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11/02/2006 08:43:17 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by virtuamike:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I always encourage models I don't know well to bring a friend, male or female to watch, especially if you work out of your house or in a remote/isolated location. Helps eliminate the "creep" factor. Sometimes I've gotten the friends to work as models too. |
Everyone has a different policy on escorts.
Personally I never require one. If the model wants to bring one, then I let them know that everyone on set is either helpful or invisible - I don't want distractions. It's not too much to expect grown adults to act maturely.
Besides, I feel that if I required an escort on every shoot that I'd be perpetuating the "creep" factor stereotype. I don't see how a shoot could be productive if you can't feel safe around your photographer. |
I encourage, not require it, it's more for the model's peace of mind really.
Linda Sobek trusted her photographer, Charles Rathbun and look what it got her.
Message edited by author 2006-11-02 20:44:51. |
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11/03/2006 02:15:19 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I encourage, not require it, it's more for the model's peace of mind really.
Linda Sobek trusted her photographer, Charles Rathbun and look what it got her. |
Given the number of photographers and photo shoots that happen on a daily basis, I consider this an isolated case. People still fly in planes and drive cars.
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11/03/2006 02:21:51 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by crayon:
A question: during model shoot, assuming the model is an amateur (first timer?), do you command the poses?
Also, out of curiousity, do you guys shoot in a serious expression, or friendly (but authoritatively?) ? Thanks |
Short answer, yes you should be in control. Long answer, it varies how you go about it. Some people need a lot of direction - head here, arms there, shoulders this way, hips that way, etc. I don't like doing it that way because it feels static, but sometimes it's what I need to get the shot I want. Other people know how to pose based off cues - I communicate the set and mood and what I want, and then we just go. Then again, not everyone's experienced enough to work that way.
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11/03/2006 10:45:44 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by virtuamike:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I encourage, not require it, it's more for the model's peace of mind really.
Linda Sobek trusted her photographer, Charles Rathbun and look what it got her. |
Given the number of photographers and photo shoots that happen on a daily basis, I consider this an isolated case. People still fly in planes and drive cars. |
Granted, it's one case, but there are investigators who believe that Linda's murder is only one of many that Charles Rathbun is responsible for.
There's also the case of William Richard Bradford who was convicted of killing two women by posing as a photographer. Police have distributed photographs of 54 women that were found in his apartment. One of those was found decapitated. Most remain unidentified and police think he may have killed many of them.
My point is that such things do happen and in all of these cases, the "photographer" got the model alone and then killed her. Had the model brought an escort, they likely would still be alive.
Message edited by author 2006-11-03 10:46:32. |
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11/03/2006 01:49:09 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by virtuamike:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I encourage, not require it, it's more for the model's peace of mind really.
Linda Sobek trusted her photographer, Charles Rathbun and look what it got her. |
Given the number of photographers and photo shoots that happen on a daily basis, I consider this an isolated case. People still fly in planes and drive cars. |
Granted, it's one case, but there are investigators who believe that Linda's murder is only one of many that Charles Rathbun is responsible for.
There's also the case of William Richard Bradford who was convicted of killing two women by posing as a photographer. Police have distributed photographs of 54 women that were found in his apartment. One of those was found decapitated. Most remain unidentified and police think he may have killed many of them.
My point is that such things do happen and in all of these cases, the "photographer" got the model alone and then killed her. Had the model brought an escort, they likely would still be alive. |
For every photographer that murders, there are thousands and thousands that don't.
This is bordering on post hoc fallacy. Murderer is a photographer. Murderer murders some people. Therefore photographers are murderers? I just can't see photographers being more dangerous than any other group of people. Again it's a label and a stereotype based off isolated cases. Being creepy has more to do with who you are rather than what you do.
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11/03/2006 03:16:15 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by virtuamike:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by virtuamike:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I encourage, not require it, it's more for the model's peace of mind really.
Linda Sobek trusted her photographer, Charles Rathbun and look what it got her. |
Given the number of photographers and photo shoots that happen on a daily basis, I consider this an isolated case. People still fly in planes and drive cars. |
Granted, it's one case, but there are investigators who believe that Linda's murder is only one of many that Charles Rathbun is responsible for.
There's also the case of William Richard Bradford who was convicted of killing two women by posing as a photographer. Police have distributed photographs of 54 women that were found in his apartment. One of those was found decapitated. Most remain unidentified and police think he may have killed many of them.
My point is that such things do happen and in all of these cases, the "photographer" got the model alone and then killed her. Had the model brought an escort, they likely would still be alive. |
For every photographer that murders, there are thousands and thousands that don't.
This is bordering on post hoc fallacy. Murderer is a photographer. Murderer murders some people. Therefore photographers are murderers? I just can't see photographers being more dangerous than any other group of people. Again it's a label and a stereotype based off isolated cases. Being creepy has more to do with who you are rather than what you do. |
I never said that all photographers are murderers, or even a significant portion of them. My point is that photography has been used to lure models to a grisly end at the hands of killers. From a statistical standpoint, it's highly unlikely that a photographer is a serial killer, but it's not unprecedented either. It's also unlikley that you'll get hit by a car crossing a residential street, but you still look both ways.
I also never said that I would require a model to have an escort, only that I encourage them to do so if it makes them feel better. Obviously, neither of those killers came across as "creepy" enough to keep their models/victims from going off with them to shoot alone. |
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