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12/15/2006 06:05:06 PM · #26 |
forget about the scenerio... there is a move to recommend that everyone get tested. why? because this scenerio may be happening but you don't know about it yet. see this article for some more background.
if there is even the slightest bit of suspicion, you get tested. |
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12/15/2006 06:28:01 PM · #27 |
Testing, why not?
Punishment? No.
Why not?
Because when you (the word you is used here as a generalization, not personal) feel the desire to cheat, you really have to wonder if the 'relation' you are in is really that healthy. Why the hell did you cheat if you 'really' love your partner. If your parner doesn't show you the door it might be better to be honest to yourself and your partner quit the relationship.
Of course there are also the 'open' relationships. The situation would be different and in those situations there is no need for punishment.
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12/16/2006 01:34:58 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Because when you (the word you is used here as a generalization, not personal) feel the desire to cheat, you really have to wonder if the 'relation' you are in is really that healthy. Why the hell did you cheat if you 'really' love your partner. If your parner doesn't show you the door it might be better to be honest to yourself and your partner quit the relationship. |
One COULD argue that cheating is bilogically programmed. Males are wired to disseminate their seed as often as possible in order that their genes be the ones that succeed. Homo Sapien has been around for 200,000 years and marriage has been around for what small percentage of these? The first writing system was in 5000 BC. Spoken language probably 10,000 BC. When did the concept of marriage get created?
In some cultures the 'cheat' is actually designed into the culture, i.e. Polygamy, 'Open' marriages, Mistresses. Hell, these days 50% of first marriages are EXPECTED to fail. This rises to 80% when either spouse is in their second marriage! What does this say about us as a species? |
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12/16/2006 02:38:06 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by _eug:
What does this say about us as a species? |
We're effed?
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12/16/2006 08:27:03 AM · #30 |
Yes, get tested. The cheap and easy way to do that is to just go give blood. They will anonymously test your blood for you and it doesn't cost a thing. Also, if you're negative they can use your blood to possibly save someones life.
As for punishment....*shrug* that's up to the people involved and if they WANT to reconcile or not. |
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12/16/2006 09:12:34 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by kudzu:
i'll give my answer in the form of a 12 step program :
step 1) quit having sex with people you can't trust
step 2) quit having sex with people other than your spouse
step 3) quit having sex
step 4) get tested
step 5) beg forgiveness from God
step 7) seek professional counseling
step 8) accept forgiveness from God
step 9) beg forgiveness from spouse
step 10*) accept physical beating from a small group of male friends/relatives
step 11) accept forgiveness from friends/relatives
step 12) accept forgiveness from spouse (you can now have sex again...)
if step 12 doesn't come, no more sex for you
* this step will be slightly modified if the cheater is female, but being male, i'm not sure how it should work... probably involve a lot of tea and crying and such... |
step 13) Go buy that new lens you alway's wanted. :) |
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12/16/2006 10:29:09 AM · #32 |
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Message edited by author 2006-12-16 12:23:11. |
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12/16/2006 10:58:45 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by _eug:
One COULD argue that cheating is bilogically programmed. Males are wired to disseminate their seed as often as possible in order that their genes be the ones that succeed. Homo Sapien has been around for 200,000 years and marriage has been around for what small percentage of these? The first writing system was in 5000 BC. Spoken language probably 10,000 BC. When did the concept of marriage get created? |
I'll remember this for the time I might get into trouble. :)
One wonders if our Species isn't a failed mutation of the Bonobo (Pan paniscus). They seem to have a lot of fun, but as far as I know do not really have to worry about HIV.
Originally posted by _eug:
In some cultures the 'cheat' is actually designed into the culture, i.e. Polygamy, 'Open' marriages, Mistresses. Hell, these days 50% of first marriages are EXPECTED to fail. This rises to 80% when either spouse is in their second marriage! What does this say about us as a species? |
We like to F* everyone we can get?
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12/16/2006 11:17:32 AM · #34 |
This OP has posed thought-provoking questions before, and this is another.
The thread indicates, 100%, that everyone should get tested. Not only for HIV/AIDS, but for all the STDs that lurk out there. On this subject, I would add, what in the world is anyone doing, these days, having unprotected sex.
As far as "punishment" I have no opinion, and should have none. It's up to the partnership involved.
But there is one more thing that hasn't been discussed in this Thread. Those biological children.
That parent runs the risk of, at the very least, alienating those kids. And at worst, being unable to assist in, or even see, the development of these children as they grow into adulthood.
That, to me, would be hell on earth. |
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12/16/2006 11:37:00 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by NathanW:
Yes, get tested. The cheap and easy way to do that is to just go give blood. They will anonymously test your blood for you and it doesn't cost a thing. |
NOOOOO! Wrong answer! HIV may not show in the blood test for a year or more. If you think you might be infected, giving blood is a horrible thing to do. What if it slips through the screening and is infected?
Just go to a free health clinic for the test and do it the right way.
Message edited by author 2006-12-16 11:37:50.
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12/16/2006 11:57:25 AM · #36 |
| I think in this age of sexual diseases which kill, infidelity is unforgivable. If the "cheating" parent wants to take that chance with their own body, he/she should leave their spouse and not risk having their children become orphans. The unsuspecting spouse would not know to protect themselves from an unknown threat. |
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12/16/2006 01:11:05 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by kdsprog:
...and not risk having their children become orphans. The unsuspecting spouse would not know to protect themselves from an unknown threat. |
This is exactly what is being dealt with in Africa right now. The educational campaigns are trying to impact the culture of "what I don't know won't hurt me." In Kenya the results have been good, but in other areas there is still much work to be done. |
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