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12/19/2006 05:36:32 AM · #1 |
Many of the entries that do well on dpc are portraits where the eys seem to have wonderful clarity and colur - i have been playing around in cs2 but haven't yet found a really good technique - does anyone have a favourite method that they would be prepared to share ?
i am also curious about dealing with lined faces - it can looked really good but i have seen images where wrinkles etc have been really neatly removed/ minimised - is there an approved way of approaching this ?
i am probably thinking about advanced editing challenges here although if it were possible in basic that would be great
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12/19/2006 05:42:05 AM · #2 |
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12/19/2006 05:44:33 AM · #3 |
I have several ways to do the eyes. One of them is to select the eyes copy them into a new layer and adjust contrast, saturation, bit of dodging and burning.
So for basic editing that would not be allowed :)
edit: I mean not the whole eye but just the iris(is that the right word for it?)
Message edited by author 2006-12-19 05:46:35.
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12/19/2006 06:03:42 AM · #4 |
That's what I generally do.
Layer, new layer via copy, then zoom in to the eye(s), use the Elliptical Marquis Marquee Tool to drag a circle around the Iris to select it, then try a number of different techniques depending on the eye. Genarally I go to Image, Adjustments, Levels, Options, and with the Shadow & Highlight boxes set to 0.5 (my defaults) hit Ok. At times it is too extreme, and go to Edit, Fade, and adjust the amount neded for a realistic level, and hit Ok. Then using a small eraser tool set to 100% opacity, carefully go around the Iris and erase back what you din't want changed. When satisfied, flatten the layer. This can be repeated again, only this time select the whole eye in a new layer via copy, and adjust the brightness/contrast to get the whites a bit brighter and erasing anything that you didn't want changed, and in this case, may include the Iris, possibly adjusting the strength of the eraser tool for the Iris, then flatten again.
You can see the before (left) and after (right) below in a real quick edit as I outlined above.
Message edited by author 2006-12-19 07:18:19.
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12/19/2006 06:40:05 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by BradP:
use the Elliptical Marquis Tool
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Oooh, a bit hoity-toity there. My Elements 3 version just calls it the Elliptical Marquee Tool. ;>þ (I don't know why it's called that. A marquee is just a large tent.)
And another ;>þ |
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12/19/2006 07:11:37 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
... I don't know why it's called that. A marquee is just a large tent. ...
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Although this is off topic for the subject of the thread, I got curious on this one, as I don't have a clue either why it is called marquee.
I found in Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary:
"b : a sign usually over the entrance of a theater or arena that displays the names of featured attractions and principal performers"
Now the letters on those signs are sometimes moving (there is an html-tag btw. that does the same, also called marquee) and I guess the marquee tool is called as it is called because of the "moving ants" used to highlight the selected area. This line is somewhat similar to the moving letters on a marquee.
Any better suggestions welcome.
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12/19/2006 07:17:34 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Originally posted by BradP:
use the Elliptical Marquis Tool
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Oooh, a bit hoity-toity there. My Elements 3 version just calls it the Elliptical Marquee Tool. ;>þ (I don't know why it's called that. A marquee is just a large tent.)
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LOL - Marquee - so I'mma dork.
:P
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12/19/2006 08:34:53 AM · #8 |
nice results there dork ;)
you could just call it 'that-thingy-that-helps-you-select-round-things'
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12/19/2006 08:57:13 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
nice results there dork ;)
you could just call it 'that-thingy-that-helps-you-select-round-things' |
Hahaha! I'm having visions of Brad working in his auto shop and he asks an assistant to hand him the thingamobob so he can adjust the whatchamacallit. :-D
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12/19/2006 10:09:15 AM · #10 |
| What a great tip, Brad. Thanks! I just tried this and it works great. I don't take too many portraits, but that 0.5 shadow & highlight settings tip for the levels options is great. Seems like it will be good for general purposes. |
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12/19/2006 10:28:20 AM · #11 |
I tend to be kinda picky about the eyes - for some reason, I can't STAND to see blood vessels in the whites (probly cause they're called 'whites'...)
I'm learning that it takes a combination of dodging the whites and burning the edges of the iris, plus adding a small amount of saturation. Still not very good at it, but its fun to learn about. Feel free to keep sharing techniques!!!
((Anybody care to comment, good or bad?))
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12/20/2006 02:08:30 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by rossbilly:
I tend to be kinda picky about the eyes - for some reason, I can't STAND to see blood vessels in the whites (probly cause they're called 'whites'...)
I'm learning that it takes a combination of dodging the whites and burning the edges of the iris, plus adding a small amount of saturation. Still not very good at it, but its fun to learn about. Feel free to keep sharing techniques!!!
((Anybody care to comment, good or bad?))
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you did a good job on the eyes, maybe I would have made them a little more blue to match her shirt. Lovely photo!
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12/20/2006 02:32:49 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by rossbilly:
((Anybody care to comment, good or bad?)) |
Hey Bily,
My first impression was of an imbalance. For her skin tone & color and her fair complexion, her Irisssesss seem a bit dark.
(My new made up wurd for the day - Irisssesss)
I took your image and what I did was new layer via copy, took that-thingy-that-helps-you-select-round-things' and selected her Irisssesss, went to Image, Adjustments, Brightness/Contrast and bumped them both up about 10%, zoomed way in and erased everything but the Irisssesss, then went back to view full size, right-clicked the layer, selected blending options and slid the % slider around until I got the levels that looked natural. The blending makes it easy, as you can see live-time on screen as it changes. Then I flattened and saved.
I opted not to pop the saturation up any and keep it more natural.
To compare them, click on each, and then switch between them in the toolbar to see the changes, which works nearly as well as a mouseover before/after comparison:
The eyes make or break a shot - it's tough to get them right.
Message edited by author 2006-12-20 02:34:06.
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12/20/2006 02:41:31 AM · #14 |
Firewall blocks that page :(
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12/20/2006 02:44:00 AM · #15 |
Probably the word Pimp - save the url and put it in as allowed, or remove the word Pimp from the block list.
(It's all Cindi's fault)
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12/20/2006 08:49:16 AM · #16 |
*BradP*
Yer spelin iZ getin lots gudder & them irissssesss is purdy flaurs, aint thay?
Seriously - wow, your method of brightening works much better than what 'eye' was doing; thanks for the tip about trying to match the shirt & eyes... i like that alot!
*Puckzzz*
Good point on getting a tighter crop - where were ya BEFORE i ordered a huge print LOL. thanks for mentioning it though, as that might be a great way to trim from a 2/3 format into a more commonly-sized photo for our wall.
I can always count on this place to take/lead/pull/kick me on to the 'next level' of editing, and I appreciate all the help!!! ;)
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