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01/10/2007 07:40:30 PM · #26 |
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01/10/2007 07:42:50 PM · #27 |
Perhaps we could have a monthly challenge with a decidedly NON-american topic of some sort. I'm sure there are plenty of people willing and able to provide good suggestions.
Could be fun watching everyone scramble trying to approximate a windmill or pyramids, Eiffel Towers, Big Ben, exotic festivals (or food or fauna or flora) etc etc etc. |
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01/10/2007 07:44:15 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by dassilem:
I think it would be fun....it will give Thing 1 and Thing 2 a chance to stretch their legs..... |
That's what I used to call my oldest children ... which meant my son had to be Thing 3 when he came along (LOL). Good thing he has a sense of humor.
The kids loved Dr. Suess, and I can still recite most of "One Fish, Two Fish" from memory after all these years. Could definitely be a fun challenge. |
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01/10/2007 07:48:47 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
But more people are familiar with Dr. Suess and his books than are familiar with Mongolia. |
I'm curious... what makes you think you know that?
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01/10/2007 08:04:31 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by alanfreed:
Originally posted by pineapple:
Outer Mongolia and a fair few other countries do not have these books. Imagine translating Seuss.... so the challenge would be a mere US provincial backwater thing. |
Any outer Mongolians here? No? Well, good then. |
I grew up in outer Mongolia, but moved to B*****K, Egypt
as a teenager. We had the good doctor at both localities.
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01/10/2007 08:14:51 PM · #31 |
Awesome idea.
I think people are just being petty saying it is not known by enough to be a fair challenge. As stated, if you don't know about it look it up. There are more then enough challenges to choose from for everyone to participate in and always at least one that someone has to research for before entering.
It's the same concept with shooting for Christmas or even urban landscapes...if you don't have access to that or don't believe in it, then don't shoot it.
You have any idea how many challenges I have to sit out on cause I'm stuck on a little military base on Okinawa? We don't have access to everything so sometimes shooting a challenge is just not an option. Sure I can try to get off base and try to shoot stuff around the island but that requires either someone else driving you all over or lots of Yen for taxis. And try to shoot on base and you can get the military police hounding you. And don't even get me started on the fact that we only have about 3 women (and I use that term loosley) stationed on this base (yes 3 is a pretty close number) so unless I want to ask a guy to pose nude for me and have my face beat in...those are out too.
[not very "PC" comment] GET OVER IT AND STOP YOUR WINNING PEOPLE. this is supposed to be for fun and a learning experience. [/not very "PC" comment]
Message edited by author 2007-01-10 20:18:59. |
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01/10/2007 10:06:09 PM · #32 |
Just a question, pineapple... did you raise the same objections with "Pink Floyd" or with the current Rick Dees top 50 challenge?
I DO see your point, because I muttered about the 4th of July fireworks one. I suspect it's just that, because of your profession, you're a little more aware of the ...regionality?... of this suggestion :)
I agree that we need to remember that we're an international site and make sure that there's challenges available to everyone, but not every single challenge can work that way, much as we'd like it to.
Having said that.... Bring on Yertle the Turtle! :D |
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01/11/2007 03:47:14 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by biteme:
Let's do a Dutch oriented challenge next time. that would be fun. full with windmills, tulips, cheese and clogs.
that's not gonna happen either, I know.
so, why Dr Suess?
(sorry for being a pain in the ass) |
Because we don't have access to Suess as if it's tangible like windmills! It's not like those of us in America have Grinches laying around to shoot. It's a book. Meaning you can look it up on google, as has been said, see the style, and do whatever you'd like as an interpretation.
Or not. And don't do it.
If you really wanted a Dutch theme I would have no objections however I think Suess can have a wider reach than choosing one countries heritage to shoot. |
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01/11/2007 04:14:01 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
Perhaps we could have a monthly challenge with a decidedly NON-american topic of some sort. I'm sure there are plenty of people willing and able to provide good suggestions.
Could be fun watching everyone scramble trying to approximate a windmill or pyramids, Eiffel Towers, Big Ben, exotic festivals (or food or fauna or flora) etc etc etc. |
These all would be welcome suggestions ... write up some challenge titles and descriptions and we'll add them to the pool. The overwhelming number of topics originate with member suggestions.
It is true that both the majority of the membership (I think) and the topics tend to be USA-oriented (if they have any country bias at all) as well. But the diversity of participation is one of the things which makes this site unique, and you'll find we make an effort to include non-North American topics too. I'd try to make it something possible for everyone to do, even if it presents a "challenge" : ) |
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01/11/2007 06:28:24 PM · #35 |
Green Eggs and Spam: anyone ?
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01/11/2007 06:30:12 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Originally posted by biteme:
Let's do a Dutch oriented challenge next time. that would be fun. full with windmills, tulips, cheese and clogs.
that's not gonna happen either, I know.
so, why Dr Suess?
(sorry for being a pain in the ass) |
Because we don't have access to Suess as if it's tangible like windmills! It's not like those of us in America have Grinches laying around to shoot. It's a book. Meaning you can look it up on google, as has been said, see the style, and do whatever you'd like as an interpretation.
Or not. And don't do it.
If you really wanted a Dutch theme I would have no objections however I think Suess can have a wider reach than choosing one countries heritage to shoot. |
sorry. I was a bit grumpy the other day. |
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01/11/2007 07:02:15 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by biteme:
Let's do a Dutch oriented challenge next time. that would be fun. full with windmills, tulips, cheese and clogs.
that's not gonna happen either, I know.
so, why Dr Suess?
(sorry for being a pain in the ass) |
Honestly I think that might be a good idea. Why not have a Dutch or Japanese or Italian or Mongolian themed challenges? I view the challenges as being an opportunity to be creative. It is a CHALLENGE after all. What would be the point if you could just step into your backyard and shoot for everything that came up. In my 2+ years on DPC I've seen people practically drool over Challenge Suggestions and when they actually happen maybe 1/3 of the shots fit the challenge and the rest are way off base or shoe horned in with a title.
I am sure when the Pink Floyd challenge was announced there were people in parts of the world (even the US and England for that matter) that said Pink What?
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01/11/2007 07:07:48 PM · #38 |
Pink what? oh ... ;-)
Anyway, yes, we should have "challenging" challenges... so bring on those Mongolian suggestions :-)
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01/11/2007 07:15:46 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Pink what? oh ... ;-)
Anyway, yes, we should have "challenging" challenges... so bring on those Mongolian suggestions :-) |
When I wrote that I thought- Hmmm, bet there would be lots of food pictures...
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01/11/2007 08:28:52 PM · #40 |
Alright I have had some time on the fence to listen and watch what people have said. I can see both sides. Yes, some suggestions have been centric to one part of the world. BUT as stated before me, one can simply Google it and then let their creative muse take over to meet a challenge. The web can be utilized as something that can bring everyone together.
Also I can and WILL make the this point: far TOO MUCH time & energy is spend issueing complaints (even valid ones) that sometimes creativity and offering up positive suggestions are forgotten to be offered up as well.
Now discussion has evolved that we should have a culteral centric challenge. Wonderful idea! I would love to see representation of other cultures even if I could not participate in the challenge Just quickly scanning the threads Wildcard recently made a suggestion that was widely ignored Dance Now the idea has merits. Back in 2005 I suggested we have a culteral dance challenge Spirit of the Dance. That too fell largely on deaf ears.
So by all means put suggestions in that have a culteral bend to them - and if it can be something that is universal like dances, food, festivals, landmarks or even if they are centric! It will then offer up a creative 'challenge' to see what people here can accomplish.
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01/11/2007 08:33:33 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by alanfreed:
Originally posted by pineapple:
I'm surprised a member of Site Council is so geographically challenged. But there you go. You get my point anyway. |
My thinly-veiled point is that if they have access to the Internet, they can get to Google... and they can probably figure out what they're supposed to do. Or, if the challenge doesn't interest them, they can ignore it, or choose the other one if it's an Open challenge :) |
In that case, you better spell "Dr. Seuss" correctly!
edited to add: (not you, Alan Freed, just you, DPC) |
Whoops! *blushes and grins* Well as I've told my husband time and time again: "I am English Major not a Spelling Major, dammit!" (use McCoy's tone of voice when delivering that line - Star Trek...) |
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01/11/2007 08:36:22 PM · #42 |
| 48 books published in 20 different languages. Suck it up. |
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01/11/2007 08:57:53 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by hsolakidis:
Oh, and Art Roflmao, comments like that are just childish. |
You could say that after the greater majority of Art's posts! I seriously LOL'd on that one.
Wish I could get away with what he does. :-) |
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01/11/2007 10:33:24 PM · #44 |
You guys do realize the most debated challenges are usually picked first ;-)
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01/11/2007 10:57:28 PM · #45 |
not only are his books wonderful, splendiferous things, but if you can see his artwork, as opposed to his illustration work, it's also great.
take a little while and appreciate the wonder that is the poetry of seuss. it seems so easy, but if you truly read and listen to it, you realise that it's perfect, and must have taken a very very long time to get so right, so effortless, so romping. children's writing is seldom so good. his early readers are perfect for small kids, and his older children's books teach without preaching.
did you know that green eggs and ham as 50 different words in total, and was written for a bet?
can you tell i like seuss? (and i grew up in england)
a small section:
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"You do not like green eggs and ham?
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.
I do not like green eggs and ham.
I could not, would not, on a boat.
I will not, will not, with a goat.
I will not eat them in the rain.
I will not eat them on a train.
Not in the dark! Not in a tree!
Not in a car! You let me be!
I do not like them in a box.
I do not like them with a fox.
I will not eat them in a house.
I do not like them with a mouse.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them ANYWHERE!
I do not like green eggs and ham!
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.
You do not like them.
So you say.
Try them! Try them!
And you may.
Try them and you may, I say.
Sam!
If you will let me be, I will try them.
You will see.
Say!
I like green eggs and ham!
I do! I like them, Sam-I-am!
And I would eat them in a boat.
And I would eat them with a goat...
I do so like
green eggs and ham!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Sam-I-am!"
Message edited by author 2007-01-11 23:02:54.
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01/11/2007 11:03:49 PM · #46 |
uh, so, yes, can we have a seuss challenge?
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01/11/2007 11:27:14 PM · #47 |
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01/11/2007 11:33:00 PM · #48 |
be patient all....I have a feeling when expert comes around again, it might be something like this...it is a perfect "expert" challenge...
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01/11/2007 11:58:11 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by hsolakidis:
I agree with pineapple. 4th of July I can live with, it's only once a year. I understand that it would be nice for some to have such challenges, but isn't it more fun if (mostly) everybody is able to participate?
Dr Suess? Never heard of the guy....
Oh, and Art Roflmao, comments like that are just childish.
Harry |
Which comment? "We'll miss ya"? Well, someone probably would. It was a bit sarcastic, but I didn't feel like getting into this argument about how a challenge shouldn't be this way or that way so as not to exclude anyone. But now that I have a little time... All challenges potentially exclude lots of people who are not familiar with the topic: Pink Floyd, Ansel Adams, Gary Larsen, James Bond, Waldo, stdavidson, etc. Those are just the person related challenge topics we have had in the past - and not all of them are American personalities and most of them are lesser known than Dr. Seuess.
Then there are the other types of challenges where many non-American members may be at a disadvantage with the voters: Cliche, Visual Puns, Movies, Literalisms, and more. Yet we still had those challenges. What about excluding people who are technically challenged and don't know what "Bokeh" is or how to achieve it? What about a "Country Life" challenge for people who live in the city?? Or vice-versa? The point is that many challenges potentially exclude some members who don't understand the topic and don't want to research it. None of it has to do with being America-centric - you just choose to pick the challenges that you claim are, so you can whine specifically about that.
I don't recall reading anything in the agreement that says I am entitled to have all challenges tailored to my knowledge, experience, equipment, perception, etc. There are always plenty of challenges running concurrently so if you see a topic you don't understand, either research it or enter a different one or don't enter one - whatever.
As for the comment I made - if someone essentially threatens to leave because they feel excluded from a challenge for lack of familiarity with the topic, THAT is childish, IMO.
I say YES to Dr. Seuss. Now I'm off to post some more challenge suggestions: Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Edison, Baseball, Stars & Stripes, and maybe a few more just to stir the pot. |
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01/12/2007 12:03:09 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
, and maybe a few more just to stir the pot. |
That would be the great Melting Pot that is America, I guess. ;-P |
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