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06/09/2003 12:07:15 PM · #1
I am getting low scores becasue i had a photo that implied liquid. I have comments saying how the person knows there is liquid but since they can't see it visually they are voting it low. The topic doesnt state it cant be implied liquid.

I beleive everyone should vote how they want but you should leave some openess in voting. Thoough, it does help to know how people vote. Now that i know that a lot of people here have closed minds i will shoot my photos accordingly.
06/09/2003 12:43:02 PM · #2
Originally posted by brentpaugh:

Now that i know that a lot of people here have closed minds i will shoot my photos accordingly.


This similarly closed minded opinion of us all is based on how many comments?

Message edited by author 2003-06-09 12:43:45.
06/09/2003 12:43:23 PM · #3
Guess what? If you're taking a photo depicting a specific theme, and it's not obvious, then yes, some people are going to think it doesn't do as good a job of capturing the topic. That's not "close-minded", it's how some people interpret the topical element of the challenge. I personally like the photo to exemplify the challenge topic, not be all clever and sideways about it, unless the method in which the person is clever and sideways happens to grab me quite well, and that doesn't happen much. (Besides, what some people think is clever other people will think is not. That's the beauty of opinions... but also the downside.)

And being insulting about it doesn't help. If we didn't vote blind I would now have no interest in leaving you comments in the future. As it is, since I still comment on anything I vote on, you'll still get comments from me, but I sure as hell wouldn't seek you out to comment.
06/09/2003 01:09:24 PM · #4
Originally posted by qachyk:

I personally like the photo to exemplify the challenge topic, not be all clever and sideways about it, unless the method in which the person is clever and sideways happens to grab me quite well, and that doesn't happen much.


I give the highest scores to shots that put the topic front and center in a starring role. Therefore, for example, a shot for a 'red' challenge of an urban streetscape that happens to have a very small red VW new Beetle in the left-hand lower corner of the shot? Not very highly-rated for me (to pick an imaginary example).
06/09/2003 02:50:53 PM · #5
Originally posted by qachyk:

And being insulting about it doesn't help.


I said "a lot of people" not all. my comment was not left to insult anyone but to state how to get better scores. i don't really care about the final score given by everyone here or if i win, i care about making photos that i personally think are better than my last and having fun with it. I always see several photos that are better than the one that wins every week. The vote is based on the opinion of people who visit this site so your photo will get voted on based on the trend of the voters on this site and would do differently if presented to another group of 200 or so people.

06/09/2003 02:55:36 PM · #6
Originally posted by eloise:



I give the highest scores to shots that put the topic front and center in a starring role.


You bring that starring role business up all the time. Is this what you mean by 'starring role' and/or was this shot done with curator's eyes?

Message edited by author 2003-06-09 14:56:06.
06/09/2003 02:56:28 PM · #7
perhaps implied liquid = implied good scores :P
06/09/2003 03:31:46 PM · #8
Not that I suppose there's much point in arguing it, but it sounded to me, brentpaugh, like you said "I got a lot of comments like 'foo'. Obviously these people are all close-minded because they didn't see what I was going for." Yes, I know that's not literally what you said, but when you use the phrase close-minded after describing how you feel about these comments, that is exactly how it comes off.

And I was wondering why people don't want to leave comments...
06/09/2003 03:41:37 PM · #9
Originally posted by Journey:

Originally posted by eloise:



I give the highest scores to shots that put the topic front and center in a starring role.


You bring that starring role business up all the time. Is this what you mean by 'starring role' and/or was this shot done with curator's eyes?


In reference to eloise's shot of the tv. I think that is a shot that does infact go with the them sound. And I will prefer a shot that shows the them as "I" see it. I did however not find that shot too appealing and rated it a 4. But for the most part if the Challenge Theme is stairing me in the face then it automatically gets a better rating then some abstract photo or a photo with an implied theme.
06/09/2003 03:42:44 PM · #10
opps guess I am untied with the other bad spellers of the world.. ;-)
06/09/2003 04:41:37 PM · #11
Originally posted by Journey:

Originally posted by eloise:

I give the highest scores to shots that put the topic front and center in a starring role.


You bring that starring role business up all the time. Is this what you mean by 'starring role' and/or was this shot done with curator's eyes?


I'm not necessarily as good at being objective about my shots as anyone else's; it's flavored by what I knew I meant to do and all my editing angst (in this case, the color balance is screwy and I couldn't bring up the gamma without making it more obviously pixelated). I do think the sound is the star of this picture, though - or, rather, the visual that evokes the sound.

Also, often I'll shoot stuff that seemed a good idea at the time, and then a week later or so I'll look at it and realize it sucks. :-> My Home Sweet Home submission, for example, was a rushjob, and another shot taken half an hour later would have been a much better submission, in retrospect.

So far I think I've deserved the scores I've gotten, though apparently lots of people are looking at my liquid submission far differently than I did, and I may well get skunked on that, scorewise. Ahhwell. :-> Another rush job.

Message edited by author 2003-06-09 16:44:47.
06/09/2003 09:05:53 PM · #12
Originally posted by brentpaugh:

I am getting low scores becasue i had a photo that implied liquid. I have comments saying how the person knows there is liquid but since they can't see it visually they are voting it low. The topic doesnt state it cant be implied liquid.

...i will shoot my photos accordingly.


Shooting the current challenge topic, IS difficult. Someone who is able to take a great shot, and have a strong relation to the topic deserves a higher score. Unfortunatly the only way to show this is to push down the scores of photos with weaker links to the topic at hand.

The way I look at it, to judge if you own photo meets a particular challenge (in this case Liquid), imagine the following: (now I don't know what your photo looks like but follow along in this exersize)

You yake your photo and show a good friend of yours who is not familiar with DPC.
You: "Hey have a look at this photo I took."
Friend: "Wow that's a great Photo!"
You: "So, what do you think...?"
Friend: "Yeah, I thinks it very nice."
You: "Yes, but what do you think of the __Liquid__ ?"
Friend: "What __liquid__?"

Is that what your friend is going to say? If they didn't know what the challenge topic was, would they still see it in your Photo? Is it obvious to the casual viewer what the topic is? That is what I am judging on.
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