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11/01/2006 12:58:49 AM · #1
I've just browsed through the thumbnails of of both Exclusive challenges, and some people have obviously submitted their photos to the wrong one - i.e. there are portraits in the Landscape challenge, and landscapes in the Portrait challenge. They must have been confused. Is there any way to put those photos into their correct categories?

p.s. My photo is in the correct category. ;-)

Message edited by author 2006-11-01 00:59:19.
11/01/2006 12:59:59 AM · #2
Probably should submit a ticket for this.
11/01/2006 01:00:46 AM · #3
A good lesson in paying attention to detail, and the sort of lesson that you don't soon forget.

A noble sentiment on your part though.
11/01/2006 01:03:23 AM · #4
This is why we have the Self-DQ. But it would be cool if they could be switched over...
11/01/2006 01:34:20 AM · #5
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

This is why we have the Self-DQ. But it would be cool if they could be switched over...


Brings up an interesting point: we have the self-DQ, you can use it for any reason, but if you use it and then are DQ'd for any reason in the next 25 challenges you enter, you'll be penalized. I can understand why they do that; otherwise people would just more or less automatically self-DQ any image they enter that is tanking.

But here's my question: if you self-DQ because you realize you submitted to the wrong open challenge, and this is clearly obvious to SC, will they still impose that 25-challenge warning? And if so, do we think that's "right"?

R.

Message edited by author 2006-11-01 01:42:58.
11/01/2006 01:35:37 AM · #6
I bet they wouldn't. They are nice guys...(and gals)...
11/01/2006 01:37:14 AM · #7
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


But here's my question: if you self-DQ because you realize you submitted to the wrong open challenge, and this is clearly obvious to SC, will they still impose that 25-challenge warning? And if so, do we think that's "right"?


It's good to keep the ban rule intact.
I think it serves as a reminder for people to submit to the correct challenge carefully.
11/01/2006 01:39:53 AM · #8
We have taken special situations under consideration in the past, and I'm sure we will continue to do so.

In other words, if a situation comes up where someone has 2 DQs in 25 challenges, but one of them is something like this, where they submitted to the wrong challenge, we likely would wave the 1 week submission penalty. It's like in Pirates of the Caribbean, in cases like this, the code is more like a guideline :)

But, at this time, the way to "fix" having submitted to the wrong challenge is to request a self-DQ (via ticket). It's sad, but it's the way it works right now.

NOTE ADDED: I'm joking about the rules being more like a guideline, OK, so don't anybody start accusing SC of this and that and what have you not.

Message edited by author 2006-11-01 01:40:49.
11/01/2006 02:12:57 AM · #9
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

But here's my question: if you self-DQ because you realize you submitted to the wrong open challenge, and this is clearly obvious to SC, will they still impose that 25-challenge warning? And if so, do we think that's "right"?


Yes, we would. Quality-control is part of the challenge.

Moving entries won't happen. For what it's worth, a member of Site Council took a self-DQ for exactly this reason several months ago. I also would not personally vote to consider this an "exceptional circumstance" as far as waiving penalties for multiple DQ's. I typically save that for situations where the photographer is forced to request the self-DQ due to circumstances entirely beyond his control.

~Terry
11/01/2006 02:19:11 AM · #10
Okey-dokey :-) I was just curious...

R.
11/01/2006 02:27:06 AM · #11
I always say a silent "awwww :( " when I see shots obviously placed in the wrong challenge. I am so paranoid about making the same mistake that I check and double-check before I submit, then go back and check at LEAST once more before rollover.

I can get that part right.... it's just taking a good shot that I have a problem with :)
11/01/2006 03:03:16 AM · #12
Originally posted by BeeCee:

I always say a silent "awwww :( " when I see shots obviously placed in the wrong challenge. I am so paranoid about making the same mistake that I check and double-check before I submit, then go back and check at LEAST once more before rollover.

I can get that part right.... it's just taking a good shot that I have a problem with :)


I had to check my entry at least 4 times to make sure it was in thr correct challenge. Also to make sure it was advanced editing, since I used a lot of dodge/burn.
11/01/2006 09:08:35 AM · #13
Oh dear! I have seen 2 sofar and good ones, in the wrong place...I will ignore the DNMC business and vote for them for what they are and the quality of the shot...
11/01/2006 09:18:27 AM · #14
There is no greater feeling of helplessness than to see an entry you're proud of in the wrong challenge one minute after rollover. Unfortunately, the only practical solution is to pay attention when submitting.
11/01/2006 09:18:34 AM · #15
Now I know that SC might waive the one week suspension. :-P My poor scare crow got beat down in "After the game". Word to the wise, don't re-submit when sleepy :-)
11/01/2006 09:22:57 AM · #16
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Now I know that SC might waive the one week suspension. :-P My poor scare crow got beat down in "After the game". Word to the wise, don't re-submit when sleepy :-)


Late to the party, but another reason we can "switch" entries is that it would be unfair to switch now when we haven't in the past and probably won't in the future. Hypothetical situation -- I have a picture that fits both challenges. I enter it into one, and it starts tanking. Send a quick "Ooops I put in the wrong challenge, please switch to the other one."

Please be careful when you submit (coming from another SC member who has also put a picture in the wrong challenge . . .)
11/01/2006 09:38:09 AM · #17
Originally posted by scalvert:

There is no greater feeling of helplessness than to see an entry you're proud of in the wrong challenge one minute after rollover. Unfortunately, the only practical solution is to pay attention when submitting.


I know the feeling very, very well.
11/01/2006 09:44:55 AM · #18
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Now I know that SC might waive the one week suspension. :-P My poor scare crow got beat down in "After the game". Word to the wise, don't re-submit when sleepy :-)


I gave you a 7, dude.

And I'm not going to vote down a photo for being in the wrong challenge this time. If mercy is not possible on the adminstrative level, I will deal it out on the individual level.
11/01/2006 09:50:01 AM · #19
Originally posted by posthumous:


I gave you a 7, dude.

And I'm not going to vote down a photo for being in the wrong challenge this time. If mercy is not possible on the adminstrative level, I will deal it out on the individual level.


Well, thank you :-) It was fun getting 50+ comments all pointing out I made a mistake... LOL
11/01/2006 10:02:37 AM · #20
I just got up and thought I'd check out Taylor's score this morning. She has a boat load of comments already and I was about to get excited until I saw the score... 2.something.... then I realized...

She put her portrait in landscape. Poor kid, she's gonna be crushed when I tell her. (She's at school now). I will suggest she self-DQ, but its completely up to her. She might want to keep it in for the great comments she's getting. Its only her 2nd challenge, so its not like its gonna mess up her average very much.
11/01/2006 10:06:06 AM · #21
I guess admin/sc can't just move them for them? Clear the votes, let them just start today? I don't know why anyone would object (except for those that it has happened to before).

Not my photos, just don't see any reason for them to suffer or DQ.
11/01/2006 10:06:59 AM · #22
I'm one of the idiot, dyslexic, morons. Wrong shot/wrong challenge entry.
Stupid.
My fault, not careful enough. I'll do better next time, right after I shoot myself in the other foot.
11/01/2006 10:11:23 AM · #23
Originally posted by nshapiro:

I don't know why anyone would object


I'll take a stab at it:

Let's say the challenges are "Macro" and "Red". Joe Smartguy takes a close up shot of a rose, submits it to macro and goes to bed. Wakes up, sees his 4.2, and thinks, "ok, time to switch" - notifies the SC that he's made a mistake and gives his lame-o image a shot in red instead.

i guess i'm saying i'd object

:)

Message edited by author 2006-11-01 10:11:45.
11/01/2006 10:12:07 AM · #24
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:


Well, thank you :-) It was fun getting 50+ comments all pointing out I made a mistake... LOL


I thought that it had been entered into the wrong challenge on purpose. :D
11/01/2006 10:36:53 AM · #25
Originally posted by nshapiro:

I guess admin/sc can't just move them for them? Clear the votes, let them just start today? I don't know why anyone would object (except for those that it has happened to before).

Not my photos, just don't see any reason for them to suffer or DQ.


I'm not against moving them, but I feel the votes should stay. If they start today with no votes, they may receive fewer overall votes and their final score may be higher or lower. I'm thinking higher, since many scores seem to go up after the first day or so.
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