/20/2007 09:42:42 PM · #18
Well, we all know she meant $400 to $500 more. No need to ridicule someone who makes a simple error. Anyway, the consensus seems to be for her to wait on the 80.
03/20/2007 09:44:06 PM · #19
Originally posted by David Ey:

Well, we all know she meant $400 to $500 more. No need to ridicule someone who makes a simple error. Anyway, the consensus seems to be for her to wait on the 80.


I wasnt ridiculing. All i said was what are you on or wtf in the original case. I guess thats abnormal in the rest of the world. I think i have 8 Technicians ask me that a day when they get a wrong part.

Originally posted by jaysonmc:


go for the D80. Focus system, color matrix, sensor are the main things that have been updated.


I havent had the chance to use a live D80. Read about some exposure consistency issues anyone back that up?

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 22:40:42.
03/20/2007 09:46:17 PM · #20
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Originally posted by David Ey:

Well, we all know she meant $400 to $500 more. No need to ridicule someone who makes a simple error. Anyway, the consensus seems to be for her to wait on the 80.


I wasnt ridiculing. All i said was what are you on or wtf in the original case. I guess thats abnormal in the rest of the world. I think i have 8 Technicians ask me that a day when they get a wrong part.


I think the point is that it was not necessary.

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 21:46:51.
03/20/2007 09:48:13 PM · #21
Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Originally posted by David Ey:

Well, we all know she meant $400 to $500 more. No need to ridicule someone who makes a simple error. Anyway, the consensus seems to be for her to wait on the 80.


I wasnt ridiculing. All i said was what are you on or wtf in the original case. I guess thats abnormal in the rest of the world. I think i have 8 Technicians ask me that a day when they get a wrong part.


I think the point is that it was not necessary.


I think the point was taken by the person needing to taken the point (ME) the first post that said somethign about it. So unles you want to drag out the hijack.... can we end it or feel free to PM me. Ill email all day.

Done

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 22:40:33.
03/20/2007 10:20:52 PM · #22
Originally posted by missinseattle:

I know it would be an upgrade from my Oly mainly because I'd be able to buy a telephoto lens which I can't do right now for my Oly.


If all you want is a telephoto, then I'd recommend buying a superzoom point and shoot. You're taking nice photos now with your current camera, and any of the superzooms would add that feature. I happen to love my S2 IS, and the S3 IS adds a few bells and whistles, but I've read very good things about the offerings from the other manufacturers, too. My S2 IS can take the equivalent of somewhere between 300 and 400 mm, depending on what claims you believe. I know I've seen amazing results with it.

Yes, DSLRs offer some real benefits, but think hard about sinking that kind of money into it just to get a better telephoto. Added bonuses of sticking with a point and shoot include lower weight, only one thing to lug around, and the superzooms take terrific video (as a father of young kids, I really appreciate having to use only one thing to shoot birthday parties, etc.)

In other words, there are pluses and minuses of jumping to a DSLR; it's not the right choice for everyone, esp. if money is an issue.

Message edited by author 2007-03-20 22:32:04.
03/20/2007 10:23:39 PM · #23
Very good points.
03/20/2007 10:40:02 PM · #24
have you thought about the D-50 you would get nearly the same features as the d-70 same MP and they also have a 2 Lens Kit which you could probably find for around $800 US ..

Edit to include, Perhaps finding a D-50 would be hard to do, It seems that Nikon has stopped making it. I just looked at some of the retail giants web sites Best Buy Circuit City etc, No one has them. Nikons website no longer shows it in the line up with the other DSLR's



Message edited by author 2007-03-20 23:40:11.
03/21/2007 01:04:49 AM · #25
Originally posted by tooohip:

Originally posted by jaysonmc:

I'll give you the biggest reason to get a D80 over a D70, better focusing system! Hands down the real reason you should decide between the two.

Nikon does "trickle down manufacturing"
D70 is the child of the D100
D80 is the child of the D200



You may be somewhat correct regarding the D80/D200, but there is no way in hell that the D70 is the child of the D100. It's a completely new beast and much better at auto focusing as well as everything else when compared to the D100.


Like I said "child". Both the D100 and D70 use the exact same 5-sensor CAM900 AF module. Pretty much the same sensor design, just a different manufacturer. If you shoot JPEG and high ISO the D70 would have been better, but that is just due to better algorithms/firmware. Most all of the benefits are with firmware.

If you look at a D80 it has better high ISO noise performance than a D200. Not because the sensor is better, just better optimizations.

Even the D40 is better than the D70 as far as pure IQ, same sensor design. Trickle down manufacturing...
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