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01/25/2006 11:07:22 PM · #1
I just got my D200 a few hours ago. And now I can't figure out whether I should put the RAW compression to ON or OFF.

What should I do?

and why?
01/25/2006 11:11:00 PM · #2
Off because then it won't compress it.
01/25/2006 11:12:28 PM · #3
"The raw compression seems lossless however Nikon warns that there is "little drop in quality" (page 31 in manual) which suggests there is a loss in quality. I suspect this is response to the weiners who whined when the D70 only had compressed raw. I suspect the D200 uses the same raw compression they've always used, which is lossless save for a 10 to 8 bit log curve shaping which is invisible to me anyway. I'd rather save about 10 MB per file! Of course the weiners who shoot raw worry about this stuff. " - Ken Rockwell (www.kenrockwell.com)

That help?


01/25/2006 11:17:22 PM · #4
Originally posted by deapee:

"The raw compression seems lossless however Nikon warns that there is "little drop in quality" (page 31 in manual) which suggests there is a loss in quality. I suspect this is response to the weiners who whined when the D70 only had compressed raw. I suspect the D200 uses the same raw compression they've always used, which is lossless save for a 10 to 8 bit log curve shaping which is invisible to me anyway. I'd rather save about 10 MB per file! Of course the weiners who shoot raw worry about this stuff. " - Ken Rockwell (www.kenrockwell.com)

That help?


I just read that before posting this... but Ken's suspicions shouldn't be taken too seriously.

I'm actually wondering whether anyone did the test.
01/25/2006 11:20:59 PM · #5
for the brief two weeks i had the camera i shot compressed
6-7Meg / file

i haven't bought more cards so i'm still using 1gig * 3x512M so untill i can afford more space compressed it will be (ONCE I GET MY (&)*!& camera back ...)

only real hassle is the 2-4 sec it takes to open it in Capture ...
01/25/2006 11:28:12 PM · #6
Originally posted by labuda:

I just read that before posting this... but Ken's suspicions shouldn't be taken too seriously.

I'm actually wondering whether anyone did the test.


I don't know...as much as people pick over his stuff and scrutinize him publicly, he is a pretty knowledgeable guy...somewhat opinionated, yes, but he knows his stuff none the less...I've learned a lot from his site.

EDIT: Heck, I'd link to his RAW vs. JPEG article, but I'm trying not to get off-topic here hehe.

Message edited by author 2006-01-25 23:28:47.
03/11/2007 07:37:42 AM · #7
my D200 shoots 15mb uncompressed and 7-8mb compressed ... i shoot compressed for that reason.

if there's a slight loss, i can't see it ... and it opens no problems in adobe bridge and other software viewers.

is there are seriously good reason not to use compressed raw?? especially considering i'm getting 2:1 ratio on shots with compression?

btw, my D200 doesn't give an accurate shot count with compressed raw. it still bases the remaining photo count on uncompressed raw, but it does update constantly ... meaning that the counter drops 1 for every 2 photos i take..
03/11/2007 11:00:27 AM · #8
Originally posted by labuda:

I just got my D200 a few hours ago. And now I can't figure out whether I should put the RAW compression to ON or OFF.

What should I do?

and why?


If HD space <= 300GB Then compression ON

If HD space >= 300 GB Then compression OFF

You lose a little information in the highlights with it ON. I've
never been able to tell the difference. The difference is there and if you shoot weddings you might want to keep compression OFF.

Edit: MB ehehhehehehehheheheheheheh

Message edited by author 2007-03-11 11:03:47.
03/11/2007 01:36:12 PM · #9
I used to be a purist and still am. At one time I shot uncompressed .avi video, too, instead of .mpeg 4. Standards change, prices of media get lower, too.

Since I got my D200, I\'ve been shooting to get the highest uncompressed .raw files plus .jpg Fine. If someone ever wants to pay big for any shot I took and to print a very large image. There is overkill verses being prepared. I\'d rather feel I\'m more prepared. Yes, it depends who or what output you\'re shooting for, but many times you can\'t easily do a reshoot.

Eight GB Ultra II, 266x speed CF cards are selling at the price of the 4GB CF cards I bought last August. On a 4GB, the counter says 188, I gotten 216 photos on it (1-.raw and 1-.jpg-fine) If it\'s an important shooting I\'ll even go to the highest bit output. Burn 2-DVDs, they are inexpensive for backups, at 16x it\'s not as time consuming.
03/11/2007 02:01:08 PM · #10
I shoot compressed RAW 99% of the time.
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