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01/03/2007 02:12:45 PM · #1 |
| A friend of mine found an ad for a photographer needed to shoot a concert for a band. The guy wants 4 hours of work and 200 photos on a disk. My friend and I were going to tag team this and just split the money. Thing is we have no idea what to charge. Any ideas??? Thanks alot! |
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01/03/2007 02:16:34 PM · #2 |
If you're not going to get any sales on the photos (ie giving them the files) I'd say $1K isn't unreasonable.
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01/03/2007 02:34:53 PM · #3 |
| $1k huh? I don't want to low ball myself, but I also don't want to price myself out of the job. |
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01/03/2007 02:42:07 PM · #4 |
I understand your concerns, seriously. Just sit down and think how much you are willing to be paid per hour for shooting and post-processing these shots. Remember you are pretty much losing all control of what is done with the photos after you hand over the disk.
Wedding photogs would charge upwards of $2000 for what is expected of you here.
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01/03/2007 02:44:57 PM · #5 |
| Very true, I'm just not sure how much a band would be willing to pay a photog. I hate to miss out on this by asking too much. I'm thinking maybe $100/hr per person plus $100 for traveling since the venue is an hour away. |
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01/03/2007 02:46:52 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by A4wheelin:
Very true, I'm just not sure how much a band would be willing to pay a photog. I hate to miss out on this by asking too much. I'm thinking maybe $100/hr per person plus $100 for traveling since the venue is an hour away. |
Sounds reasonable... total cost $900 :-)
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01/03/2007 02:53:55 PM · #7 |
| Yeah that sounds good. Just sent him an email. Wish me luck!!!! |
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01/03/2007 02:55:47 PM · #8 |
| Good luck. Don't forget to have fun if you get the gig. |
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01/03/2007 02:56:54 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Jacko:
Good luck. Don't forget to have fun if you get the gig. |
Oh yeah, I think it would be a blast! I'm excited. Just hope I get it. |
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01/03/2007 02:58:32 PM · #10 |
| what kind of concert is it? |
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01/03/2007 03:03:46 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by noisemaker:
what kind of concert is it? |
Polka? |
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01/03/2007 03:05:13 PM · #12 |
stuff like this is a matter of simple economics, supply and demand. it's a matter of the band finding a photographer that can get them what they need at a price they can afford. it's a matter of the photographer being able to deliver and to be able to make enough money to justify the effort.
some considerations...
the venue's an hour from you. are there other photographers available that won't have to travel? that could affect whether or not you get to charge for travel.
you're asking how much to charge; obviously, you are not an established, working pro (this is not a slam, just a statement of fact). do you have enough good stuff like what the band wants in your portfolio to justify your charging the going professional rate? typically, pay is commiserate with experience.
is the band a full-time band, or are they still working day jobs, gigging as much as they can? if they're established, they are going to be used to hiring professionals, and will have an idea as to what to expect. if they're still aspiring, they might not be able to afford much.
when i'm pricing ANY job, i always ask what they have budgeted. it puts me in a position to negotiate, rather than spitting out a number that could be either way too low, or way too high.
just because they want a cd doesn't mean that you're out in the cold after you deliver. you can contract with them as to how they can use the images you deliver, specifying a royalty of a percentage of sales for any images used on commercial products (ie, t-shirts, posters).
if you're just getting started, then maybe this is the opportunity to make gas money while getting some great shooting experience. sure, everybody wants to get paid as much as possible, but you have to be realistic in your expectations. at the very least, money aside, you can get a good idea as to what's involved in the whole process.
good luck!
ps: i just noticed that i spent too much time responding...so, i'll take another moment to play devil's advocate. if i had a band that could afford $900, i don't know if i would give it to someone who didn't have a pretty decent portfolio that showed the ability to shoot music in just about any place, under any conditions. if my band couldn't afford $900, and you didn't have a portfolio, you would have lost the opportunity to start building one... and lastly, if you do get hired, you might consider renting some real fast glass to do the shoot.
Message edited by author 2007-01-03 15:06:01. |
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01/03/2007 03:16:24 PM · #13 |
If I didn't have anything like it in my portfolio, I'd ask for gas money and just go have fun.
I'd look at other concert/music shots and kind of "storyboard" what I wanted to add to my portfolio. In fact, I'm starting to storyboard most of my shoot now so I know what I'm going in for -and looking for "happy accidents" along the way.
I'm shooting for a local paper under this kind of agreement - they give me an ad, I shoot what they want. It's great experience, I've gotten some cool access to events with my press pass, and my portfolio is growing.
I'm an animator/special effects guy for a living. I started into the video stuff the same way. Doing work for next to nothing, or making up work I could do for free, just to build a demo reel. Once the reel was built I look for indie guys that need stuff I haven't done before so I can work for free for them just to build the portfolio.
It's been 17 years of freelance now, and this "build the portfolio first" has been a good way to go. Very rarely will I talk someone into paying me for stuff I haven't done before just because I've been at it for so long.
Good luck.
Message edited by author 2007-01-03 15:18:02.
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