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01/26/2007 03:44:05 AM · #1
So i'm starting to get serious about photography now, but still need some help. Here's a question I have.

I've seen some very cool frames and borders on some pictures on this site. That said, I tried to do something like that with my best of 2006 entry.


After receieving one comment saying how ridiculous the border was, I couldn't help but agree(nor could the dozen commenters to follow).

I had a great image, and ruined it with a nasty border.

What are some tips/tricks you use to choose and create an effective border for your picture?

Thanks for the help.
01/26/2007 03:45:11 AM · #2
Hm, black or white. No color, unless it's a very very small border.

But, framed is the best way to go ;)
01/26/2007 03:50:39 AM · #3
You can't go wrong with a neutral color border as biteme mentioned. Now in regards to frame or no frame, it depends on the photo, IMO. For example, photos that have a lot of negative space I usually go with no border because I feel including one adversely effects that negative space.

Message edited by author 2007-01-26 03:50:56.
01/26/2007 03:51:12 AM · #4
Originally posted by yanko:

You can't go wrong with a neutral color border as biteme mentioned. Now in regards to frame or no frame, it depends on the photo, IMO. For example, photos that have a lot of negative space I usually go with no border because I feel including one adversely effects that negative space.


ooh I meant a REAL frame. you know, to hang on a wall!
01/26/2007 04:29:14 AM · #5
it depends wheter my photo is mostly blak or mostly white. But I always use the same border. Either a small black border followed by a thicker white or the other way 'round. Allways 40 pixels wide, I have it as an action in PS.

for example:

white border, a black border would distract way too much.


black border, same reason...


I never use coloured borders as they distract. A border is merely to frame the picture.
01/26/2007 05:58:58 AM · #6
Puckzzz
I like yours
and that are the borders I usualy use

What do you use when you print and frame the photos? Do you add something additional?

My problemm is that I have to present some of my work next week in a printed and framed in 30/40cm format

When I postprocess I does't realy care of the proportions when croping. But how to solve this with prints?
I can't present a square picture per example with a 30*40cm border.
Have you had a similar issue?
01/26/2007 06:43:59 AM · #7
I'd try to centre the picture in the length, so in portrait. And then leave about 3cm at the sides of the width. You could add one extra line at the outsides of your border something like 2 pixels. just to make it stand out and look like a passepartout.

I don't know if passepartout is the right word in english, but it's the only word I know to describe it. :-)
01/26/2007 07:10:16 AM · #8
Thank you puckzzz

I doesn't know if passe-partout is the write word but it's the only one I know as well :-)

And do you use a passe-partout from a different material than the print - I mean physical one from cartboard? Or you just simulate it with a printed border?
01/26/2007 07:18:32 AM · #9
depends what it's for.

if it is to hang on your wall, I'd use a proper passepartout. if it is for a portfolio to show potential clients I'd simulate it. the cardboard is very thick and you'll be dragging around a very heavy folder :-)
01/26/2007 07:52:42 AM · #10
Thanks :-)
01/26/2007 08:08:20 AM · #11
I think you have to be really careful when deciding to add a border. I don't think there are many cases where voters will add points because you have one, but plenty of cases where they will deduct. I myself have deducted points for a really bad, distracting border. Some say voters should ignore a distracting border and concentrate on the picture itself - but I personally look at the total package when I vote. If the first thing I notice when I open a picture is the border, then it's a distraction IMO.
01/26/2007 08:46:57 AM · #12
I'd recommend that if you add a border that you create it in a separate layer that can easily be turned off or don't save a border in your post processed master file at all.

For DPChallenge and poster output borders are OK but they can limit your matting possibilities and become an aligment nightmare when making a framed print. Be careful. Borders can easily wind up being more of a distraction in your picture than anything else.
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