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02/27/2007 06:21:12 PM · #26
Yes, but the question remains...if we all get up at 3:30 a.m. to take stunning photos of the sunrise, will Mr. Davidson make us coffee that tastes as good as this looks?



Truly, I think men should have a practical as well as an artistic / photographic talent.

Wouldn't you all agree?

::wanders off innocently to polish halo::
02/27/2007 07:12:59 PM · #27
Well the best bet for a great sunrise is to go on a cruise through the Caribbean. Here's one at 6:15 am over Jamaica that I took last week. It really was worth waking up early to see.
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02/27/2007 07:24:48 PM · #28
Originally posted by Gordon:

Yes it can. Some people are very good at it. Mostly though you can predict it by looking at the sky several hours before hand and having a fair bit of experience with what it looks like before a good sunrise.

I realise that isn't very helpful - but it is the sort of thing where experience counts for a lot and you have to get that experience by well, experiencing sunrises.

Broken cloud is usually a good sign - with a good mix of high and low cloud often being good. A big cloud bank on the Eastern horizon is usually a bad sign. Severely clear is also a bad sign.

Start out by watching what conditions make for good sunrises. Pay attention to it. Log the data & the weather forecasts - start seeing if you can see any patterns. There are also books that discuss the various weather patterns and the effects that are useful. Pay attention to it and learn how to predict them yourself.

Not a quick fix but it seems to be the way that works.


What he said...


02/27/2007 07:29:20 PM · #29
Great sunsets are one of the two best predictors for great sunrises. The other is after nor'easters or other calamitous weather system. The calm after the storm, or in this case the sunrise after the storm is best. An additional benefit of following bad weather is active surf. Crashing waves always add interest. And as one of the other replys pointed out morning light is incredible so turn around and shoot what you see bathed in its light. Good luck.

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02/27/2007 07:42:52 PM · #30
Predicitng the potential for a great sunrise can be more difficult on the (Pacific Northwest) coast. Fog can come in and go out within minutes, making that window of opportunity very small... if there even is one. I agree that its best to just get out there frequently and have lots of patience and perseverance.

Here's my favorite of a sunrise over the harbor in Bandon by the Sea:

Sunrise Sensation
02/27/2007 08:07:02 PM · #31
how weird that this thread comes up now, over the last week I have been watching the evening sky (my better vantage point) and trying to learn what will make a good sunset, but some will help for sunrise too. I have noticed a few things that seems to help make really nice ones (most pointed out already):
-if it rains earlier in day the moisture in the air helps

-clouds are spread out and not low to the horizon..I like when there are thick ones that cause the rays to spread out but as this images shows a lot of cloud cover can work too...Okinawa


-still testing but when the sky seems a deep blue with large white puffy clouds during the day the sunsets seem to be very nice

-I also tend to use a very fast shutter or -EV value to underexpose the image which seems to help keep the orange and red colors...note this image, how high the sun is yet still nice oranges...Okinawa sunrise (but most thought sunset):


cold Lake Michigan morning:


find something to partialy block the suns intensity will sometimes give you cool effects


It takes practice and you won't be right all the time. I personally would rather watch a sunrise then sunset but I'm rare that way, I see it as a new beginning everyday.

Good luck

Message edited by author 2007-02-27 20:07:38.
02/27/2007 09:10:55 PM · #32
There's an old saying for predicting if it will rain the next day:

"Red sky at night: Shepheds delight. Red sky in the morning: Shepherds warning."

Doesn't always work, but most of the time, if there is little or no red in the sky in the afternoon/evening, then good chance it will be red in the morning, and possibly rain.
02/27/2007 09:18:32 PM · #33
one of my photographer mentors told me that a good photographer faces the setting/rising sun, the great photographer faces the opposite way.

I love the light it casts, and seldom actually shoot toward the sun. Especially if there's a lighthouse involved.

Good luck in your quest.

I'm in the process of turning myself into a morning person - it does hurt. :-)
02/27/2007 09:21:52 PM · #34
Thanks everyone for your tips, hints and photos. One day I will get up to photograph the sunrise. I don't do Tim Horton's coffee and my low B12 levels make me tired most of the time but especially so in the morning. Oh, and we're considered one of the foggiest places on earth so I have that to contend with as well. I would much prefer to see the sunset over the ocean every evening but since I live on the east coast that's a little difficult. :)
02/27/2007 09:23:33 PM · #35
My Dad has always said that morning is special because man hasn't had a chance to spoil the day yet.

But I'm really here to quote what the weather channel's Dr. Heidi Cullen says about sunsets:

"What makes each sunset so unique?

The short answer is a process called Rayleigh scattering, named after the British scientist Lord Rayleigh (1842-1919). The molecules of Earth’s atmosphere scatter sunlight preferentially. When the sun sets, light must travel further through the atmosphere before it reaches your eyes. That means more of the blue wavelengths are reflected and scattered leaving the longer red wavelengths behind for you to see.

But that’s only part of it. While the scattering of light through gas molecules in the atmosphere is the foundation, several other factors can help create sunsets, ranging from a delicate pink to deep shades of red. These include clouds, smog, and dust particles--all of which scatter sunlight just like the atmosphere. So, if you’re looking for ideal conditions to capture a sunset on film, pick a hazy evening, or one in which a thunderstorm or other cloud-producing weather system is moving off to the east, with clearing coming in from the western horizon and the setting sun illuminating the clouds. These are the makings of a beautiful sunset!"

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