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03/14/2007 06:29:22 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by inshaala:
I think that is within the first 10. |
It is. :)
You might also consider stopping down the lens more for greater depth of field, but I really don't think it needs it. |
It was already at f/20 - any further and i think detail would be lost ;) I reversed my 50mm on the end of my sigma to get the magnification
Thanks for your comments, i thought there was something i was missing too. It is reassuring to think someone else appreciated what i did but also slightly demoralising that there was hardly anything i could do with the shot to get a better score (lighting it was out of the question because it sat about a centimetre away from the rear element of my 50mm).
Thanks for your time to critique the shot :)
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03/14/2007 06:45:56 PM · #27 |
I think this is the 10th? :) |
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03/14/2007 10:15:31 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by tivo:
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Positives:
Excellent 1st DPC submission. Composition is good. Framing to emphasize those interesting clouds is the right choice. Sepia gives the image a feeling of impending storminess. It is visually appealing.
Technicals:
This is nicely done all the way around. Classic horizon on the lower rule of thirds line, lighting and exposure are right. Great tonality and it lacks serious digital defects. The near foreground looks a touch soft but the clouds are great.
The Challenge:
Free study challenges are tough because voters set very high expectations for technical excellence. This image is done well and that explains its above average score and 67% ranking. 5.8 is considered a good score by most DPC voters.
Suggestions:
Though you probably have little control over this the lighthouse is very small in the frame. You might consider a tighter crop to allow it to take up more image real estate. It would be tough to decide the crop, though. You may not have control over this either, but if there were some near foregrond object that to could be include in the frame (like a rock, bush or tree) it would add more viewer interest to an image that already has quite a bit.
You should be pleased with this first effort. Look forward to seeing more.
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03/15/2007 12:08:49 AM · #29 |
Wow! Thank you very much. I feel more confident now and looking forward to joining the next challenge.
I bought my Nikon D50 only 3 months ago, and during this time I learned a mountain of new things about photography, and this picture was my first effort in producing a "good" picture.
I dream of winning a ribbon one day. I have learned SO MUCH from DPC in the past 3 months, and I thank everyone in this great community for sharing their knowledge and their creativity.
By the way, here is a picture that was taken on the same windy day at the spot. The photographer was closer to the walkway to the lighthouse and took a picture of the waves crashing over the walkway.
//www.flickr.com/photos/fdeg/402393049/ |
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03/15/2007 12:43:08 AM · #30 |
| Thanx a ton 4r the detailed analysis.I agree with the observations , i will try to keep all this in my mind next time :) |
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03/15/2007 12:50:59 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Positives:
Oh boy! How could this image score so poorly? It is the type of image that makes me shake my head. It is technically a very good picture. There is so much to like about it technically. Framing is good, lighting and color are very good. What is wrong with it? I'd love to know what people think is wrong with this photograph to justify such a incredibly low score. Do tell? I'm listening.
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I understand that it is a shallow depth of field but the out of focus part is right in the middle and you cannot help but staring at it. However, I don't think that's the main reason for a low mark.
A picture that doesn't ignite (no pun intended!) an emotional response will probably get a low score regardless of how technically correct it is. Myself I use the "wall" test: Would I like this picture framed and put on a wall where I can see it every day? In this particular case, my answer would be no. There is a quote that I've seen on some signatures around here: "To take a photograph is to align the head, the eye and the heart." Yes, this picture might have the head and the eye aligned but not the heart. And that's the hardest part... I hope inshaala won't get upset, this is my candid, not necessarily qualified opinion. |
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03/15/2007 02:10:28 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by AGrigorof:
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A picture that doesn't ignite (no pun intended!) an emotional response will probably get a low score regardless of how technically correct it is. Myself I use the "wall" test: Would I like this picture framed and put on a wall where I can see it every day? In this particular case, my answer would be no. There is a quote that I've seen on some signatures around here: "To take a photograph is to align the head, the eye and the heart." Yes, this picture might have the head and the eye aligned but not the heart. And that's the hardest part... I hope inshaala won't get upset, this is my candid, not necessarily qualified opinion. |
You must be right... perhaps to most viewers this image is dull and uninteresting. The whole idea for seeking its critique is to help understand the low score and your explanation is quite plausible. There has to be reasons for it that transcends its technical aspects.
For my DPC critiques, right or wrong, I give more value to technical merit than esoteric issues like emotional response or DNMC. My reasoning is simple. Most DPCers are at a very basic level in their understanding of photography where learning how to improve their images technically is probably more valuable information to them than subjective issues like DNMC or human emotional response. Not to say they are not important, they are, but we need to grow one step at a time.
Good technicals are the fundamental building blocks of great imagery. There are few things more disappointing than great ideas poorly implemented.
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03/15/2007 09:04:41 PM · #33 |
Hey, thanks for the additional input Agrigorof. I think you may be right - and no i'm not offended, on the contrary, i am grateful you took the time to explain it. I am going through a period in my photography where i am teaching myself fundamentals and the technical aspects, which probably means i have it backward in your estimation stdavidson ;) I suppose i missed the crucial factor: people are voting... and subjectivity and emotion come into play when that happens.
I would put it on my wall tho, but maybe that's just me ;) |
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