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11/04/2006 12:30:39 PM · #126 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Because there's a conspiracy behind everything if you look hard enough... |
"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they arean't out to get me." |
SHHH...be very very quiet I'm hunting Generals....... |
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11/04/2006 12:42:29 PM · #127 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
"Paranoia is not the belief that everybody's out to get you -- they are.
Paranoia is the belief that everybody's conspiring to get you." |
What do you call the belief that, not everybody, but only a few people are not only conspiring to get you; but are actually doing it?
And, by what definition would you consider us to have been "gotten"?
Message edited by author 2006-11-04 12:43:48. |
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11/04/2006 12:56:35 PM · #128 |
Brief diversion: has anyone here beside me had actual training in making psychological assessments?
BTW: I got that quote off a bumper-sticker -- it is not original with me ... |
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11/04/2006 12:58:53 PM · #129 |
| My training is more in the educational setting, but yes, I've had some limited training in the psy assessment area. It's been a while and I'm a bit dusty on it, though. |
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11/04/2006 01:01:18 PM · #130 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Brief diversion: has anyone here beside me had actual training in making psychological assessments?
BTW: I got that quote off a bumper-sticker -- it is not original with me ... |
That's a great question! Can't wait to hear the answers.
As for myself, my only experiences are on the receiving end; and consist of being told by various physchologists that I am OK! (Despite what most DPCers probably think:P)
Message edited by author 2006-11-04 13:01:39. |
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11/04/2006 02:32:25 PM · #131 |
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11/05/2006 02:20:40 PM · #132 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Brief diversion: has anyone here beside me had actual training in making psychological assessments?
BTW: I got that quote off a bumper-sticker -- it is not original with me ... |
Gives GeneralE the MMPI :) MMPI
Message edited by author 2006-11-05 14:21:23. |
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11/09/2006 03:02:12 PM · #133 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Originally posted by vtruan:
I think the Secretary of State for Florida was a Democrat at the time, so she must have been a Republican in descise. Not... |
Sorry if I'm missing something..not enough coffee..but what did that statement mean? I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't get it.
Republican Katherine Harris was Florida's Secretary of State.
And Republican Tom Feeney was the congressman who hired the hacker to write the program. |
Apparently, Tom Feeney kept the code to himself - he was reelected ( but NOT by a 51/49 margin ) against the same man, Clint Curtis, who swore in that video that he created a PROTOTYPE, for Tom Feeney, of a program that could rig voting machines to return the 51/49 victory. If Feeney had actually used the code, he wouldn't have won so handily. If he had only shared the code with his fellow Republicans, perhaps the House would still have a Republican majority. Then again, perhaps the code never existed beyond the PROTOTYPE stage until Princeton created it - and they ( Princeton ) apparently didn't share the code with anyone.
Oh, well. So much for the Democrats' argument that the use of electronic voting machines is a Republican plot to steal elections.
So, let's put that myth to rest.
At least, until the Democrats lose in 2008, at which time we can expect the same arguments to be resurrected. |
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11/09/2006 06:36:06 PM · #134 |
Originally posted by RonB:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Originally posted by vtruan:
I think the Secretary of State for Florida was a Democrat at the time, so she must have been a Republican in descise. Not... |
Sorry if I'm missing something..not enough coffee..but what did that statement mean? I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't get it.
Republican Katherine Harris was Florida's Secretary of State.
And Republican Tom Feeney was the congressman who hired the hacker to write the program. |
Apparently, Tom Feeney kept the code to himself - he was reelected ( but NOT by a 51/49 margin ) against the same man, Clint Curtis, who swore in that video that he created a PROTOTYPE, for Tom Feeney, of a program that could rig voting machines to return the 51/49 victory. If Feeney had actually used the code, he wouldn't have won so handily. If he had only shared the code with his fellow Republicans, perhaps the House would still have a Republican majority. Then again, perhaps the code never existed beyond the PROTOTYPE stage until Princeton created it - and they ( Princeton ) apparently didn't share the code with anyone.
Oh, well. So much for the Democrats' argument that the use of electronic voting machines is a Republican plot to steal elections.
So, let's put that myth to rest.
At least, until the Democrats lose in 2008, at which time we can expect the same arguments to be resurrected. |
Something I'd love to put to rest is the polarity. I do my level best to avoid party digs; and I've stated umpteen times that I'm an Independent and pretty middle of the road. I think the Bush Administration has done a great disservice to the Republican party and if you accuse me of anything it should be for pointing out the fact that these criminals have infiltrated the party and abused the good intentions of true Republicans to make a mockery of our Constitution and the Geneva Convention.
However, the links I posted were in response to an incorrect statement (which vtruan quickly corrected) that a Democrat was in charge of the Florida elections in question. I further pointed out that another Republican was aware of the vulnernability to hacking, since he hired someone to test it. I'm pretty sure I never accused Feeney of using that code. My point was (and is) that I don't think we are ready for those machines; and don't know when we will be. Here's a little irony, just to illustrate my point. |
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11/10/2006 12:30:07 AM · #135 |
Not sure how those machines worked there, but the one I used here in Colorado, would not let me "skip a page" till I scrolled all the way to the bottom for the NEXT PAGE button, and continued in that fashion until the end was reached. Then It had a little paper printer (protected under lexan) that printed up. The screen asked you to look at ti and confirm your choices, then you went to the next page and it printed, confirm it, etc. You were able to make changes to the ballot 3 times if needed. It would VOID that ballot and then you start over again. When done it printed and fed into a small metal box. Looks almost foolproof, "but then again I am not a great fool, and this you probably knew. You've fallen for one of the world's greatest blunders. First, NEVER start a land war in Asia, and second, NEVER, go against a Sicilian when death is on the line. HAhaHAhaAHHa...eeeecccckkkkk!"
or something like that. :)
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11/10/2006 12:44:29 PM · #136 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Not that Washington isn't overflowing with spoiled rich brats already, but your idea would make government their exclusive playground. |
It already is. You can tell this by observing people spend millions of dollars to obtain a job that pays 140,000 a year. |
Those people aren't all spending their own millions. |
When you have the ability to spend those millions, it matters not where they came from. ;) |
Those funds that are not personal, can't be spent on personal things. If a politician has $8million in campaign funds, they must be spent on campaigning, not a new Beemer for their daughter's sweet sixteen party. |
You miss the point entirely. The Beemer funds come from the power they can exercise after getting the office. So spending someone elses money still matters not. Oh, BTW these campaign funds can, and have been spent on personal things.
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11/10/2006 08:54:01 PM · #137 |
The problem in florida seems to be the voters are not able to figure out how to vote. Not saying all voters, but it seems like people are just not paying attention. After reading the CNN article you pointed out I am left wondering why someone would not have been left to question where the candidate was that was missing. So its either they did not realize who they were voting for or just did not follow instructions. Whos fault is that. The voters. In Alabama we use paper ballots and an electronic counter. If you fail to flip over the ballot you miss half of the candidates. Now it may just be me, but I always read anything I am voting on or signing.. I really don't know how much easier it can get than that.
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Originally posted by RonB:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Originally posted by vtruan:
I think the Secretary of State for Florida was a Democrat at the time, so she must have been a Republican in descise. Not... |
Sorry if I'm missing something..not enough coffee..but what did that statement mean? I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't get it.
Republican Katherine Harris was Florida's Secretary of State.
And Republican Tom Feeney was the congressman who hired the hacker to write the program. |
Apparently, Tom Feeney kept the code to himself - he was reelected ( but NOT by a 51/49 margin ) against the same man, Clint Curtis, who swore in that video that he created a PROTOTYPE, for Tom Feeney, of a program that could rig voting machines to return the 51/49 victory. If Feeney had actually used the code, he wouldn't have won so handily. If he had only shared the code with his fellow Republicans, perhaps the House would still have a Republican majority. Then again, perhaps the code never existed beyond the PROTOTYPE stage until Princeton created it - and they ( Princeton ) apparently didn't share the code with anyone.
Oh, well. So much for the Democrats' argument that the use of electronic voting machines is a Republican plot to steal elections.
So, let's put that myth to rest.
At least, until the Democrats lose in 2008, at which time we can expect the same arguments to be resurrected. |
Something I'd love to put to rest is the polarity. I do my level best to avoid party digs; and I've stated umpteen times that I'm an Independent and pretty middle of the road. I think the Bush Administration has done a great disservice to the Republican party and if you accuse me of anything it should be for pointing out the fact that these criminals have infiltrated the party and abused the good intentions of true Republicans to make a mockery of our Constitution and the Geneva Convention.
However, the links I posted were in response to an incorrect statement (which vtruan quickly corrected) that a Democrat was in charge of the Florida elections in question. I further pointed out that another Republican was aware of the vulnernability to hacking, since he hired someone to test it. I'm pretty sure I never accused Feeney of using that code. My point was (and is) that I don't think we are ready for those machines; and don't know when we will be. Here's a little irony, just to illustrate my point. |
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11/10/2006 09:56:11 PM · #138 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
You miss the point entirely. |
So says the pot to the kettle. |
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