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03/15/2007 05:35:47 PM · #1 |
As many of you know I'm a big fan of Bibble. One of the big things I like about it is the multi-processor support, so it's fast. When I do a big ballet shoot I take thousands of pictures though and I thought an upgrade of the 'ol computer was in order.
Looking at price/performance charts I decided to get an Athlon 64 X2 5400+. This required a new motherboard, RAM, video card, memory and harddrive. In order to take full advantage of my new 64-bit prcessor I thought what the hell, I'll throw in 64-bit Vista as well...
yea... that's not looking like such a great idea now. Bibble won't run on 64-bit. Nikon Capture NX won't run on 64-bit. ACDsee Pro won't run on 64-bit. My printer won't run on 64-bit.
I have CS2 which I haven't installed yet because I always just used Bibble and Capture NX. Now I'm up Vista creek without a paddle. It's sucking my will to do photography at all (right now I can't even view the shots on my computer!). Anyone have any suggestions on 64-bit Vista capable software that is fast and can easily fix hundreds (or thousands) of pictures at a time?
Ugh.
Message edited by author 2007-03-15 17:36:22. |
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03/15/2007 05:47:06 PM · #2 |
Killing Bill Gates aside....
Consider installing a second hard drive and multi-OS boot. Or perhaps, use your 64-bit Vista to run a "Virtual Machine" and install Vista standard or XP. |
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03/15/2007 05:49:41 PM · #3 |
I have vista x64 running on an Athlon 64 3000+ and I've had similar troubles. I've finally got CS2 working, but my Epson printr R2400 fpints offset by about 1 inch vert and horizontal. Sort of screws up printing a little.
As for batch processing I'm not going to be any help, although I can tell you iMatch image management works fine on the x64
Good luck. |
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03/15/2007 06:11:58 PM · #4 |
Well when i beta Test 32bit Beta 2 my video input card didnt have drivers but they were quick to put out in RC1.
My printer had drivers from day 1.
As far as the 64 bit Hardware compatability that is 99% the fault of the hardware manufacturers.
Software issues in 64 bit 60% microsoft 40% Software writer.
These issues were present in XP x64 and fair warning was given by the media to consumers. Just not by microsoft. Thats not their job them giving you the warning is like a used car salesman actually telling u whats wrong with the car.
The dual boot is probly gonna be your best bet.
I dual booted Vista RC-1 ontop of an XP install. The dual boot setup is an option from the vista disk after youve already installed XP. Just goto advanced when it asks to select the drive.
DUal Boot is a bit easier then it was back in the OS/2 Win95 days. |
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03/16/2007 03:05:14 PM · #5 |
ACDsee 9 now supports 64-bit Vista (Pro should soon as well) so at least I can see my pictures again.
My intent is for this thread to act as a bit of a warning for people considering 64-bit Vista as well. |
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03/16/2007 03:23:48 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
Killing Bill Gates aside....
Consider installing a second hard drive and multi-OS boot. Or perhaps, use your 64-bit Vista to run a "Virtual Machine" and install Vista standard or XP. |
This has nothing to do with Bill Gates. In Fact you should be thanking Microsoft for Developing a 64-bit system. Its other software developers you should kill for not making a 64 bit version.
64 Bit is great but not widely supported. But if more people use 64 Bit OS's and hardware more software will support it. But for now go 32 bit.
BTW Vista sucks.
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 15:24:44. |
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03/16/2007 04:37:58 PM · #7 |
This isn't meant to be a Mac vs PC post, however . . . since you have to buy all new harware, all new software, and all you end up with is Vista, which is getting medium reviews at best, you might want to take a look at Mac OS X. It's been 64 bit for a long time, and it is far more secure.
If you use Photoshop on the PC you can get a cross grade to the Mac for the same price as an upgrade.
Just a thought.
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03/16/2007 04:43:48 PM · #8 |
I had 64 bit XP and after months of agonizing, I installed 32 bit. Almost nothing (hardware wise) will work with 64 bit. Maybe they'll make drives for Vista cause it's the new OP but no one bothered to make drivers for most things for XP 64 bit. It was really annoying. To be honest, I don't notice any difference on performance between the two and I wish I had gone with 32 bit from the start.
June
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03/16/2007 05:25:22 PM · #9 |
| well I will say that all my hardware has been supported so far with the exception of my Epson printer. |
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03/16/2007 05:28:57 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
well I will say that all my hardware has been supported so far with the exception of my Epson printer. |
Just found my serial port graphos tablet is not supported in x64 - needs to be a USB version apparently ;-( |
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03/16/2007 05:35:26 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
This isn't meant to be a Mac vs PC post, however . . . since you have to buy all new harware, all new software, and all you end up with is Vista, which is getting medium reviews at best, you might want to take a look at Mac OS X. |
If you're a long-time Windows guy, don't go Mac. You'll hate it. I was forced to used OSX for a while just to familiarize myself with it for customers' sakes, and it was agonizingly unintuitive for me. I don't know where all the mediocre reviews of Vista are coming from, but we use it at home, at work, and on recently purchased laptops. Best OS ever. But you'll regret the decision to use 64bit - 32bit is the way to go for now. |
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03/16/2007 05:50:37 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by scarbrd:
This isn't meant to be a Mac vs PC post, however . . . since you have to buy all new harware, all new software, and all you end up with is Vista, which is getting medium reviews at best, you might want to take a look at Mac OS X. |
If you're a long-time Windows guy, don't go Mac. You'll hate it. I was forced to used OSX for a while just to familiarize myself with it for customers' sakes, and it was agonizingly unintuitive for me. I don't know where all the mediocre reviews of Vista are coming from, but we use it at home, at work, and on recently purchased laptops. Best OS ever. But you'll regret the decision to use 64bit - 32bit is the way to go for now. |
I agree, I like Vista a lot actually. I think I just adopted the 64-bit version a bit prematurely - at least for photography. You'd think in a market where lots of RAM is a necessity the digital photo market would be running to 64-bit. |
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03/16/2007 06:26:40 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by scarbrd:
This isn't meant to be a Mac vs PC post, however . . . since you have to buy all new harware, all new software, and all you end up with is Vista, which is getting medium reviews at best, you might want to take a look at Mac OS X. |
If you're a long-time Windows guy, don't go Mac. You'll hate it. I was forced to used OSX for a while just to familiarize myself with it for customers' sakes, and it was agonizingly unintuitive for me. I don't know where all the mediocre reviews of Vista are coming from, but we use it at home, at work, and on recently purchased laptops. Best OS ever. But you'll regret the decision to use 64bit - 32bit is the way to go for now. |
I don't know about "unintuitive". I switched recently and have not found it all that difficult. Sure, there is a learning curve coming from only ever knowing PC, but it's not that big of a deal. However, I actually still have both as I kept my PC for everyday stuff and use the Mac almost exclusively for photography. |
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03/17/2007 10:27:53 AM · #14 |
I have Vista x64 installed and have found a problem with Photoshop CS2 printing.
When printing CS hands over to Windows for the generic printer dialogue, and in XP it allowed a call to the 'print options' dialogue which is specific to Epson. In windows vista this call out has been moved until AFTER you commit to print. Its only when vista has finished do you get a chance to change the settings in the epson driver, for example the size, orientation, paper type etc.
The problem manifests itself in that these changes to settings made in the epson component don't appear to be honoured and are ignored.
Epson claim this is a fault od CS2 - I can't buy that at all. The epson driver is obviously not written with the new vista workflow in mind, or maybe the vista workflow is wrong.
Either way the workround is to set the printer defaults in control panel BEFORE entering CS2, that means you have to come out and change potentially before each image.
What a pile of sh....t!!
Now where are my XP disks. |
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03/17/2007 10:40:54 AM · #15 |
Ten years ago this thread would have been "32-bit Windows NT Woes". Back then everyone was using Windows 95, which was actually a 16 bit system, but I had the robust Windows NT 3.5, a modern, fully 32-bit system. Trouble was you couldn't get drivers and lots of Windows software wouldn't run under it. I actually had much better results running Windows software on an OS/2 system.
The moral to all of this is you want to pick the OS for the software you are running and not the other way around!
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03/17/2007 10:59:34 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by talmy:
Ten years ago this thread would have been "32-bit Windows NT Woes". Back then everyone was using Windows 95, which was actually a 16 bit system, but I had the robust Windows NT 3.5, a modern, fully 32-bit system. Trouble was you couldn't get drivers and lots of Windows software wouldn't run under it. I actually had much better results running Windows software on an OS/2 system.
The moral to all of this is you want to pick the OS for the software you are running and not the other way around! |
Its okay remember Win32s? Used it to run 32 bit applications on 16 bit windows (3.1 and NT) on a 32 bit processor. |
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