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12/22/2006 10:05:43 AM · #1 |
Boy that Subject line would make my kids cry..
I am going to be taking photos of Kids on Santas lap later this afternoon. I could use some advice on Lighting. there is a real fireplace which will be lit. We are going to place santas chair to the side of the fireplace so it can be the backdrop. Kind of a warm setting the room is lit with recessed lighting a couple of accent lights pointing down on the fireplace etc It should be dark outside by then so I am not too worried about other light spilling in.
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I have 2 speed lights, a lumiquest softbox as well as a 20-80 with the gold silver and white reflectors. I also have a 42 inch 5 in one reflector.
I have 2 lowel light kits but they are set up for video more so than photography however I can put some lower watt bulbs in if need be currently they are all 500-750 watt halogens way too bright. I have 2 softbox 4 floods and 4 spots.
I also have gold and silver umbrellas.
So if you were using this equipment or anything close, how would you set it up so the detail of the fire shows up and still have the subject well lit?
I have about 7 hours from now before i have to go set up so plenty of time to poor on the advice.
thanks in advance,. and Merry Christmas.
Message edited by author 2006-12-22 10:08:12.
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12/22/2006 10:10:03 AM · #2 |
i'd aim between the eyes.
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i'd avoid the lowel lights, unless you like your santa medium well done.
which speedlights do you have? |
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12/22/2006 10:11:41 AM · #3 |
SB-600s Originally posted by muckpond:
i'd aim between the eyes.
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i'd avoid the lowel lights, unless you like your santa medium well done.
which speedlights do you have? |
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12/22/2006 10:29:26 AM · #4 |
i'm no pro at this, but i would think that one strobe on santa and the kid would be plenty. my main concern would be lighting the whole scene.
use one strobe with the softbox on santa, and put the reflector on the opposite side of santa to use with that light.
pull the chair out from the fireplace (to avoid shadows). if you get a good exposure on santa but not on the fireplace, use the 2nd strobe. you can put it on low power (1/32?) behind santa's chair to pop some light on the fireplace. if you can diffuse that background light a bit that would be best.
i have never used 600s without an 800 as a master. can you use them wirelessly with your onboard flash? |
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12/22/2006 10:39:46 AM · #5 |
Yeah my camera will be the master. I also have SU-4's that I can mount if I need but have not used them since I got my d200.
Originally posted by muckpond:
i have never used 600s without an 800 as a master. can you use them wirelessly with your onboard flash? |
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12/22/2006 10:47:16 AM · #6 |
I would use one of my floods with a couple of gels to kill the power a little but those things get very hot and with the little kids running around I figured it best not have it around. plus like you said wouldnt be good to cook santa 2 days before xmas. a picture of santa with his beard on fire however ,, hmmmmm I better leave the lights at home. thanks for the advice Rob, by the way I love your portfolio photo. Taken at the greatest place on earth, that is awesome also would be the ideal place to shoot the harsh enviroment photo. I think i will put a shot of me on here pretty much in the same spot you were standing.
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12/22/2006 11:08:10 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
Taken at the greatest place on earth, that is awesome also would be the ideal place to shoot the harsh enviroment photo. |
you are definitely right about that, although it was sunny and 47 when i was there last weekend. :) :) :) it was colder in the atrium underneath than out in the sun. |
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12/22/2006 11:12:35 AM · #8 |
Is there fire in the fireplace? If so, meter the fire and see if you can slow the shutter down enough to get some warm glow out of the fire without risking residual motion blur of your subjects. (the strobes should freeze them, but if they aren't holding still and your shutter is too slow you might still see some motion blur)
I've never tried shooting subjects in front of a fireplace myself, so I'm really just thinking of what I'd try. Experiment before the kids get there so you can decide whether or not to go with it.
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12/22/2006 11:25:19 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
Yeah my camera will be the master. |
No no no! YOU must be the master of your camera!!
((runs away))
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12/22/2006 11:31:14 AM · #10 |
lol as long as I hang around this site, my camera shall rule over me.
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
Yeah my camera will be the master. |
No no no! YOU must be the master of your camera!!
((runs away)) |
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12/22/2006 11:39:57 AM · #11 |
yes, it is a gas fire place with artifical logs and coals. has a nice red glow when lit. A friend of mine suggested I take a few shots of the fireplace by itself and then green screen the shots with santa and chroma key the backdrop afterwards. I think that will be the route I go if I cant get the lighting down the natural way. providing I never move the camera once I start shooting everything should line up quite well. I have a 12 x 10 green cloth and plenty of light to cover it evenly. I forgot to mention ill be using my tamron 90mm if that makes any difference....
Originally posted by dwterry:
Is there fire in the fireplace? If so, meter the fire and see if you can slow the shutter down enough to get some warm glow out of the fire without risking residual motion blur of your subjects. (the strobes should freeze them, but if they aren't holding still and your shutter is too slow you might still see some motion blur)
I've never tried shooting subjects in front of a fireplace myself, so I'm really just thinking of what I'd try. Experiment before the kids get there so you can decide whether or not to go with it. |
Message edited by author 2006-12-22 11:40:38.
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