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02/03/2007 11:30:01 AM · #1 |
| Her speech she made on C-span makes me want to vote for her.I just wanted to get a real feel for the other voters out there. |
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02/03/2007 11:40:40 AM · #2 |
If ya wanna vote, please don't forget that the election will be in 2008 :)
Well, actually, since I don't want her to be president, it would be best if you wait till 2009.
Sorry, sorry, had to pick on ya.
Smiles :) |
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02/03/2007 11:42:09 AM · #3 |
| I just wanted to stir the pot just a little :0) |
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02/03/2007 11:49:19 AM · #4 |
she's too conservative for me.
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02/03/2007 12:21:24 PM · #5 |
I would like to see a Democrat elected to the White House in 2008 (or even a truly moderate republican) and I personally don't mind Hillary, but I don't know if she is the best candidate the dems can put forward.
In a poll I saw 45% of the people responding said they would not vote for her no matter what. That seems like a slim margin to work with to win.
At the moment I'm on the Obama bandwagon. The man seems like a true unifier versus the current establishment which was billed as such.
I'd also be interested in seeing what Giuliani's platform will be like. He seems moderate enough for me. The bottom line is there is no candidate that represents the hodge podge of positions I hold. Progressive taxation, fiscal responsibility, strong environmental laws, strong gun control, moderately against abortion rights, moderately for "family values" (or whatever that means).
Some of the candidates I generally like are moderate republicans who get creamed when they hit the primaries in South Carolina and then fade from the race... |
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02/03/2007 01:22:19 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Progressive taxation, fiscal responsibility, strong environmental laws, strong gun control, moderately against abortion rights, moderately for "family values" (or whatever that means).
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Of course the devil is in the details, but your generic summary of your positions aligns with a generic summary of most libertarian positions on those issues. |
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02/03/2007 01:26:24 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
In a poll I saw 45% of the people responding said they would not vote for her no matter what. That seems like a slim margin to work with to win. |
Consider me in the 45%. Absolutely no Hillary.
Everyone else is open for consideration - at the moment.
I find it disengenious of the liberals to mask their feelings on gun control, especially after the stomping they took in '94.
This is what I find confusing on the part of both liberals and conservatives.
Liberals are typically against gun ownership due to the "death" issue. Yet they typically support abortion. They are typically against capital punishment (the death penalty), yet they are typically for abortion.
Conservatives are typically for gun ownership (self defense) and capital punishment (for heineous crimes), yet against abortion.
I can almost see the conservatives view that 2 of the instances involve criminals (self defense and capital punishment) while the last involves "innocent" life. The liberals view, just confounds me. Let the criminals live, but kill the babies.
Something is wrong with that platform.
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Message edited by author 2007-02-03 13:27:49.
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02/03/2007 01:29:35 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
In a poll I saw 45% of the people responding said they would not vote for her no matter what. That seems like a slim margin to work with to win. |
Consider me in the 45%. Absolutely no Hillary.
Everyone else is open for consideration - at the moment.
I find it disengenious of the liberals to mask their feelings on gun control, especially after the stomping they took in '94.
This is what I find confusing on the part of both liberals and conservatives.
Liberals are typically against gun ownership due to the "death" issue. Yet they typically support abortion. They are typically against capital punishment (the death penalty), yet they are typically for abortion.
Conservatives are typically for gun ownership (self defense) and capital punishment (for heineous crimes), yet against abortion.
I can almost see the conservatives view that 2 of the instances involve criminals (self defense and capital punishment) while the last involves "innocent" life. The liberals view, just confounds me. Let the criminals live, but kill the babies.
Something is wrong with that platform.
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How brave you are to stand up and announce your viewpoint in a sea of sharks. I'm with you. |
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02/03/2007 01:34:40 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by CalliopeKel:
How brave you are to stand up and announce your viewpoint in a sea of sharks. I'm with you. |
If you're hangin' with me, I hope you can swim.
;-}
Thanks for the support.
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02/03/2007 01:43:39 PM · #10 |
| heck, i'd be pretty happy with a candidate that was thinking of/with something besides his pocketbook. . . . |
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02/03/2007 01:45:34 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by karmat:
heck, i'd be pretty happy with a candidate that was thinking of/with something besides his pocketbook. . . . |
Hallelujah sister preach on! |
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02/03/2007 02:06:30 PM · #12 |
i think the biggest hurdle to hillary right now is the fact that the right wingers and swift boaters and fox newsers and rush limbaughs already have 15 years of her words and actions to use against her.
how long until we see ads talking about her not wanting "to sit at home and bake cookies?" the controversy over that statement still isn't over, and she said it in...what? 1992?
*sigh* it's going to be a long long long 21 months, isn't it? |
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02/03/2007 02:22:42 PM · #13 |
Canadian point of view...Anyone BUT Hillary...Can't stand her!!!! Ultra ambitious conniving person who'll stomp on the head of anyone and everyone to get where she wants to be...but then I've just described the profile of a Politician...LOL
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02/03/2007 03:09:10 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
i think the biggest hurdle to hillary right now is the fact that the right wingers and swift boaters and fox newsers and rush limbaughs already have 15 years of her words and actions to use against her.
how long until we see ads talking about her not wanting "to sit at home and bake cookies?" the controversy over that statement still isn't over, and she said it in...what? 1992?
*sigh* it's going to be a long long long 21 months, isn't it? |
She'll say many more things between now and '08 that will infuriate many in the red states. Even if people got past the fact that she's a woman she just isn't likable not even in the slightest. The only way I see her winning is if she runs against Rice.
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02/03/2007 03:44:44 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by yanko:
The only way I see her winning is if she runs against Rice. |
rice was on tv last night and it finally clicked who she reminds me of. james brown. she's got dave letterman's teeth and james brown's hair.
scary. |
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02/03/2007 05:08:56 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Progressive taxation, fiscal responsibility, strong environmental laws, strong gun control, moderately against abortion rights, moderately for "family values" (or whatever that means).
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Of course the devil is in the details, but your generic summary of your positions aligns with a generic summary of most libertarian positions on those issues. |
Really? I would think libertarians were pretty well against gun control, against environmental restriction, against abortion restriction and against taxation.
The standard libertarian position to me would be "the less regulation, the better". |
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02/03/2007 05:34:19 PM · #17 |
Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
She'll say anything |
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02/03/2007 05:59:32 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
The standard libertarian position to me would be "the less regulation, the better". |
Kind of sums it up for me. Wish a winable candidate represented "against gun control, against environmental restriction, against abortion restriction and against taxation."
Of course I might be the only one voting for them. Wait - thats how "Bill" got elected the first time - I voted Libertarian...
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02/03/2007 09:05:17 PM · #19 |
The United States has not progressed enough to accept a woman president. In my opinion if the democrats nominate her they are naive and stupid.
I would like to see Al Gore run. Especially if he wins the Nobel Prize. And especially when I saw what his next book is about; The Assault on Reason
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02/03/2007 09:26:40 PM · #20 |
| I probably won't be voting... but I don't think I would vote for her. |
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02/04/2007 10:38:55 PM · #21 |
| I definitally for Hilary in "2009", but any other time Not My Vote. |
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02/04/2007 10:44:24 PM · #22 |
I'd vote for a blind, deaf, mute, poor, black, hermaphrodite before I'd vote for her.
No, anyway all joking aside...I don't see her winning.
Do we even get to vote who is our president anymore? I mean sure, they make us think that we get to vote...but they pick the little group that we 'select' our next president from.
edit...
Hypothetical question...
3 candidates...
1 woman
1 black
1 white man
who wins?
Message edited by author 2007-02-04 22:45:38.
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02/04/2007 11:12:21 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Hypothetical question...
3 candidates...
1 woman
1 black
1 white man
who wins? |
Big oil? |
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02/04/2007 11:14:39 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
Originally posted by yanko:
The only way I see her winning is if she runs against Rice. |
rice was on tv last night and it finally clicked who she reminds me of. james brown. she's got dave letterman's teeth and james brown's hair.
scary. |
My sister just retired last year from 30 years in administration at Stanford University. For a number of years she worked closely with Condoleeza Rice. The stories she tells are not flattering...
R.
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02/05/2007 11:02:35 AM · #25 |
| I love all the feedback that I received for my question. But again, it was refreshing to hear a speech where someone didn't studder. But if not Hillary-I wonder who would be best qualified to clean up the mess that G.W. has left. |
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