This style of photography is getting more popular

Leica 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 Vario Elmar-T ASPH

11/08/2006 12:04:24 PM · #29

Maybe it's just me - but to me this is not photography (and I don't like it at all)

But from a technical perspective the pictures are impressive.

MAK

Leica M Monochrom

11/08/2006 12:11:25 PM · #30

Originally posted by AJAger:

Dave Hill?? Wasn't he the guitarist in Slade?

You live in my head dude.. come on feel the noise

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

11/08/2006 12:12:00 PM · #31

I disagree it's HDR because it's models. I don't know how fast cameras can bracket exposures, but I would think it would be hard to hold still enough in some of those dynamic poses (the paddle ball, etc) to allow multiple exposures.

I guess you could process the same shot over again, but that doesn't take advantage of the full range of HDR and his results are extreme.

I don't know what it is though.

11/08/2006 12:16:00 PM · #32

we've been seeing

susi do this for a while now, you can also create an effect like this by using way too much fill light in raw, and adding it as another layer.

Some of the things, like the one of the guy on the hanglider ( I forget his name, he's in 'Emplyeee of the Month') took A LOT more than just the HDR processing.

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

11/08/2006 12:17:56 PM · #33

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I think you could approximate the results if you used fill light on some of the layers though, I wish I had CS2 so I could at least experiment. There will no doubt be an .atn file up somewhere pretty soon.

AlexSaberi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

11/08/2006 12:20:52 PM · #34

Originally posted by wavelength:

we've been seeing susi do this for a while now, you can also create an effect like this by using way too much fill light in raw, and adding it as another layer.

Some of the things, like the one of the guy on the hanglider ( I forget his name, he's in 'Emplyeee of the Month') took A LOT more than just the HDR processing.

I really dont think the 2 are comparable though really. For me they seem a world away

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/08/2006 12:23:27 PM · #35

Originally posted by silverscreen:

Maybe it's just me - but to me this is not photography (and I don't like it at all)

But from a technical perspective the pictures are impressive.

How is it not photography, he's using the HDR technique, yes. But if you also look into the pictures with a more criical eye, his lighting is amazing, some of the effects you think might just be HDR, are his use of flashes outdoors and underexposing the backgrounds to heighten the effect.

It is photography, he's not even adding anything in with a paintbrush, he's using pixels captured in camera, and modifying them just as you could do (with a whole LOT more work) on a piece of film.

justine

Canon EOS-50D

11/08/2006 12:27:15 PM · #36

IMHO it works as a forum of photography art. There are all kinds of styles. I like it but wouldn't want a steady diet of it. Some of them are truly interesting, fun and beautiful.

11/08/2006 12:29:52 PM · #37

It's definitely not multiple exposure HDR. It might be HDR from a single RAW file. I'm thinking wavelength is correct about using Fill in RAW conversion. Probably some tweaking on the Highlights/Shadows, which would create a drawn look if you had very concise control of lighting as he apparently does.

This is work by a very skilled artist and can't be duplicated by just PP alone.

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

11/08/2006 12:29:53 PM · #38

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

I really dont think the 2 are comparable though really. For me they seem a world away

I dunno, I think the biggest difference is the subject matter, the second being the LaChappelle setups, lights, and backgrounds. I was speaking just of the processing technique in mentioning Susi.

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ShaneBlake

Nikon D7100

11/08/2006 12:30:17 PM · #39

Originally posted by Megatherian:

The girl with the toaster is the cheerleader on "Heros"

i noticed that as well...

really cool images...

Falc

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

11/08/2006 12:33:12 PM · #40

Originally posted by silverscreen:

Maybe it's just me - but to me this is not photography (and I don't like it at all)

But from a technical perspective the pictures are impressive.

Of course its photography, or originated in photography. Just taken further along the artistic path than you expect.

silverscreen

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

11/08/2006 12:35:24 PM · #41

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by silverscreen:
Maybe it's just me - but to me this is not photography (and I don't like it at all)

But from a technical perspective the pictures are impressive.

How is it not photography, he's using the HDR technique, yes. But if you also look into the pictures with a more criical eye, his lighting is amazing, some of the effects you think might just be HDR, are his use of flashes outdoors and underexposing the backgrounds to heighten the effect.

It is photography, he's not even adding anything in with a paintbrush, he's using pixels captured in camera, and modifying them just as you could do (with a whole LOT more work) on a piece of film.

Yes of course it's photography due to the fact that the original picture was captured by the use of a camera. But the final pictures are so far away from what the camera saw that it's no longer photography - at least not in the way that I understand (and like) photography.

Let say that an artist makes a pencil drawing of something - and when he returns to his studio he makes and oilpaint on top of and based on the drawing - you wouldn't call that a drawing any longer I guess - and to me this is just the same. It's no longer a photograph but it's based on a photograph.

jodiecoston

Canon EOS-450D Rebel XSi

11/08/2006 12:35:46 PM · #42

There's a link at the bottom right called "behind the scenes" that shows videos and images of his shoots... Serious skilled lighting, amazing work.

PhantomEWO

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/08/2006 12:41:14 PM · #43

Got it thanks

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11/08/2006 12:42:05 PM · #44

Originally posted by silverscreen:

First, how do you know? I'd love to see one of his RAW files, as I'm sure in themselves they are damn good.

Secondly, I think a lot of what you are seeing is an ability to use lighting. PP is secondary, not primary to the effect.

silverscreen

11/08/2006 12:50:41 PM · #45

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Yes I'm sure his raw files are good - no doubt about that. And he knows how to light his pictures as well. But, unless he lives on a planet very different from where I live, I do not believe that these pictures are "what the camera saw".

But hey - that's just how I feel about them. In the end it's probably just a matter of taste...

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

11/08/2006 12:56:16 PM · #46

Sooo, who is going to invite him to DPC to clear it all up for us? ;-)

JamesKW

Canon EOS-5D

11/08/2006 01:12:34 PM · #47

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

Originally posted by wavelength:
we've been seeing susi do this for a while now, you can also create an effect like this by using way too much fill light in raw, and adding it as another layer.

Some of the things, like the one of the guy on the hanglider ( I forget his name, he's in 'Emplyeee of the Month') took A LOT more than just the HDR processing.

I really dont think the 2 are comparable though really. For me they seem a world away

She has a DVD for sale on her website that explains how to process these images. Susi DVD

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/08/2006 01:16:24 PM · #48

jk!

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