Gun owners / collectors / experts -- I need help

01/23/2007 01:31:56 AM · #27

They made it with wood on top to and the bi-pod is an attachment.

01/23/2007 01:32:06 AM · #28

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by idnic:

Leroy - you just made me spit beer on my keyboard, I hope you're happy! lol

Yup, mission complete, off to bed :-)

LOL g'nite, hon! :)

01/23/2007 01:32:57 AM · #29

With wood

01/23/2007 01:33:15 AM · #30

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

They made it with wood on top to and the bi-pod is an attachment.

With wood around the barrel, maybe... but the barrel on that one narrows a LOT and the one I saw didn't.

01/23/2007 01:34:07 AM · #31

sites on front were beefier too

01/23/2007 01:36:56 AM · #32

Well post an image tomorrow when you can and I will confirm. If it is a civilian model it is technically a M1A the M14 is full auto and would require a class 3 license or a tax stamp to possess. The caliber is .308 Winchester or 7.62x51mm Nato. M1A's go for about $1500and up!

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 01:38:15.

01/23/2007 01:38:45 AM · #33

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Did it look like this

Springfield 03-A3

Yes, but without that carved indent in the middle.

The U.S. Model 1903 Springfield Rifle was manufactured 1903 to 1945 with several variations. From what I can find there were two different stocks used on these guns for which you can still get replacements. One had the so-called indent and one without. Considering it was made and used for 42 years by the US military, I would say this model would be a likely candidate.

01/23/2007 01:41:13 AM · #34

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

That sounds great. He got it in a "trade" like you guys tend to do and has known nothing about it for 5 years. Promised to give me 25% if I can find its value and heritage. I'll grab it tomorrow and do some shots in the studio. That should help. It's very close to the M1A you linked so I'm thinking that's a good place to start.

01/23/2007 01:42:48 AM · #35

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

OMG THAT looks very much like it!!! What does the magazine look like?

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 01:42:59.

01/23/2007 01:43:42 AM · #36

The magazine is internal.

01/23/2007 01:45:20 AM · #37

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

The magazine is internal.

ugh, then not it.... but LOOKS right. :/

01/23/2007 01:58:14 AM · #38

Originally posted by idnic:

[quote=thegrandwazoo] M1 Garand

The more I look at this one (keep in mind I'm working from memory) I don't recall such a smooth line from the front edge of the trigger guard to the end, seems it was a curve there... also I don't recall the upper strap anchor having a band, it attached underneath, rather than around, the wood on top was smooth there. BUT, shape and other details seem right with this one.

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 01:59:33.

01/23/2007 02:00:03 AM · #39

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

The magazine is internal.

No it isn't

Here are 2 Springfield M1903 models with magazines. One is a sniper rifle and the other was for general infantry use.

01/23/2007 02:00:37 AM · #40

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by idnic:
[quote=thegrandwazoo] M1 Garand

The more I look at this one (keep in mind I'm working from memory) I don't recall such a smooth line from the front edge of the trigger guard to the end, seems it was a curver there... also I don't recall the upper strap anchor having a band, seems it attached underneath, rather than around, the wood on top was smooth there. BUT, shape and other details seem right with this one.

As with the 03 the mag is internal in the Garand. So if you saw an external magazine then M1A is looking like it could be it.

01/23/2007 02:01:17 AM · #41

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
The magazine is internal.

No it isn't Here are 2 Springfield M1903 models with magazines. One is a sniper rifle and the other was for general infantry use.

Cool I continue to learn.

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 02:01:26.

01/23/2007 02:04:00 AM · #42

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Here are 2 Springfield M1903 models with magazines. One is a sniper rifle and the other was for general infantry use.

Maybe..magazine looks right, but again with the segmented wood on the front where the strap anchor is, the one I saw was solid.

Will be funny tomorrow when I shoot a pic and test how good my memory is! lol

01/23/2007 02:05:31 AM · #43

You have me curious now to.

01/23/2007 02:05:34 AM · #44

What year did they start the conversion to a 8 round magazine and is it detachable or are stripper clips still used?

01/23/2007 02:08:46 AM · #45

Originally posted by idnic:

[quote=NstiG8tr]

What is the 'dot', 'bullseye', 'thingy' on the stock of these? The one I saw didn't have anything like that.. it was smooth but for the couple of brass nailheads on each side (and the paint marks I mentioned earlier).

01/23/2007 02:18:58 AM · #46

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

What year did they start the conversion to a 8 round magazine and is it detachable or are stripper clips still used?

They had a customized version they called an Air Service version that had a 25 round extension magazine and a chopped stock that they carried in observation balloons.

01/23/2007 02:23:59 AM · #47

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by idnic:
[quote=NstiG8tr]

What is the 'dot', 'bullseye', 'thingy' on the stock of these? The one I saw didn't have anything like that.. it was smooth but for the couple of brass nailheads on each side (and the paint marks I mentioned earlier).

Other manufacturers made these guns as well. The design could vary from maker to maker. Remington made a version of this rifle and so did Smith-Corona. I don't know what the little tags are. Maybe these were some type of collectors edition rifles or something.

chimericvisions

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II

01/23/2007 02:25:04 AM · #48

Maybe a Nagant?

Photo

01/23/2007 02:26:22 AM · #49

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
What year did they start the conversion to a 8 round magazine and is it detachable or are stripper clips still used?

They had a customized version they called an Air Service version that had a 25 round extension magazine and a chopped stock that they carried in observation balloons.

That's cool. Makes sense that they would have specialized conversions for special needs.

SDW