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02/14/2007 01:29:05 PM · #76 |
This is vaguely off-topic, but I was intrigued when the challenges were posted because there's an implication that love and hate are opposites, and this actually isn't true. The opposite of "love" is not "hate"; it's "indifference"...
R.
Message edited by author 2007-02-14 13:29:25.
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02/14/2007 01:37:00 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by super-dave:
... so i won't be participating in the bad challenge and i certainly won't be looking/voting for the entries. |
Perhaps you should look and vote.
The value of a 'hate' challenge is that it might just point out in ourselves areas of improvement we need to work on.
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02/14/2007 01:44:10 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
The opposite of "love" is not "hate"; it's "indifference"...
R. |
Quite true.
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02/14/2007 01:48:59 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by super-dave:
... so i won't be participating in the bad challenge and i certainly won't be looking/voting for the entries. |
Perhaps you should look and vote.
The value of a 'hate' challenge is that it might just point out in ourselves areas of improvement we need to work on. |
WOW! An enlightened perspective! Thanks Steve.
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02/14/2007 01:52:43 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
I agree. The photographer that does a good job of depicting a "universal hate" will do quite well. |
The Borg. |
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02/14/2007 01:56:34 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
I agree. The photographer that does a good job of depicting a "universal hate" will do quite well. |
The Borg. |
Sounds Swedish ... :-)
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02/14/2007 02:47:49 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
The opposite of "love" is not "hate"; it's "indifference"...
R. |
Quite true. |
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From Antonym.com:
Antonyms of noun love
1 of 6 senses of love
Sense 1
love
Antonym of hate (Sense 1)
=>hate, hatred
Antonyms of verb love
1 of 4 senses of love
Sense 1
love
Antonym of hate (Sense 1)
=>hate, detest
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From Encarta:
love (n)
Synonyms: affection, adoration, friendship, tenderness, feeling, fondness, devotion, passion, ardor, amity
Antonym: hatred
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From Thesaurus.com:
Main Entry: love
Part of Speech: noun 1
Definition: adoration
Antonyms: hate
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From Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary and Thesaurus
Entry Word: love
Function: noun
Text: 1 a feeling of strong or constant regard for and dedication to someone
Antonyms: abomination, hate, hatred, loathing, rancor
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It would seem that there are those who would disagree with you ...
Greetmir
Message edited by author 2007-02-14 14:53:10.
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02/14/2007 02:55:11 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by Greetmir:
It would seem that there are those who would disagree with you ...
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I'm indifferent ;-)
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02/14/2007 02:56:38 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by Greetmir:
It would seem that there are those who would disagree with you ... |
Or Elie Wiesel. |
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02/14/2007 03:09:32 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by super-dave:
mk ... then how's about we use the same filter for guns, drugs (including alcohol and cigarettes), and violence? or perhaps a filter for each one specifically.
aren't these things adult content? :) |
And cars, those are only for adults, too, right? And jobs. |
That's quite a leap. This seems more a hit at the OPs opinion rather than a valid show of yours.
Cars and jobs aren't adult CONTENT. Cars bring children to and from where they need to go. They are around them each and every day. Seeing a photo of one isn't going to show them something offensive. Seeing someone shoot up heroin or all cut up and bloody will.
Come on.
I'm with the OP. Why is nudity worse than violence? What's the harm in having a filter for each? I'm not for censoring at all. Just if I had a child on here I'd want them to be protected from things other than nudity.
I think this thread has been blown way out of proportion.
Some find nudity offensive. Some find drugs and violence offensive. Why not offer options to block each and not just one?
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02/14/2007 03:10:06 PM · #86 |
Could someone clue me in on the "nipple incident"...
It appears I'm out of the loop on this one. |
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02/14/2007 03:18:55 PM · #87 |
Only nipple incident I can think of is that most everyone in this thread spent the first few months of their life sucking on one. At some point after that, they went nuts and started finding things to get offended about.
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02/14/2007 03:22:54 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Could someone clue me in on the "nipple incident"...
It appears I'm out of the loop on this one. |
I'm assuming they are talking about the underage model in the last Nude challenge, but I may be wrong.
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02/14/2007 09:59:03 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Originally posted by mk:
And cars, those are only for adults, too, right? And jobs. |
That's quite a leap. This seems more a hit at the OPs opinion rather than a valid show of yours.
Cars and jobs aren't adult CONTENT. Cars bring children to and from where they need to go. They are around them each and every day. Seeing a photo of one isn't going to show them something offensive. Seeing someone shoot up heroin or all cut up and bloody will.
Come on.
I'm with the OP. Why is nudity worse than violence? What's the harm in having a filter for each? I'm not for censoring at all. Just if I had a child on here I'd want them to be protected from things other than nudity.
I think this thread has been blown way out of proportion.
Some find nudity offensive. Some find drugs and violence offensive. Why not offer options to block each and not just one? |
agreed!!! cars and jobs aren't harmful or offensive or inappropriate for being viewed by children.
sorry MK, but that was just a silly retort.
just one word: consistency - either create filters for everything that's considered adult content (tv and movies do it) or don't use filters at all.
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02/14/2007 10:46:36 PM · #90 |
Originally posted by super-dave:
agreed!!! cars and jobs aren't harmful or offensive or inappropriate for being viewed by children.
sorry MK, but that was just a silly retort.
just one word: consistency - either create filters for everything that's considered adult content (tv and movies do it) or don't use filters at all. |
Sure they are. Cars kill people all the time. Jobs kill people sometimes and mine makes me want to kill myself others. But yes, it was intended to be silly. I think that the idea that viewing cigarettes and alcohol is harmful or inappropriate is kind of silly, too. Whenever I go out into the world, I see people smoking and drinking. Luckily, I rarely see naked people as I'm out and about. Likewise, my co-workers, many of whom smoke at work, generally do not come to the office naked. If I got caught looking at a package of cigarettes while at work, I doubt anything would happen. If I got caught looking at nudies, I'd probably be fired. I'm not saying I personally have any issue with nudes. I don't feel that my retinas are singed upon viewing one and I don't have the filter turned on at home. But not seeing nudes when I'm not expecting to see them is one of the privileges afforded to us crazy Western folk.
That all being said, my initial post, if you reread it, had nothing to do with my opinion on the matter so I'm not sure why you directed your question towards me. I'm pretty neutral on the whole thing - I'm sure if enough people felt a violence and illegal drug use filter was necessary, one could be enacted. |
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02/14/2007 10:48:22 PM · #91 |
I suspect that the reason we have limits on nudity but not other potentially offensive material is that the rules must correspond to the local laws in the part of the US where it's hosted.
Yes, we have an international community. That fact, and the variety of cultural norms represented on DPC, mean nothing legally.
In the US, there are very strict laws about nudity and sexual imagery. There aren't such laws about violent or drug-related imagery that I'm aware of. Yell about how you think it's silly all you want, but surely you don't want Drew or Langdon paying the price of crossing those legal lines?
Once you get beyond legal requirements, you're off in a swamp of conflicting moralities, and I don't blame them for not diving in.
That said, if they so wish, I would support a violence filter. I would leave it off, but it seems like a good option.
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02/14/2007 11:57:30 PM · #92 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Only nipple incident I can think of is that most everyone in this thread spent the first few months of their life sucking on one. At some point after that, they went nuts and started finding things to get offended about. |
Must have been withdrawal symptoms that caused this hysteria.... :)
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02/15/2007 01:16:00 AM · #93 |
This is just my opinion from experiences, everything should be viewed on a case-by-case basis, per the individual.
If anyone has kids, I think the best way to have them learn and respect your views on things like nudity and violence, is not by restricting, banishing, and hiding them from reality. This may or may not apply depending on their intelligence and maturity. Yet who are we to establish those limits. Many times kids are more mature and intelligent then we think.
The best way, is to spend Time to Discuss views, and be a Guidance to them, not a Dictator. Talk to them often, Listen to them even more, then show them the really worthwhile pursuits in life. The more you restrict the more they rebel, just as you did when you were young at life.
Discipline, and discernment/good judgment, are the values to teach, through respect not restriction and censorship.
Just as an analogy to cigarettes, Filters or non-filters, you smoke either one, it can be harmful, but it is your right to smoke legally if you're at the age limit of your locale.
The extremes of most anything can be harmful - John E. |
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02/15/2007 01:33:35 AM · #94 |
Originally posted by justamistere:
entire post |
Respect. |
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02/15/2007 01:53:44 AM · #95 |
*Art considers pulling his entry of a bloody nipple with a gun pointed at it* filtered for adult content intended for an immature audience
...but then it seems a sure winner.
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02/15/2007 01:55:48 AM · #96 |
Originally posted by justamistere:
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I 2nd that! |
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02/15/2007 02:00:10 AM · #97 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by super-dave:
... some entries are just going to be gratuitous ... or people will post for the shock value. ... |
Perhaps you should vote because if you don't not all voices will be heard and the "shock value" entries won't hear you.
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No one will listen if you haven't made a sound ~Babydaddy - Scissor Sisters ~
I'm off shopping for my props today! Wish me luck, I have a great idea. Now I hope it's original :-P
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02/19/2007 12:07:42 PM · #98 |
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02/20/2007 03:28:45 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
Allright...I'm in :-) |
Me, too. And I managed to do it in a non-violent way. I'm expecting some very ugly, violent images.
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02/20/2007 10:29:23 PM · #100 |
I'm in as well. This was a very difficult challenge for me. You might even call it 'challenging'. The technical details are minimal. The basic editing rules made no difference to me. The hard part was finding a subject. I really have a hard time with the idea of hating anyone or anything. My life is good, after all.
I have a feeling that this challenge is going to be an emotionally charged one, though. Good luck to all that entered. (I expect to be about halfway down the list when the dust settles.) |
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