USA Photographers - Adobe's America 24/7

Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR

05/13/2003 11:29:43 AM · #26

Originally posted by magnetic9999:

yep, size is whatever rez/size comes out of your camera - big or small.

Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
has anyone seen anywhere where it says what size the photos are suppose to be width x length?

I couldn't find that anywhere all I could find is they prefered RAW data to be the orginal form...

Anyone submit anything yet?

Yomi

Nikon D850

05/13/2003 12:35:39 PM · #27

I submitted two photos that I took yesterday. I submitted them in jpeg, well I took them in jpeg too. None of the "official" software that they say to download worked on my computer, so I just used my Nikon software to input the ITPC data, I just hope I filled it out right.

Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR

05/13/2003 12:53:12 PM · #28

Glad I'm not the only one having problems with the software they said to use, the program that they have for students to use is nothing more than a viewer. Although I did read in the information that they don't want any sharpening or unsharpening done and basically nothing other than color correction.

I just finished printing out the model release form, and I even had trouble printing out the official model release form.

Yomi

Nikon D850

05/13/2003 01:10:15 PM · #29

hahahaha, I'm not laughing at you, but I printed up some of the model releases and they were screwed up. I did sharpen the first picture I sent to them without thinking, it looked fine so I thought what the heck and just sent it anyway.
I think the program for everyone is that viewer. Which is stupid, because my Nikon viewer is just the same if not better because it's made for my files and camera. I think they are just a sponser and it's just trying to get advertised.

05/13/2003 01:10:46 PM · #30

This is from the "Photographer's Toolkit" section of the 24-7 site:

"Digital File Sizes
America 24/7 has chosen one file type that will accomplish all the goals of digitally capturing America and publishing 53 books.

Shoot jpegs on the highest quality your camera allows
If you shoot RAW or TIFF, you must resave a copy as a jpeg to submit to America 24/7.
When saving images in Photoshop as jpegs, use the baseline optimized standard and the highest quality available. Numerically, choose quality standard of 12.
Do not resample images up or down. Please send the original, saved as a jpeg, regardless of what type of camera you have."

So IF you shoot RAW or TIFF you MUST convert it to a jpeg. However, you don't have to shoot RAW or TIFF. :)

Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR

05/13/2003 01:12:06 PM · #31

possibly. it might also be that not everyone has capable software, so they have to provide something.

Originally posted by Jubei Kibagami:

I think they are just a sponser and it's just trying to get advertised.

Yomi

Nikon D850

05/13/2003 01:15:09 PM · #32

I didn't even think of that. That would totally be true as well. I didn't have software when I had the pentax digital camera I had for a week.

matt betea

Nikon D100

05/13/2003 01:24:25 PM · #33

Message edited by author 2003-05-14 17:11:21.

paganini

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

05/13/2003 01:38:49 PM · #34

In photoshop it basically contains caption, etc. You can probably use the supplied software to do it but you still have to fill out the caption. Anyway, most of the images printed will be their contracted professional images as they get reviewed by the editors. I am not sure how the other groups are reviewed, probably by a panel, but with 1 million expected images, that's a lot to look over. I wouldn't be surprised if the "Amateur" selection is nothing more than a ploy for the printing company to get customers.

Originally posted by matt betea:

Or know what the ITPC data is or how/where to put it. I believe it said with their software, when you register it. It will automatically have all the fields filled out for you, so you won't have to do anything. Companies always insist that their, or their sponsor's, software is the only solution. If that was the case everyone using Comcast cable would be using the Comcast internet browser.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/13/2003 03:08:27 PM · #35

In Photoshop you enter the ITPC data with the FileInfo command (where you'd enter copyright data as well).
I think you can access it with IrfanView.
Do they only want uncropped, unadjusted images?

Message edited by author 2003-05-13 15:09:32.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

05/13/2003 03:19:47 PM · #36

Yes.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Do they only want uncropped, unadjusted images?

paganini

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

05/13/2003 05:10:36 PM · #37

When you convert your file from Raw, you'll have to set parameters which adjusts the photos. But I think waht they really want is non-sharpened photos. There is also a comment where if you're selected, you have to submit the original file for them to look at and possibly edit which means they'll work on teh RAW files.

Originally posted by magnetic9999:

Yes.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Do they only want uncropped, unadjusted images?

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

05/13/2003 06:09:21 PM · #38

So, I understand that they just want (basically) a shot right out of the camera? Did they ask this of the "pros" also? The way I see it, if I have photo that may be a touch dark or light or needs some contrast, I am going to adjust it to how I want it. Do you think out of the thousands of photos they are gonna go through for amateurs (if they do at all), just glossing over them and saying, "too dark, contrast is wrong...PASS." I am going prep mine just as I do for here. Just because they have digital professionals to sharpen, etc. for them, doesn't mean they know what YOU meant or felt the photo should portray. What if you wanted a softer focus? Just a little ranting I guess. Sorry (C:

tracy

lionelm

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/13/2003 06:44:05 PM · #39

Actually I thought entering but, if I understood well, we are NOT allowed to do any cropping or leverl adjusment on the photo ?
Is that what you guys are saying ?

Personnally, I think I will use kind of the DPC rules.
If you get picked up and they are not happy after the fact .. you still get picked up ! Better than not being picked up at all if you have the photo of the century but just too dark or bright.
Well .. I guess, except if they consider that as cheating.

As fot student/amater I am going to read the description in details and make my opinion I guess.

Lionel

Message edited by author 2003-05-13 18:47:37.

paganini

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

05/13/2003 06:50:13 PM · #40

They're going to ask you for your original file anyway if you're selected. They will do that for everyone. So if the adjustment causes noises that show up in the print process if it's underexposed, that may be bad.

05/13/2003 07:09:21 PM · #41

Since there seems to be some confusion and alot of questions, here are the guidelines from the 24-7 site, for your reading pleasure:

Digital Shooting Requirements
In order for America 24/7 to successfully reproduce your images, we require the following:

Date and Time. The date and time on your camera must be properly set to your time zone. This will allow America 24/7 a way to search for images when making editing decisions.

File Type. For the very best overall quality, especially for printing in larger format ink jet printers for exhibitions, RAW files will always provide a superior output. We emphasize, you may shoot RAW files with any camera you choose for the best quality. However, we will only accept jpeg copies of your RAW files for submission for the America 24/7 book project. So shoot RAW and submit jpegs.

Color Space. If your camera has a color space setting, we recommend you set it to Adobe RGB 1998. If your camera does not have a color space setting, simply be sure to shoot your photos in RAW format (but remember to submit them to America24/7 as jpegs).

White Balance. Automatic will work most of the time. However, when in doubt, use a preset white balance and a gray card in mixed lighting indoors. When outdoors, use a cloudy setting. Utilizing the proper white balance will give you the optimum results. The best white balance is always tuned specifically to each situation.

Resolution. Shoot all your images at the highest jpeg resolution possible. We will not accept RAW files - you may shoot these, but you will need to convert RAW files to a jpeg before submission. Because of the extremely high volume of digital information we must store and move through networks, we can accept only jpegs.
ISO. Keep it as low as you can at all times. The lower the ISO, the less digital noise and the higher quality images.

Digital File Manipulation
This project is designed to capture a photojournalistic glance of America. To ensure the best printable quality for the 53 books, we ask that you do very little to your digital capture. Toning, cropping, sharpening, etc. will compromise our ability to reproduce the images for printing and will hurt your chances of being published. Therefore, we ask that you adhere to the following criteria.

Only minimal tonal adjustments are allowed
White balance adjustment allowed
No sharpening allowed (sharpening will be done in the post edit process by industry experts versed in digital photography and digital reproduction)
No cropping. Please crop in the camera as you shoot.
Do not increase or decrease contrast or brightness
No image manipulation please!
No excessive computer filters used to make the photograph "artsy" please
No multiple layered image files (we can't accept multiple exposures or composting images)
Never make changes to your original file.
If you must make changes, always work on a copy. And remember:
Keeping the integrity of your original is paramount
Keep your original digital files untouched, and backed up
Work only on a copy, and submit only a copy of your work
When and if your images are selected, we may ask you for the original, untouched file

Message edited by author 2003-05-13 19:23:45.

05/13/2003 07:09:36 PM · #42

now, i went and hit the street today at my lunch and took a bunch of pics. i think some are pretty cool but i thought i would ask you all to help me pick which ones you think are submittable. im going to try to do this most of the days this week

the ones from today are HERE ..

I appreciate your help .. Your input is valuable to me .. Thanks,
Kollin

Message edited by author 2003-05-13 19:18:22.

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM III

05/13/2003 07:10:50 PM · #43

Originally posted by lionelm:

As fot student/amater I am going to read the description in details and make my opinion I guess.

Lionel

In the student discription you will see it says you can be a student or aspiring to be a professional photographer.

shutterfly

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

05/13/2003 07:39:57 PM · #44

Originally posted by magnetic9999:

Great job Mag, i especially like this one

scab-lab

Canon EOS-D60

05/13/2003 07:41:10 PM · #45

Originally posted by magnetic9999:

I like the steel worker shot best. :)

joanns

Fujifilm FinePix S5 Pro

05/13/2003 07:57:42 PM · #46

Is anybody else taking the assignments literally? For instance, today we were to photograph someone we love. I read it both ways, as a suggestion and also as the assignment. I read it over several times and still find it ambiguous.

joanns

Fujifilm FinePix S5 Pro

05/13/2003 08:00:28 PM · #47

Nevermind, I just read it again, 10th time the charm (enough time for my dark roots to show under my blond head) General suggestions, just suggestions, only suggestions to get the creative juices flowing. Geez!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/13/2003 08:02:46 PM · #48

Originally posted by joanns:

Just to be sure, and maybe as an exercise, I'm going to try and submit one from the suggested topics for the day described...seems to me DPC has been the perfect training for that! But in the Student classification we can submit an average of 7/day, so I'm also going to include anything else that's good (if anything).

Message edited by author 2003-05-13 20:03:51.

joanns

Fujifilm FinePix S5 Pro

05/13/2003 08:07:38 PM · #49

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by joanns:
Is anybody else taking the assignments literally? For instance, today we were to photograph someone we love. I read it both ways, as a suggestion and also as the assignment. I read it over several times and still find it ambiguous.

Just to be sure, and maybe as an exercise, I'm going to try and submit one from the suggested topics for the day described...seems to me DPC has been the perfect training for that! But in the Student classification we can submit an average of 7/day, so I'm also going to include anything else that's good (if anything).

Our DPC challenges do train us to adhere to the rules. You can submit 7 a day? That's wonderful! I think as an amateur, it's only 7 total. I'll have to go and read the rules again.