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12/29/2006 12:08:39 PM · #51
Originally posted by jfriesen:

[quote=MikeJ] you should have sold the camera to Bob for his last offical highest bid that was showing and not what his non-showing highest bid was. That would be the $580 and not the $850.

"Bob" had to accept or reject the Second Chance offer. He chose to accept it at that price..


The second chance offer amount is correct...it should be his last/highest bid....even if it was driven up by another bidder, it was the max he was willing to pay.

I would take the advice of being very specific in your listing. Actually no where did you specifically TYPE...to US only...although the shipping options said USA options, it does not list ONLY....nor do you state what you will accept as payment, you say paypal preferred....

all this doesn't matter because you took other steps and completed the sale. As a frequent seller/buyer on ebay, I would be very skeptical of doing business with you as if you get spooked, you offer to the last guy.

Caution is a good trait, but automatically assuming someone is ripping you off and jump the gun is another thing. I cannot answer/complete my ebay auctions during the day and finalize them at night. so had that been me, you would not have gotten a response from me immediately either.

Also, apparently no one has heard of the snipe programs. that are designed specifically to bid at the last second and steal a winning bid. While I hate them, piss me off actually when they can be faster than me...they are used, and the person can set that up days in advance....i.e. I want that for $965.00 bid if it is still available...

Also, Buy it Nows are used for a quick sale, your hope is not to sell it at that price but are obviously willing to let it go at that price. I usually start with a reserve (lowest willing to let go) list a Buy it Now (if you really want it take it now and not risk a bidding war) and then obviously whatever the bid rises to, and lets hope it rises!!

Bottom line, I'm glad you are happy with the sale, but I hope you don't run into issues with eBay.
12/29/2006 12:09:20 PM · #52
edit: don't know why this posted twice

Message edited by author 2006-12-29 12:10:33.
12/29/2006 12:18:24 PM · #53
While I may have not said "only" USA and "only paypal" :

"Ships to USA" (and no other option) <-- that means only...

Payment options: "Paypal" (and no other option) <--- means only...

And my suspicions were confirmed when I received a sketchy e-mail saying they sent the payment via paypal and I checked the paypal about to refund them when I found nothing...

I respond to them AGAIN, and told them the situation..

I am doing the best I can here!
12/29/2006 12:40:08 PM · #54
There are a bunch of ways to create a new account ID for e-bay or any forum, like on here. You can't depend on IP addresses or domain names to figure out who is legit or not. I've been dealing with the internet since 1994 and electronic communications since the early 80's and even without all of the ways to spoof a address there are very easy ways to sign on as multiple accounts... and not get caught.

And if the buyer decides he might have gotten ripped off and files a complaint with e-bay, pay-pal and/or his credit card company (depending on how he paid) it would be very easy for him to get his money jerked back out of your e-bay account, or at least frozen, faster than it takes to type about it. I'm not saying you created a different account to run up the price, but you most certainly did take advantage of a much higher bid that you are pretty sure was not valid and didn't want to accept to be able to get a lot more money out of Bob than what it appears he would have had to pay had the UK bidder not bid or if his bid had been rejected. That may not be dishonest but it sure is un-ethical in my opinion. Other opinions may differ and I guess you are lucky that Bob wanted it so bad that he didn't mind paying hundreds more than he should have had too. Hopefully on your part he won't start thinking about it or someone won't mention that the deal didn't sound right or he won't see this thread here. ;)

And as the saying goes... A good deal is one where both parties are happy... no matter who got screwed.

Mike
12/29/2006 12:44:26 PM · #55
Originally posted by jfriesen:

While I may have not said "only" USA and "only paypal" :

"Ships to USA" (and no other option) <-- that means only...

Payment options: "Paypal" (and no other option) <--- means only...

And my suspicions were confirmed when I received a sketchy e-mail saying they sent the payment via paypal and I checked the paypal about to refund them when I found nothing...

I respond to them AGAIN, and told them the situation..

I am doing the best I can here!


BE AWARE - Paypal DOES "hold" some types of payment for 5 or 6 days. I know this from personal experience. This COULD be the truth on their part.
12/29/2006 12:56:46 PM · #56
I feel like some bob-hugging right now.
12/29/2006 02:30:05 PM · #57
Originally posted by jfriesen:

While I may have not said "only" USA and "only paypal" :

"Ships to USA" (and no other option) <-- that means only...

Payment options: "Paypal" (and no other option) <--- means only...

And my suspicions were confirmed when I received a sketchy e-mail saying they sent the payment via paypal and I checked the paypal about to refund them when I found nothing...

I respond to them AGAIN, and told them the situation..

I am doing the best I can here!

For future reference, there are ways to restrict who can bid on your auctions based on requirements you set. You set a list of requirements the buyers must meet, and unless the bidder meets all requirements they are not allowed to place a bid. Check eBay's buyer requirements help page for more info.

This would have prevented all of this completely.

David
12/29/2006 03:11:05 PM · #58
Doing some ore sniffing around and the original buyer has a listed country of the U.K. but a Postal Code in Nigeria... Hmm...

Also, I got the buyer's telephone from ebay and called it and I got back "The number you have dialed is invalid"

Geez.
01/02/2007 09:36:33 AM · #59
sounds like your suspicions may be correct....just curious if you received ANY contact from them???


01/02/2007 10:22:15 AM · #60
Originally posted by jfriesen:

And my suspicions were confirmed when I received a sketchy e-mail saying they sent the payment via paypal and I checked the paypal about to refund them when I found nothing...

I respond to them AGAIN, and told them the situation..


They're not concerned, they've moved on. Once you didn't send them a "refund" for money they never paid you, they went on to victim No. Trillion. That's my bet.
01/02/2007 10:31:38 AM · #61
This is the same scam that someone tried to pull on my boyfriend ... profile said they lived in the UK ... but sent email wanting the item shipped to Nigeria ... and that they had already paid via PayPal ... the sad part is that his "second chance offer" was rejected because the person already bought another item ...

This mostly happens to higher end electronics and cameras from what I can tell ... wish that eBay had a way to prevent that sort of thing from happening
01/02/2007 10:35:40 AM · #62
As a seasoned ebay buyer/seller, #1 rule is: PayPal only. Pretty hard to scam you on PayPal.

#2 - eSnipe. I never bid on anything. I place a bid on esnipe that goes in the last couple of seconds. Pisses some people off, but serious buyers mostly do that today.

I see alot of low feedback/no feedback users bidding up things and/or winning. I would suspect a majority are 'shill bidders' to either create flase hype or the seller 'buys' the item because he wasn't getting enough, and didn't set a reserve to avoid ebay fees.

Ebay, for the past couple years, has become scam riddled, and is now mostly a dumping ground for off shore importers.

Ebay offers virtualy no help. Case of fox gaurding the hen house. They would go under in a heart beat if thier handful of mega sellers (er, mega dumpers, mega counterfiters) pulled out.

Message edited by author 2007-01-02 10:39:47.
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