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03/05/2007 04:36:18 PM · #1
I am seriously looking at paying the monies for this product. I have done a search in the forums without too much available knowledge on this site for this product.

So I am going to ask straight out. Who has or hasn't used this product or has some knowledge of this product to help me determine if it is worth it.

Please....with all the thefts of copyright...I really need to get onto this now.
03/05/2007 04:43:42 PM · #2
Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

So far, I really like GeneralE's idea of the Digimarc. It's invisible (mostly) and trackable. This should mean that we will know where are images are going.


You could certainly digimarc all of your own images. Costs $499 a year if you want the tracking, which is what makes it actually useful. I suspect a site license would be about 10x that, if dpc wanted to do it for everyone. Ken Rockwell (!) doesn't have a very high opinion of it.


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03/05/2007 06:38:53 PM · #3
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

... Ken Rockwell (!) doesn't have a very high opinion of it.


Typical of Ken, spouting off on things he's really not paid much attention to. He has a couple good points...
- It does add grain equally to all areas of the image, and increases file sizes somewhat
- It can be removed, with degradation in quality
Beyond the above, he's not spent enough time to know what he's talking about, and yet he offers opinions.
I've tried embedding and then removing the Digimarc watermarks. Removing them is not at all easy, and I have never removed one successfully and wound up with an image that is even remotely usable. I've tried various noise-reduction strategies, tried adding more noise and then running noise reduction, tried cropping, tried cropping plus the various noise strategies...
suffice to say, the Digimarc watermarks are pretty tenacious, more so than I would have guessed! They do in fact result in visible added grain, even when added at default "durability" which is on the lower side. This, to me, is the biggest detractor of the system.
Ken's assumption that software such as Grain Surgery could be used to remove the watermark is no doubt correct, but only at extreme application levels. Further, his example of 40% file size increase, is, IMO, inflated. I applied a watermark at default durability to an image that was quite noise-free and had large smooth areas. The file size increased from 1.46MB to 1.66MB, or +13.7%; not a big deal.
03/05/2007 06:45:41 PM · #4
Hmmm...that is certainly interesting information...this is the type of input I am after. The good and bad of this product.
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