Do some people just submit any photo they take?

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/02/2003 12:52:43 AM · #1

I donâ��t want to sound harsh or critical in anyway. I always leave comments that are positive and informative never trying to bring the person down. But looking through some of the SPEED entries I am lost. WHAT DO YOU THINK SPEED MEANS?

Iâ��m ok with abstract things, lights are cool, even things that really donâ��t show speed but are the result of speed are fine by me. But there are quite a few photos, that for the life of me I cannot figure out, how it fits into this challenge. I look and look and scratch my head. I just donâ��t get it. lol

Sorry for ranting

ozdick

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

07/02/2003 01:00:15 AM · #2

I know what you mean the was a certain pic in there, that no matter how much I looked it, I couldn't see, nor could I understand how anyone could get any feeling for there being some movement in this paticular photo!!
:)

jbruno1397

Canon PowerShot S40

07/02/2003 01:00:43 AM · #3

I agree that a lot of the photos were of the same thing and a lot of people had the same ideabut holy mercy mother of god how many speedodmeters can you look at!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

07/02/2003 01:01:17 AM · #4

Originally posted by Diversq:

... there are quite a few photos, that for the life of me I cannot figure out, how it fits into this challenge. I look and look and scratch my head. I just donâ��t get it. lol

Sorry for ranting

As a dedicated "alternative interpreter" of challenge topics, I will be glad to help out. Please send me an email with a list of images (with links if you can) which you feel have no relationship to the challenge topic, and I'll try and offer at least one possible interpretation. If one of the questionable images is mine, at least I'll get one right!

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

07/02/2003 01:05:00 AM · #5

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Damn, i was planning on going to bed, but since I am always in pursuit of enlighten and whole heartedly believe in learning from others give me a smoke break and I will come back with some links for some interpretation.

But if you start saying stuff like the hair on this was moving well then your just pulling my chain ;-)

Message edited by author 2003-07-02 01:06:12.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

07/02/2003 01:05:10 AM · #6

Note: I have hidden two posts in this thread.

Please avoid discussion of specific challenge entries when voting, as this type of discussion has a tendency to cause a bias in voting on those photographs. It also may make the photographer feel compelled to respond to statements made about his or her photograph and lead to anonymity complaints.

General discussion is permissible but please do not discuss individial photographs either by title or by a description detailed enough to narrow it down to one photograph.

-Terry

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8D

07/02/2003 01:07:33 AM · #7

Opps sorry bout that. My bad..

Martus

Nikon Z6

07/02/2003 01:14:38 AM · #8

Originally posted by ozdick:

The challenge was speed, portraying the illusion or feeling of speed. Nobody said anything about there having to be movement. The two are not one and the same thing.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/02/2003 01:25:18 AM · #9

Originally posted by Diversq:

Originally posted by GeneralE:
As a dedicated "alternative interpreter" of challenge topics, I will be glad to help out. Please send me an email with a list of images (with links if you can) which you feel have no relationship to the challenge topic, and I'll try and offer at least one possible interpretation. If one of the questionable images is mine, at least I'll get one right!

Damn, i was planning on going to bed, but since I am always in pursuit of enlighten and whole heartedly believe in learning from others give me a smoke break and I will come back with some links for some interpretation.

But if you start saying stuff like the hair on this was moving well then your just pulling my chain ;-)

It's better to do this by email rather than post links--see Terry's post. I'll only be up another 45 minutes or so, no need to rush--this is not a "speed challenge" after all (sorry).

07/02/2003 01:29:28 AM · #10

you've got mail...

OneSweetSin

Nikon D3000

07/02/2003 01:36:53 AM · #11

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Diversq:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
As a dedicated "alternative interpreter" of challenge topics, I will be glad to help out. Please send me an email with a list of images (with links if you can) which you feel have no relationship to the challenge topic, and I'll try and offer at least one possible interpretation. If one of the questionable images is mine, at least I'll get one right!

Damn, i was planning on going to bed, but since I am always in pursuit of enlighten and whole heartedly believe in learning from others give me a smoke break and I will come back with some links for some interpretation.

But if you start saying stuff like the hair on this was moving well then your just pulling my chain ;-)

It's better to do this by email rather than post links--see Terry's post. I'll only be up another 45 minutes or so, no need to rush--this is not a "speed challenge" after all (sorry).

Paul would you like me to email you too and you can interupt one of the images for me too...lol there is one I just can't seem to get a grip on the connection to speed.

shadow

Sony DSC-W1

07/02/2003 01:39:51 AM · #12

Originally posted by Diversq:

some people just submit any photo they take

Is this supposed to be something new? Or is this a trick question?

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

07/02/2003 01:46:27 AM · #13

well i have only been in 4 challengs so far and I guess it just got to me. I dont really care if they want to submit a butterfly for a "Techonology Type challenge" (just an example)

Just means 1 photo lower then mine and im alright with that. I just get frustrated trying to get into the photo and figure what the photographer wanted me to see relating to the challenge if their intent was to just post anything.

ScottK

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

07/02/2003 02:03:54 AM · #14

I totally know what you mean.... and I'm hoping mine's not one of them! (Don't think it is, but there's always that worry.)

And, without getting specific, please follow up and at least let us know if Paul satisfies you're "need for speed". I haven't looked at all the entries yet, but there were a few that didn't seem very connected to me. But if he can convince you, I'll look closer...

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/02/2003 02:08:23 AM · #15

I've sent you both notes ... there was only one photo overlapping where I could copy the comment ... at least none was mine either!

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

07/02/2003 03:19:40 AM · #16

Controversy is a wonderful thing, don't you think? And so is lateral thinking! I took several photographs over the weekend that certainly conveyed speed in its most common form of displaying obvious movement, however, I decided against using any of them, instead I used another, no clues I'm afraid, which needs some interpretation. I wanted to see how people thought about the subject, and from the comments here I see that most think in literal terms. Interpretation walks alone, to see what is not obvious or to turn the mind through 180 degree spin is something that you either have got or haven't got!

I have done some voting and there are some good pics about, but they are very predictable.

You guys should be a little less inflexible in you interpretations, afterall it is the ability to think at odds that makes life interesting for the more laborious thinkers in this world.

Oh yes I am quite open to criticism but it is a two way street, you can criticise my photos at //www.magicmedia.co.uk

Message edited by author 2003-07-02 03:28:52.

EddyG

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

07/02/2003 06:48:34 AM · #17

The way I try to look at the challenge theme is like an assignment from an editor. Let's say this was your job, and your grumpy old boss (your editor), who hates when you ask a lot of questions, said to you "go get me a picture that conveys the illusion or feeling of speed" and walked out of your cubicle. What kind of picture would you take, knowing what your boss just said?

That is how I try to look for the photo that I'm going to submit for the challenge. Yes, my submission may be predictable because I didn't "think outside the box" with some alternative interpretation, but I'd hope that my editor would look at my pic and say "Yeah, that shows speed" instead of "Huh? What is this?"

I'm not saying you can't be creative. You have to be when taking photos. Just that sometimes the obvious/predictable interpretation may be appropriate... you don't have to take every challenge theme and look for the off-the-wall approach. But since you can submit anything you want, that is your choice if you do.

hortopth

Canon EOS-D60

07/02/2003 06:50:04 AM · #18

everyone's fired

07/02/2003 08:16:33 AM · #19

Wacky photos are good for everyone, at least they get the communication juices flowing, imagine how frustrating it would be if all the shots were perfect and right on the money. We would all be bored out of our heads.

hortopth

Canon EOS-D60

07/02/2003 08:22:12 AM · #20

i don't know-- I think that if all the shots were great, it would push people to new levels over time.
I think we learn more from awe-inspiring photos, then from rubbish

Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM

07/02/2003 08:33:35 AM · #21

hortopth wrote:
"i don't know-- I think that if all the shots were great, it would push people to new levels over time.
I think we learn more from awe-inspiring photos, then from rubbish"

Is rubbish your desciption of someones learning process? Are you a professional photographer or a teacher perhaps?

alexmfin

Nikon D70

07/02/2003 08:52:46 AM · #22

Originally posted by Chez:

A number of shots that are entered into every challenge are absolute rubbish, because they are of topic, don't demonstrate an original idea, execution is bad and in some case photo quality is poor as well.
I do not know what some people were thinking when they submitted some of the photos ... this is a photographic competetion - I don't submit unless I have something that can place in the top 100 (which is primarily why I missed the country life challenge).

Now flame me all you want.

zeranico

07/02/2003 08:52:53 AM · #23

too few of you dare to use your imagination on shooting ...
didnt see alot of creative thinking in those shots I have to say ....

but who am I to judge?

orussell

Canon EOS Rebel T6s

07/02/2003 09:14:15 AM · #24

*edit had to remove my comment as not to bias voting. Sorry.

Message edited by author 2003-07-02 09:16:19.